CFP debacle...
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Even if Alabama loses...they are still in. Period.
The rest of the teams though that would certainly throw a massive monkey wrench into things if they all dropped a game.
If Washington loses, then Colorado very much has a chance to sneak in.
If Penn State beats Wisconsin, then you could very possibly get Ohio State AND Penn State in the playoff??
I think best case for OU is Clemson drops it's final game with VTech. The ACC really no viable team outside of Clemson that would get in. ACC would lose out, and the Big XII's OU would maybe slide in.
The rest of the teams though that would certainly throw a massive monkey wrench into things if they all dropped a game.
If Washington loses, then Colorado very much has a chance to sneak in.
If Penn State beats Wisconsin, then you could very possibly get Ohio State AND Penn State in the playoff??
I think best case for OU is Clemson drops it's final game with VTech. The ACC really no viable team outside of Clemson that would get in. ACC would lose out, and the Big XII's OU would maybe slide in.
Unfortunately even if chaos happens with both Clemson and Washington loses the committee has pretty much spoken how they feel about the B12. If they both lose Colorado might sneak in but at this point the committee is glued to the B10s *** and would likely wet their pants at the thought of having Alabama, TOSU , Michigan and the B10CG winner.
Colorado would only get in if the committee knew the reprocussions that might erupt from them leaving out 3 P5 conf champions for 3 B10 teams.
Alverez being the elephant in the room though cream his pants along with Delaney if it happened.
Good cam come from it because maybe the ACC, B12 and P12 would come together and get this committee BS eliminated
I know some are speculating 3 B1G teams getting in, but I do NOT see it happening. Do people really believe that?? It's literally nothing but cannon fodder to feed the media ratings this time of year. And the only way I can see 2 B1G teams getting in, is if Penn State wins, then Clemson loses and opens a spot for either a 2nd B1G team or a Big XII team. If Colorado beats Washington, then I think they have every bit a right to claim a playoff spot as OU.
And call the committee "BS", but literally everyone bitched prior to the BCS. Then everyone bitched about the BCS. Now people are bitching about the committee picking a 4 team playoff. Even if it were opened up to 8 teams, or even 16 teams...Guess what?? People are still going to *****!!!! I mean you call the committee BS, but would you seriously want their job of trying to pick 4 teams out of all this mess?? It's easy to judge from the outside looking in when you aren't in the chair having to make those decisions.
And cry about "the committee has pretty much spoken how they feel about the B12". Well, in the end if OU takes care of Houston, then it's out of the committees hands right? Why leave your destiny up to others to decide if you're worthy or not. Take care of business on the field and control your own damn destiny.
Look I am well aware of the fact that OU should have taken care of business but if you like a committee of 12 or 13 people selecting teams based on nothing more than opinions then more power to you. For the record I never said OU was playoff worthy as you seem to think I was alluding to.
This committee you seem to love needs hard fast rules to go by in its selection process. Number 1 if you cant win your conference then you should not be eligible for the playoffs under the current format. Now if you want to go to 8 then its a clear cut 5-P5 conf champs plus 1 NP5 rep and 2 at large. That means you take out the subjectivity for at least 6 teams.
For some reason your reply strikes me as someone who just wants to argue but that isnt going to happen. Like many on here Ive been around for over 50 plus years following OU football and I didnt like the BCS anymore than I like this committee. However at least the BCS wasnt limited to 13 people in a room who hides behind closed doors in secret.
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I don't think OU has a defense to keep up with any of the top teams right now. We're better served going to a good bowl game and getting a W and take another shot next year with some of the incoming talent.
I've never understood the fear of faileure mentality. We would be much better off getting to the playoff and losing than winning the Sugar Bowl. The current recruiting momentum proves that.
I don't understand why so many people say OU doesn't deserve a shot. They lost to Houston on the road, the same Houston team that made #5 Louisville look like a JV team. OU lost to Ohio State, the #2 team in the nation. If OU beats OSU Saturday, with all of the injuries they have faced all season, they deserve the same chance as a Clemson who lost to Pitt or Washington who lost to USC or Penn State who lost to Pitt or Colorado who lost to USC. See the pattern? We don't have a bad loss, not after watching #5 Louisville getting creamed by Houston.
Yes. Some idiots believe that. Some people thought Killary would win as well... be prepared for pacifier sucking grown ups to protest and riot in Michigan...
Seriously man you are one of those people who will complain about the "system", regardless of what the system is. Like I said, would you want the job of being on the committee and having to pick 4 teams out of all this mess?? When the season is all over, pony up and post what 4 teams YOU think should be in the playoff on here, and watch people criticize the hell out of your list. If it were still the BCS, then I have zero doubt you would be complaining about what 2 teams were chosen. College football is generally filled with a ton of grey area at the end of the year between teams. No system will make everyone happy. You sound like a person that will never be happy about any system that is created to choose what teams should play for national titles.
Getting smoked by 21 at home isn't a bad loss? I wonder how Saint Nick would spin that?
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/alabamas-nick-saban-lose-game-43829238
But that's the thing. What version of Houston showed up against OU?? The version that beat Louisville?? Or the version that got beat by Navy?? Or the version that got creamed by SMU?? Or the version that got beat by Memphis to finish their season?? It's convenient you pick the one game where Houson was utterly dominated against a Top 5 team this year to make your case, but you left off the 3 games they lost to unranked teams they should have destroyed.
I will complain about anything that I feel compelled to complain about...
I definitely take issue with a 12 member committee that has current AD's on it. Their schools benefit from their conference being represented in the CFP... Former coaches can be the same... the process is just as flawed as USC being excluded in '03 and Auburn in '04...
During tropical storm conditions on the road to a 9-2 team playing for a conference title before they play Army? You can do better than this...
Yet you want to make this personal and once again show why so many folks consider you an ******* and a drama queen on this board.
Now to answer your question if the following teams win ( Penn St / Clemson / Washington / Alabama win those are the 4 that should be in the playoffs.
There are other scenarios of course but I think the only change would be Wisconsin beating Penn St.
Now if you want to discuss beyond this in a civil manner we can continue, however if you want to continue being the resident punk then have at it.
There are still some good posters on this board like Veritas , CT , Oklabama, Senior Sooner and even PlavacaSooner but you will never be one of them.
I did do better. I listed all of their losses. Houston was a 3 loss team this year. I mean it's great they showed up and beat OU to start the year, then showed up and dominated Louisville. But you can't list their bigtime wins in trying to boost OUs resume, and then fail to list the losses Houston suffered this year as well. Navy was prolly better than expected when they played Houston. But that doesn't apply to SMU. And that was Houston's worse loss of the year.
SMU is a well coached team one win shy of their first bowl since their resurrection. The halftime tie at Baylor should have been a 21 point lead for SMU. I wouldn't be surprised if they are one of the 5-7 teams going to a bowl.
Would it be a better loss to Memphis if Fuente was still HC? Players he recruited beat them.
Cry me a river dude. I better stop before you hurt my feelings or something. Lol
I have no problem with your 4 team list. But I also have no issue with Ohio State getting in as well with the season they had.
Or how about this...you mentioned before that if you can't win your conference then you should not be eligible for the playoff. So where is the outrage for Western Michigan?? They could end up with an undefeated season and will easily win their conference. Yet there is zero outrage over them not getting into the playoff discussion. People would rather complain about what 1-loss or 2-loss teams have a case to get in.
IMO, this is the problem with having so much parity in college football, and the fact teams have such dissimilar schedules, and you don't have enough playoff spots to cover the 5 power conferences let alone all the lesser conferences. It's a total cluster. May as well remove parity and at least make it easier to determine what 4 teams are the most deserving. The way it is now, you have 2 undefeated teams, 3 teams with 1-loss, and 6 teams in the Top 10 with 2 losses. And trying to pick the 4 teams out of that and making everyone happy. It's impossible.
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That's the thing. You can find ways to justify and explain losses for about any team on the Top 25. Baylor really ended up not being nearly as good as they looked early in the year. And I thought Memphis lost a ton from last years team. I know they lost their QB Lynch.
Maybe it's just me, but teams get beat for two reasons. Talent and the fix...
Sometimes the talent is in the press box or on the sideline...
The fix can be anywhere...
Cry me a river dude. I better stop before you hurt my feelings or something. Lol
I have no problem with your 4 team list. But I also have no issue with Ohio State getting in as well with the season they had.
Or how about this...you mentioned before that if you can't win your conference then you should not be eligible for the playoff. So where is the outrage for Western Michigan?? They could end up with an undefeated season and will easily win their conference. Yet there is zero outrage over them not getting into the playoff discussion. People would rather complain about what 1-loss or 2-loss teams have a case to get in.
IMO, this is the problem with having so much parity in college football, and the fact teams have such dissimilar schedules, and you don't have enough playoff spots to cover the 5 power conferences let alone all the lesser conferences. It's a total cluster. May as well remove parity and at least make it easier to determine what 4 teams are the most deserving. The way it is now, you have 2 undefeated teams, 3 teams with 1-loss, and 6 teams in the Top 10 with 2 losses. And trying to pick the 4 teams out of that and making everyone happy. It's impossible.
No NP5 school is ever going sniff the playoffs under the current format anymore than they did in the BCS system and that is unfortunate for them.
The only fix to this is to go to 8 teams giving one spot to each P5 conference winner , 1 to the highest rated NP5 and then 2 at large and if one likes the human equation let them pick the 2 WC.
The system is easily fixable but the powers that be will not expand until it has to. 3 teams in the past from the G5 conferences might just have shocked the world if they had just been given a shot. ( Boise , Utah and TCU ).
Parity is great for college football but also winning conference championships should be the measuring stick because if they dont mean crap to the committee then we might as well get rid of conferences.
I get it that some people think it shouldnt be the end all but if you put in a team that lost to the conference champ then you have just crapped on that team.
This 4 team playoff in just a modified BCS to appease those powers. The difference is instead of having over 100 plus humans weighing in you now have 12 deciding the fate of those in the running.
That committee if they want to be up front and open need to show how they voted or have that meeting open to at least the press so they can actually let the CFB world know that they actually do what they are suppose to be doing. Bottom line it needs to be transparent and not in secret.
I addressed this earlier in the season... There are 128 FBS schools. Make 8 sixteen team conferences. Use an 11 game regular season. Division winners play for conference championship. 8 conference winners face off in 4 quarter final games. Two semifinal games the following week. Use the NY6 bowls for the playoff, and let stadiums bid for the NC game. It isn't that difficult.
I don't disagree with you that the 4 team playoff right now isn't perfect. But I don't think anyone expected it would solve everything even before it was first implemented 3 seasons ago. Any person with a heartbeat could do the math....4 playoff spots...5 power conferences. Hmm...sounded like a disaster from the get-go. But it's a step in the right direction. Would an 8 team playoff fix it?? I dunno for sure, but I highly doubt it. When you choose 8 teams, there will be the 9th, 10th, etc. teams that will be screaming they got screwed.
Absolutely!!! This is the only way an 8 team playoff would really make the masses happy.
When you have 8 with 5 power 5 leagues, they all get in auto, with 3 wild cards. everyone is happy and no league gets left out and still OSU makes it w/o being a Big 10 champion and the Big 12 is not left out. give the top 4 home field for round 1 and play the final 4 as the CFP is currently played or moved over one week. This CFP should have no affiliation with bowls. Bowl are for non-CFP teams.