14 penalties for 98 yards . . . negative rushing yardage . . . can't tackle, etc. And Shula should be fired today.
Carolina football: undisciplined, unprepared and improperly coached
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We caught lightning in a bottle w Rocket, Kyle Kennard, Demetrius Knight, and overperformed for 6 games. We got Rattler bc of Beamers time at OU, and Rattler is showing in the NFL how great he actually was.
We are now defaulting to the standard of the program which is undisciplined, inconsistent and sloppy.
We are now defaulting to the standard of the program which is undisciplined, inconsistent and sloppy.
OL coach too should be gone. Numerous false start penalties, too many sacks, can't block
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No question we are a total mess. The only faint glimmer of a bright spot we’ve had this season is Swain.
Everything that happened last year should be completely disregarded. It was obviously a fluke that bore no fruit for the long-term.
The entire program is in complete shambles right now.
Everything that happened last year should be completely disregarded. It was obviously a fluke that bore no fruit for the long-term.
The entire program is in complete shambles right now.
Hey, look at it this way. We might get another chance to hire Billy Napier.
We got Rattler because that slow as molasses OU TE and his father talked him into it.
Lol. Let's hire another UF reject. Of course we need former players' approval before we make football coaching hires so it'll all depend on what they say.
So King - Based on this, how do you believe we were in the game against a high-quality SEC team across the country that almost never loses at home deep into the 4th?
Mainly because Mizzu gave us the benefit of potentially having a running threat which allowed us to throw a couple of TD passes but totally abandoned that thought in the 4th quarter and locked us down offensively. from throwing the ball. Every other team will do the same right from the beginning of the game from here on out. I will say that Sellers missed one key wide-open pass over the middle in the 4th qtr which could have given us a chance to pull out the victory.
Missed Bennett early in the game. Wide open by a mile. Easy td. Sellers had some very nice passes as well.
Agree. Everyone is all over Shula, but I thought he did a pretty good job getting receivers in place to make plays last night even though everyone in the building knew we had to throw.
Sellers did miss a few but he was under heat all night. He finished with 300 yards and no INTs. That's pretty darn good considering the situation at hand.
...Because Sellers and the receivers at least had a pulse. I think we have at least 3-4 receivers that can get open. Problem is whether the OL will give the QB time. Our OL is a mess right now. None of them are performing and the coaches are just trying people out to find anyone that wants to play. Players seem confused and not on the same page. This is usually a sign that a team needs to simplify the game plan. No excuse for the Center, the guy with the ball, false starting. The problem with the defense is that everyone wants a blow-up tackle instead of making a solid form tackle. There is nothing wrong with Clayton White's scheme. Defenders are in position to make plays. They just aren't making them, and it's from the top down. Dylan Stewart made one of the most pathetic efforts I have ever seen trying to tackle Hardy on his Second Half TD. It was like he was tired of them running to his side.
100%. Unfortunately, the only time we every seem to have a decent OL is when it's stacked with seniors like Vandy had last week.
More often that not, we've got two or three solid players while breaking in the others.
Under those circumstances, the line craters where there is inexperience and everyone ultimately looks bad as a result.
With that said, I"m not sure how much worse the OL is this year than last.
The synergistic play between Sellers and Sanders was able to provide some cover for those deficiencies.
I will also say that I have not totally given up on this team. With the exception of the OL, you can see that there is talent on this roster to win. We just have to get organized. The whole operation has seemed frantic even in the VT win. It's like the team spent the summer camp working on the first 10 play script to start the season and nothing on understanding their schemes. This has been the problem with Beamer since he has been here. Doesn't have his teams ready to play at the beginning of the year. All you can do now is get the Kentucky game and regroup in the bye week.
It's worse because we can't find a Center. At least Vershon Lee could get the ball snapped and not have pressure in the QB's face immediately. People talking about Sellers IQ, but on that goal line play he had pressure right up the gut and off the right edge. Sellers spun to escape and hopefully get rid of the ball. Unfortunately, he spun right into a defender. On of the other sacks where Sellers lost like 20 yds was on him. Sometimes you have to eat it instead of trying to make a play.
Bruh.
Thought went through my head this morning that they’ll try to do that. He may not make it through this season. He’ll fill the time next season somewhere as a coordinator or analyst. After a 2-10 2026 for the Gamecocks the AD will “thank Shane Beamer for his contributions to the program and wish he and his family the best in their future endeavors but it’s time to go in a different direction.” And then they hire Billy Napier.
Illusory. We were never in danger of winning that game. The time on the clock that it took for us to run about three chunk plays - probably a total of a minute at most - comprised the only portion of the game in which we outplayed them. Even while we held the lead in the second half, they were outplaying us. Since the outcome was inevitable, there was no such thing as us being "in" the game.The score up until about 3:00 left in the game?
And some level it's hard to determine if it's a talent deficiency with so many procedural penalties. The number of stupid missed blocks you also wonder if it's a scheme issue. Althoughin reality it could be all three.
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He has not been a proficient passer this season. A few beautiful passes interspersed in a largely poor performance
But we were winning for most of the game? At half, after 3 quarters, etc?
We definitely have a very unorthodox style of play
...but scoreboard is end gameIf you watched most of the games under Shane Beamer, you would never believe he has more wins than any other coach in history over similar time a frame -- but do we care how sausage is made?
Would you ever believe that Beamer had more wins than Missouri's Drinkwitz after 4 seasons?
It defies logic but that's the situation.
I'm only concerned with, "What have you done for me lately?" This program has some glaring deficiencies. I didn't say "this team..." because not all the deficiencies are wearing pads. However, a few are.But we were winning for most of the game? At half, after 3 quarters, etc?
We definitely have a very unorthodox style of play
If you watched most of the games under Shane Beamer, you would never believe he has more wins than any other coach in history over similar time a frame -- but do we care how sausage is made?
Would you ever believe that Beamer had more wins than Missouri's Drinkwitz after 4 seasons?
It defies logic but that's the situation.
So you were happy last season because we're only a few games removed and obviously we can't flip coaches like hotcakes?
We always have some level of glaring defeciencies.
How many times did you hear Spurrier say "Well, it wasn't pretty but..." and toss his visor in anger at OL play?
We were just as dysfuncational at times back then.
The 11-2 run was about the recruiting push and that takes big dollars to accomplish now.
But some non-marquee programs are doing better in the current environment than we are. We just played two of them.
I wasn't happy last season because of how it ended - with indications of the counterproductive offensive philosophy regarding the quarterback that has carried over to this season. And although OL play was substandard at times, it was not as abysmal as we are seeing now, nor do we have a Rocket to mitigate their ineptitude.
It's downright dangerous to be playing behind the people we have out there blocking this season, especially on the right side. 72 and 74 are awful. And since we're talking about last year, neither was the tackling this close to middle-school caliber.
What are we even talking about anyway? As with the debacle last week, this one is over and irremediable. We'd better find a way to beat the next opponent, which might be our only realistic shot at an SEC win.
We beat them both last year and we had beat Vandy 17 years straight?
Sellers definitely is lacking the wingman this year.
It's not nearly as fun watching him as mostly a pure passer but his pass game is definitely elevating.
Yep - The OL is pretty brutal at the moment.
I'm always just curious to get your take becuase you seem to have some pretty strong (jaded?) reactions to a staff that up until this point -- has done it as well as any of them.
We have pretty consistently looked poorly coached under Beamer. That is more the norm.
The farther we venture into the new frontier, the more the paradigm changes and what was done yesterday becomes less relevant. What matters now is who is adapting better.
His pass game is mediocre at best. He throws a nice deep ball, which inflates the ypg, but his intermediate throws are bad. Receivers are often having to jump to catch a 10 yd pass. When it mattered and we needed that third down conversion, he missed a wide open player with another overthrow.
I think Vandy is peaking like they do once in a blue moon thanks to the QB.
Missouri's NIL Program is dynamite and I've posted this for you in the past.
He definitely can overshoot at time with pressure swarming around him. I've been impressed at the lack of mistakes/INTs. It's not like we have a high-end receiving core at the moment.
Yep. Missosouri was gifted 62 million in February 2024; 50 for stadium renovations (which could be seen saturday night) and 10 for NIL. Single gift; doesn't include everything else.
Before I stopped responding to the trolls on the other board, they used to offer up a 60 million donation to the school as evidence that Missouri's NIL was so much more than ours. They just glossed over that the 60 million was to the athletic department, and not used on NIL deals.
The truth is, there is no concrete info on NIL from school to school, so any poster can make a good story for any position.
Edit: I would think a better way to go about it is to look at recruiting rankings and transfer portal rankings.