Cal its unreal

wfm101981

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He's never been a good coach. He has done less with more .. more than anyone I seen. Look how many players are in the nba. Imagine giving a coach like pope those players he would have had 3 4 titles. He literally thinks just throw the talent out there and we will win. He did it one year with a.d. it's unreal
 

Louis_Skunt

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Cal did great. Taking a bunch of 17-18 future nba stars doesn’t mean automatic college wins.

If recruiting was that important wouldn’t Duke and UK have titles every year?

Cal was great. One bounce of the ball and he could easily have 3 titles at UK.
 

sosoblue

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I am over it. Been. But it's true. I'm putting a fan duel team in and like 20 former kentucky players are going for big bucks to pick and its unreal he had all thes3 players with only 1 title.

Plus our amazing fanbase unlike anything in college basketball.
 
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wfm101981

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I'm not a total anti cal guy. But facts are facts. He's had more nba players by far than any other team yet needed a.d. to carry him to a title. He's not a good basketball coach. He's a good recruiter. Plain n simple
Watching arkanasas.. does anyone think even thought cut it to 13 that they will actually have a chance?
 
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wfm101981

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He was a great coach for a long time. But the game changed and adapts and he just hasn’t. He’s still trying to grind out every game and pound the ball inside like it’s 10-15 years ago. He just wants to keep every game close and hope his talent can make plays at the end.
Imagine he actually had an x and o mind with all that talent. 3 4 titles easy.
 
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Lets be honest tho. College basketball coaches need to do two things...........1) Recruit enough talent and 2) coach that talent.

You need BOTH.

Regardless of how his era ended here at UK, Cal did that for a large majority of his coaching career. He was always an excellent recruiter and a so so coach. But it did work for the most part.
 

Montana81

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I just can’t look at what he did at Umass and say he was never a great coach. He had two guys there and a bunch of nobodies. He got Camby and I think maybe Donta Bright was the other highly rated guy. He took arguably the greatest team in the modern era to the wire with a starting backcourt of Carmelo Traviosa and Edgar Padilla.

At one point he was a great coach.


I think he’s still a decent coach. Much like tubby, he just wasn’t good enough to stay here anymore. It’s so frustrating because the way he started here I thought we were going to be dominant for a long time.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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SMH. Time to get over it dude
"No."

 

RunninRichie

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I just can’t look at what he did at Umass and say he was never a great coach. He had two guys there and a bunch of nobodies. He got Camby and I think maybe Donta Bright was the other highly rated guy. He took arguably the greatest team in the modern era to the wire with a starting backcourt of Carmelo Traviosa and Edgar Padilla.

At one point he was a great coach.


I think he’s still a decent coach. Much like tubby, he just wasn’t good enough to stay here anymore. It’s so frustrating because the way he started here I thought we were going to be dominant for a long time.
John Robic was the ghost writer for Cal's greatest albums.
 

Montana81

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John Robic was the ghost writer for Cal's greatest albums.


Maybe you’re right. A lot of people have said that for years now and I didn’t buy it because I couldn’t believe a single assistant could have that big of an impact on the in game coaching. But now i’m starting to wonder. Because he really hasn’t been the same since he lost Robic.
 

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I believe this could be his last season. Even the team he has know was going to be the team at UK.
 

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He's never been a good coach. He has done less with more .. more than anyone I seen. Look how many players are in the nba. Imagine giving a coach like pope those players he would have had 3 4 titles. He literally thinks just throw the talent out there and we will win. He did it one year with a.d. it's unreal
Are you alright?
 

Trinity45

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He's never been a good coach. He has done less with more .. more than anyone I seen. Look how many players are in the nba. Imagine giving a coach like pope those players he would have had 3 4 titles. He literally thinks just throw the talent out there and we will win. He did it one year with a.d. it's unreal
Just glad he is gone, was so tired of watching the guards dribble the leather off the ball, tired of watching other teams score 3 or 4 times a game on their out of bounds play while his team struggles to get the ball in bound. Cal is a lazy coach who relies on the players to make plays.
 

Montana81

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Never really got the "he should win X number of titles"

1) This is a one and done tournament. The best team is typically given odds in the 30%.

2) What years were we even considered the best team? 2012 when we won and 2015. That's it.

I always thought 1 was the likely outcome in that era.

I’d say we were only the best team those 2 seasons. But I think we were the best team left standing at some point late in the tourney a few other times. I think we were the best left in 2010 by the E8 and immediately choked. 2014 and lost to Uconn in the finals. 2017 and lost to UNC but that’s not on Cal.

Man…if we just get by west virginia in 2010 I think we cruise to that title. It’s not that Duke was bad but we were the worst possible matchup for them.
 

HagginHall1999

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He's never been a good coach. He has done less with more .. more than anyone I seen. Look how many players are in the nba. Imagine giving a coach like pope those players he would have had 3 4 titles. He literally thinks just throw the talent out there and we will win. He did it one year with a.d. it's unreal

I do not agree that he was never a good coach. That is silly talk.

1. Part of coaching is recruiting. He is probably the 1/2 best recruiter of all time.

2. He used to be a really good coach. He went toe to toe with several of Pitinos teams in the '90's and beat them....he didn't have ridiculous talent then.

3. He's taken 3 different schools to a FF

4. Just because you can recruit great players, it doesn't mean it is easy to make them play as a team.

Cal was never great at the end of the game; I'll agree there. He also became far too stubborn and showed no willingness to change. He lost the fast ball he had.

Just an objective take.
 
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I do not agree that he was never a good coach. That is silly talk.

1. Part of coaching is recruiting. He is probably the 1/2 best recruiter of all time.

2. He used to be a really good coach. He went toe to toe with several of Pitinos teams in the '90's and eat them....he didn't have ridiculous talent then.

3. He's taken 3 different schools to a FF

4. Just because you can recruit great players, it doesn't mean it is easy to make them play as a team.

Cal was never great at the end of the game; I'll agree there. He also became far too stubborn and showed no willingness to change. He lost the fast all he had.

Just an objective take.
Good post.