Connor as in Dan Connor? He had a great PSU career and a solid one in NFL.Not unrelated but I still don’t understand why coaches are shocked when a player can’t keep on weight. Maybe don’t offer a lanky 235 lb DE and hope he can add 20 lbs? Connor couldn’t keep weight on, Maybin struggled, Simmons struggled, Toney struggled, etc. Tough break for the kid but most shocking is the staff apathy (removing him from the DL chat is low) if true. Bad look for CJF - he can’t seem to get out of his own way.
Connor as in Dan Connor? He had a great PSU career and a solid one in NFL.
Even if the player stops coming to practice? Or to the weight room? Or to class? The four years is predicated on continued success or progress or effort in some form. It’s not as ironclad as you claim.Athletic scholarships are for four years whether you play or not.
Still struggled to add weight. Was lucky to be 220 dripping wet.
Formulating an opinion based on assumptions and hate may not be the best recipe for a good discussion.Still struggled to add weight. Was lucky to be 220 dripping wet.
Formulating an opinion based on assumptions and hate may not be the best recipe for a good discussion.
Even if the player stops coming to practice? Or to the weight room? Or to class? The four years is predicated on continued success or progress or effort in some form. It’s not as ironclad as you claim.
The post was intended for the Mostella thread, just entered in that particular spot. But, the point is you share Mostella Twitter posts as if they are the absolute truth. And your obvious hate of Franklin, which you affirmed, obviously leads to your ill-tempered opinion of this particular situation. You have no facts, just supposition and yet you make these absurd declarations.What? Connor did struggle to keep his weight up. He still had an awesome career; his football prowess more than made up for his lack of size. Unfortunately, being light at DE isn't as forgiving.
The post was intended for the Mostella thread, just entered in that particular spot. But, the point is you share Mostella Twitter posts as if they are the absolute truth. And your obvious hate of Franklin, which you affirmed, obviously leads to your ill-tempered opinion of this particular situation. You have no facts, just supposition and yet you make these absurd declarations.
This kid wrote that he needed to get his story out there in case something happens to him. That is troubling - obviously.
Curious to who you would want to replace him!I don't hate Franklin; just think he's an average, overpaid coach and would like to see him move on.
My only opinion of this is based on BM's comments and if they are *true*. My guess is he's taking some liberty with the actual events, but either way, he's publicly trashing his coach and program while *obviously* experiencing a mental health crisis. Someone at Penn State dropped the ball with him and his situation, and it keeps getting worse, not better for him. It's a bad look for Penn State and they would probably do well to make some kind of statement. This kid wrote that he needed to get his story out there in case something happens to him. That is troubling - obviously. CJF's solution is to get him to move on from football. That might be best, but doesn't seem to be working.
True…but what is your point? Connor was a great football player.Still struggled to add weight. Was lucky to be 220 dripping wet.
Seriously, you don't know that anyone at PSU actually "dropped the ball". All situations are not covered by university staff. Some situations do not have a quick solution. And some people that even desperately need help refuse it.I don't hate Franklin; just think he's an average, overpaid coach and would like to see him move on.
My only opinion of this is based on BM's comments and if they are *true*. My guess is he's taking some liberty with the actual events, but either way, he's publicly trashing his coach and program while *obviously* experiencing a mental health crisis. Someone at Penn State dropped the ball with him and his situation, and it keeps getting worse, not better for him. It's a bad look for Penn State and they would probably do well to make some kind of statement. This kid wrote that he needed to get his story out there in case something happens to him. That is troubling - obviously. CJF's solution is to get him to move on from football. That might be best, but doesn't seem to be working.
True…but what is your point? Connor was a great football player.
Seriously, you don't know that anyone at PSU actually "dropped the ball". All situations are not covered by university staff. Some situations do not have a quick solutions. And some people that even desperately need help refuse it.
I can't see this situation, with the "information" available, being a candidate for the blame game unless there is much more to it that hasn't been revealed. And even then, as has already been written above many times, there are a number of sides to every story.
Sh*t is getting very weird and sad for Bryce. Hope he gets the help he needs.
Oh, I'll bet it would be another story in the strength and conditioning staff (performance enhancement) could speak out. James Franklin doesn't just pull numbers (weight) out of his rectum. Nor would the PSU FB Staff be looking for a player to just put on "weight." It's about gaining muscle mass and getting to a body composition goal......nutrition is all part of the plan as well. My guess is this this young man stopped adhering to his workout/nutrition schedule at some point (perhaps it coincided with his realization that he wasn't going to see the field. This can cause emotional distress, as dreams die hard.Agreed. Just that it can be hard to gain weight - even for stars.
Or trying to motivate him.Athletic scholarships are for four years whether you play or not. CJF is very good at saying nothing and I expect he’ll do the same here. No player has to accept a medical redshirt or transfer. It’s not part of the deal. Which is why it seems like they were making his life tough so he’d transfer.
Or trying to motivate him.
Seems to have pushed him into a mental health crisis resulting in hospitalization.....
His is the only 'says' out there right now; I see Onward State has picked up the story. Franklin has every opportunity to set the record straight. Of course, doing so might further stress the situation, so doubt we'll hear anything.He says.
It’s possible that Franklin has no right at all to talk publicly about a student’s hospitalization for mental health issues. In academe there are very clear lines you do not cross when it comes to student privacy. I myself (professor) would not be allowed to say anything about such a case.His is the only 'says' out there right now; I see Onward State has picked up the story. Franklin has every opportunity to set the record straight. Of course, doing so might further stress the situation, so doubt we'll hear anything.
It’s possible that Franklin has no right at all to talk publicly about a student’s hospitalization for mental health issues. In academe there are very clear lines you do not cross when it comes to student privacy. I myself (professor) would not be allowed to say anything about such a case.
Why would anyone here believe Franklin would tell the world about the details of any goals he has set for individual players, especially when those goals are/were not met? Let alone the details of players not meeting them big time in the middle of a player medical and mental health issue...... He doesn't even talk about sprained ankles for players that are actually playing, in the middle of a season.....True, but he should be able to comment on his status as a member of the team, whether he was given an ultimatum to gain weight or leave, whether it is true he was dropped from the DL group chat, etc.
Why would anyone here believe Franklin would tell the world about any goals he has set for individual players, especially when those goals are/were not met? Let alone the details of players not meeting them big time in the middle of a player medical and mental health issue...... He doesn't even talk about sprained ankles for players that are actually playing.
Yes different. And all the more personal and unlikely that Franklin would release anything to the public.He’s been publicly accused on social media by a player, who has apparently been hospitalized and under care for thoughts of self harm. A bit different than your average weekly roster update.
Yes different. And all the more personal and unlikely that Franklin would release anything to the public.
For days now, without any conclusive facts or supportive deposition, you have been regurgitating Mostella’s narrative. Why?, what’s your point? you make accusations and insinuate his statements are irrefutable. I’m sure everyone involved is concerned with his well-being, but yet you seem to suggest otherwise. Do you have a motive for your discourse? If so, explain please.Just answering your question.
For days now, without any conclusive facts or supportive deposition, you have been regurgitating Mostella’s narrative. Why?, what’s your point? you make accusations and insinuate his statements are irrefutable. I’m sure everyone involved is concerned with his well-being, but yet you seem to suggest otherwise. Do you have a motive for your discourse? If so, explain please.
Glad that you admit to be one who throws crap at the wall and hope some of it sticks and that getting rid of JF is your main motivation. Pathetic and feeble as it may be.Never said they were irrefutable - just that his is the only version out there. And only ‘suggesting otherwise’ if Mostella’s comments are true. Why are you and others so convinced he’s a liar? Franklin isn’t squeaky clean - by a long shot - and that was even before this incident.
And yeah - I’m all for anything that will expedite Franklin’s departure from Happy Valley. Hoping this helps.
Glad that you admit to be one who throws crap at the wall and hope some of it sticks and that getting rid of JF is your main motivation. Pathetic and feeble as it may be.
You're sure? From throwing **** and hoping it sticks. Hardly. Maybe in your agenda over ridden mind you are, and if you are you're living in fairy land. Most here seem to be pretty much ignoring the whole issue, sanely waiting for further information (i.e. details that can be verified) before rushing to judgment as you have in your own anti-Franklin world. Crying here about what you don't know about Franklin in no way supports the well being of any Penn State football player. Most here more than likely believe there's a much much better chance that you are lying than Franklin lying. Cheers.Not my main motivation - just a bonus. Interested in and supporting the well being of a Penn State football player is my main motivation. I’m sure most here think he’s lying - like you do.