CFB Conference Championships In-week Thread
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I’ll be rooting hard for Georgia. Correction: I’ll be rooting hard against Alabama.
For PSU purposes, it would be great if there are no upsets this weekend.
Just for the sake of argument, how do you figure? I suppose it would be somewhat noteworthy to say that both PSU’s losses came at the hands of teams who made the CFP.
Because if there is an upset, then it potentially pushes PSU out of a NY6 Bowl. The ones that are of concern are
If Louisville upsets F$U, then neither make the CFP (The Ville wasn't anyway). That takes up a NY6 spot.
If Iowa upsets Michigan, then Michigan drops out of CFP and that means OSU and Michigan are in NY6 and PSU drops out. I don't see OSU going back in if Michigan loses. (That also depends significantly on what happens with other bowls).
Washington - Oregon has no factor on PSU.
Bama-UGA has no factor on PSU.
Not sure about Texas and OK State.
So, perhaps I should have said that if the ACC and/or Big Ten CCG are upsets, it could push PSU out of NY6.
Nahhhh as much as it pains me to say this I want Iowa to beat Michigan. I would laugh and laugh.
This. And I think it will happen too. It's hard for an undefeated team to look unimpressive for an entire season (but FSU managed to do just that), and now they aren't playing a mediocre rival and they still won't have their QB.
If Iowa beating Michigan knocks us out of the Peach Bowl against Tulane...I'm ok with that.
Although I'm sure the PSU administration and financials wouldn't like it as much.
Last I saw, it was Mizzou and Tulane in the Cotton. PSU with the loser of the PAC 12 in the Fiesta. But nothing is certain right now.If Iowa beating Michigan knocks us out of the Peach Bowl against Tulane...I'm ok with that.
Although I'm sure the PSU administration and financials wouldn't like it as much.
If there are no Big Ten teams in the CFP, then PSU drops out, in my opinion.
I would rather Michigan lose on the big stage in the CFP than the medium stage at Indy....so I am OK with them throttling Iowa.
If Iowa beating Michigan knocks us out of the Peach Bowl against Tulane...I'm ok with that.
Although I'm sure the PSU administration and financials wouldn't like it as much.
We split revenue, so doesn't matter which bowl we go to in terms of payout, right?
In a 10-7 barn burner? Yes, I'd laugh too! My loathing of Iowa is a little less than my loathing of the weaselrines.
I'm thinking it's gonna be something like 31-3 or 31-6, weasels.
To Iowa's credit, fwiw, they are a very bad ref call from being 11-1. A most improbable record given their lack of offense, but reminiscent of some seasons in the 50s and early 60s when even eventual National Champs sometimes won a number of their games by scores like 14-7, 10-7, 7-0, etc. How they are winning in today's game of prolific offenses is a condemnation of the B1G West and some East really bad offenses.
I will sacrifice PSU getting bumped to the Citrus Bowl if it means Michigan gets whacked in Indy on Sat nite.
I'm rooting for chaos. So, the more upsets the better. Would love to have Bama, Texas, Georgia, Michigan, Washington, etc. all with one loss. Then have FSU win out. Then we'll see the eye test in full force and true biases revealed. I find it interesting that OSU is immediately out of any CFP conversation given their ranking all year and close loss to Michigan. Bama squeaked by Auburn as well, but if they beat Georgia they're probably in with Georgia. Then you have two spots for a bunch of teams.....
As it stands, one of those two teams go to the Orange Bowl regardless of the outcome. If FSU loses, it's knocked out of the playoff and probably gets at at-large spot to a NY6 game. That elevates a currently projected at-large team into the playoff so it's a wash as far as PSU getting a NY6 slot. Might impact which slot, though.
A Michigan loss is a similar case unless it propels Iowa above PSU in the rankings.
If Iowa beating Michigan knocks us out of the Peach Bowl against Tulane...I'm ok with that.
Although I'm sure the PSU administration and financials wouldn't like it as much.
What Midnighter says regarding the financial impact of bowl slots is largely true. Payouts are split evenly among conference members.
There is, however, a tangential financial consideration that is often not trivial. Big Ten grants each of its bowl participants a travel allowance. Varies with the bowl. Safe rule of thumb is that the higher the bowl payout, the higher the travel allowance (CFP/NY6 participation kind of muddies that a bit). So if PSU is knocked out of a NY6 slot, it can expect a smaller travel allowance. Offsetting that is that the entourage the school takes to a lesser bowl is typically smaller. Fewer bloodsuckers, less expense. bbrown is correct, though, in that the administration won't like it as much. Reduced opportunities for Neels & Co to hold court and it less lavish surroundings.
Net/net, regardless of the bowl and amount of travel allowance, the school (and this is not limited to PSU) generally spends more than its allowance. The guys that make out are the ones staying home. Don't believe me? Ask Heather Lyke.
I think there is some confusion in this thread.
ACC CCG has no bearing on PSU making a NY6 bowl, just possibly which one. Orange Bowl is tied in with ACC so they are almost guaranteed Louisville win or lose. Just a matter of FSU in playoff as winner or NY6 as loser.
An Iowa win likely knocks PSU out as Iowa becomes an automatic taking up a spot.
Texas game could be important if Texas were to stay above PSU with a loss. Okie State would get the auto Big 12 bid and nobody is currently including them in a NY6 projection/count.
ACC CCG has no bearing on PSU making a NY6 bowl, just possibly which one. Orange Bowl is tied in with ACC so they are almost guaranteed Louisville win or lose. Just a matter of FSU in playoff as winner or NY6 as loser.
An Iowa win likely knocks PSU out as Iowa becomes an automatic taking up a spot.
Texas game could be important if Texas were to stay above PSU with a loss. Okie State would get the auto Big 12 bid and nobody is currently including them in a NY6 projection/count.
I am in the minority here. I would rather see Jim Harbaugh get shagged and dragged around the football field like a wet cat in a CFP game against Saban or Georgia where so many eyes will be watching the t.v. than in the BIg 10 Championship which won't have the same drawing power. The announcers will pile on Harbaugh as saying, "well, looks like he's not ready for the big boys yet"... and other good retorts.
I was incorrect - I thought the 2nd place ACC team would have to have a certain ranking to get that auto-bid to Miami. I guess LVille would be in w/ a loss (which is criminal, imo).
Not automatic. Iowa would have to jump PSU in the rankings. How likely? Anyone's guess.
See my other post - I guess it frees people up to root for LVille. Tosu fans certainly will be.
I dunno. I think that PSU dropping to a lesser bowl might teach some people humility, though I doubt it.
You are ignoring the little part about being B1G champ, so yes, Iowa would automatically be included as the B1G rep.
You know we're talking about PSU, right. That money is spent already.
I think the B1G splits post-bowl net revenue (gross revenue less travel expenses) which isn't much because most teams bloat their expense budgets. @GrimReaper knows this stuff.
Seriously, what are you trying to say, Iowa isn’t Big Ten champ if they win, or Iowa doesn’t get auto NY6 bowl if they are Big Ten champs?
Where did a playoff spot get mentioned? A winning Iowa getting a guaranteed NY6 bowl isn’t a playoff spot.
I believe that Big 10, Article 375, section 7.9, indicates that if Iowa somehow beats Meatchicken in the Big 10 champ game we would automatically be named Big 10 champs by virtue of our 31-0 shutout and stomping of the Hawkeyes, thus vaulting us into the Final 4!
