Challenger Hellcat/Demon

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Any of you "Paddock Money" ballers own a Hellcat or Demon? Been kicking around buying a Hellcat but it would be my everyday driver and I'm worried about the life and expensive repairs of the super charger. Will probably just go with an SRT392.
 

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Anyone I know who has the Hellcat has had no issues yet, and some have 50,000+ miles
You are thinking about buying a $70,000 car, and worried about a $5000 component that may or may not go out?
 

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Any of you "Paddock Money" ballers own a Hellcat or Demon? Been kicking around buying a Hellcat but it would be my everyday driver and I'm worried about the life and expensive repairs of the super charger. Will probably just go with an SRT392.

If you're worried about the cost of maintaining at $70,000+ sports car, you cannot afford a $70,000+ sports car.
 

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If you're worried about the cost of maintaining at $70,000+ sports car, you cannot afford a $70,000+ sports car.

Hahaha... Paddock tough love. It's not that I can't afford to maintain the car. I just feel that it's not worth the risk due to inherit issues with super chargers.

Now, if they offered those Dodge lifetime warranties, my interest would go back up. But unfortunately (and wisely) they are not available currently for the Hellcat or Demon due to the fact that some folks are racing them.
 

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Anyone I know who has the Hellcat has had no issues yet, and some have 50,000+ miles
You are thinking about buying a $70,000 car, and worried about a $5000 component that may or may not go out?

From what I've been told, it's more like $20K and yes, that's a lot of money to throw at a car, regardless the original purchase price.

As far as others having 50K with no issues, that's reassuring.
 
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There's nothing wrong with the mopars but, if your spending big money anyway, get one of the exotic supercars on the used market. Chicks can't resist a dude in one.
 

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If you’re buying new the sc would be under powertrain warranty for 60k miles (and then prolly extendable) correct? Don’t know anything about hellcats but I’d also guess that sc is not too far off from a bolt on, would think more like 8k ish with labor? It’s not 20.

All this is predicated on the sc failing which is pretty unlikely for daily driving purposes if you take care of it. If you’re ok financially with this particular depreciable asset then I wouldn’t be crazy worried about the other part.
 

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If you’re buying new the sc would be under powertrain warranty for 60k miles (and then prolly extendable) correct? Don’t know anything about hellcats but I’d also guess that sc is not too far off from a bolt on, would think more like 8k ish with labor? It’s not 20.

All this is predicated on the sc failing which is pretty unlikely for daily driving purposes if you take care of it. If you’re ok financially with this particular depreciable asset then I wouldn’t be crazy worried about the other part.

Thanks, Rex. The factory warranty (IIRC) is 3 years/36000. Of course, you can buy additional extended coverage but not the lifetime warranty.
 

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^ no problem

Bumper to bumper is 3/36k double check the powertrain warranty I’m sure it’s probably 5/60k and ask specifically that it’s covered under that (which it should be).

Belt driven sc’s are generally more reliable and easier to fix than exhaust driven turbochargers anyways. Again not well versed in Dodges but would guess someone telling you an sc is $20k of a $70k car doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
 

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The Demon is a Street legal pro stock race car. As cool as it would be to drive one daily, it isn’t built for that.
The Hellcat is the way to go... if you can be disciplined, and use the blue FOB in daily driving.
In all honesty using either one as a daily driver is a waste of a surefire collector item.

Get the 392 SRT and call it a day.
 

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The Demon is a Street legal pro stock race car. As cool as it would be to drive one daily, it isn’t built for that.
The Hellcat is the way to go... if you can be disciplined, and use the blue FOB in daily driving.
In all honesty using either one as a daily driver is a waste of a surefire collector item.

Get the 392 SRT and call it a day.

That's where I'm leaning. The 392 has pretty much every option the HC does, save a few small things, and it is $20K cheaper. But it would be fun to use that red key on occasion.
 

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The 392 HEMI has 485 HP, and similar torque, that’s some serious power. Get the shaker hood, and enjoy.
 

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Mopar or no car.
I get that, but, man, it's not like Dodge doesn't have a history. If I had $70k for a vehicle, Dodge would not be on my list. I'd be paranoid it would spontaneously combust, lol.

I feel the same way about the Raptor. Who drops $70k on a new truck to huck it off of sand dunes? You can build a buggy for a fourth of that, that will out-perform the Raptor.
 

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I get that, but, man, it's not like Dodge doesn't have a history. If I had $70k for a vehicle, Dodge would not be on my list. I'd be paranoid it would spontaneously combust, lol.

I feel the same way about the Raptor. Who drops $70k on a new truck to huck it off of sand dunes? You can build a buggy for a fourth of that, that will out-perform the Raptor.

To each their own. I have zero brand loyalty - I drive what's appealing to me. I am a HUGE fan of first gen Camaros and 60's/70's muscle cars and the Challenger is the one car, to me, where they hit the retro mark.
 

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Hahaha... Paddock tough love. It's not that I can't afford to maintain the car. I just feel that it's not worth the risk due to inherit issues with super chargers.

Now, if they offered those Dodge lifetime warranties, my interest would go back up. But unfortunately (and wisely) they are not available currently for the Hellcat or Demon due to the fact that some folks are racing them.

So you feel its not worth the risk, but you started a thread asking about buying one... Humble brag that you're buying a new car? Why would you DD a Hellcat? Challengers are HUGE cars with horribly small windows that make navigating around a pain in the rear. Buddy's wife had and SRT nice car but the thing was a BOAT...
 

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So you feel its not worth the risk, but you started a thread asking about buying one... Humble brag that you're buying a new car? Why would you DD a Hellcat? Challengers are HUGE cars with horribly small windows that make navigating around a pain in the rear. Buddy's wife had and SRT nice car but the thing was a BOAT...

Not trying to humble brag and I’m sorry if it came off that way.

I’m deciding if it’s worth it to me. Apparently my info was wrong on the cost to replace the super charger and the inherit issues are not as strongly tied to belt driven SC. Still not sure if I want to pay $20k for 200 hp and few options but it’s tempting.

Why would I not DD it? It’s a Dodge, not a Ferrari. With the exception of bad weather I see no issues driving it anywhere, anytime as long as I have all season tires.

I had an Challenger RT. Bought it new in Oct 2008 - was a 2009. Drove it daily up until about 6 months when I traded it. So DD is no problem for me regardless of the size and visability.
 

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Still not sure if I want to pay $20k for 200 hp...
That's like saying you aren't sure if you wanna take Jack3d when you work out -- you either wanna make max gains or you don't.

So the real question is how badly do you wanna go fast, bruh?
 

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Not trying to humble brag and I’m sorry if it came off that way.

I’m deciding if it’s worth it to me. Apparently my info was wrong on the cost to replace the super charger and the inherit issues are not as strongly tied to belt driven SC. Still not sure if I want to pay $20k for 200 hp and few options but it’s tempting.

Why would I not DD it? It’s a Dodge, not a Ferrari. With the exception of bad weather I see no issues driving it anywhere, anytime as long as I have all season tires.

I had an Challenger RT. Bought it new in Oct 2008 - was a 2009. Drove it daily up until about 6 months when I traded it. So DD is no problem for me regardless of the size and visability.
Gotcha. Just sayin, a RWD car with 700 HP doesn't scream DD to me. I do like the Hellcat for what it is.
 

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Apologies in advance OP for the off topic reply.

When it comes to muscle cars, I'm partial to the Mercedes AMG E63 S wagon. Perfect daily driver, super practical and total sleeper. Basically Clark Griswold meets 600 HP.

And for the record, new ones are well above my price range, so this isn't a passive aggressive attempt to brag about finances. Just think it's an unusual, super rare and ridiculous car.
 

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Apologies in advance OP for the off topic reply.

When it comes to muscle cars, I'm partial to the Mercedes AMG E63 S wagon. Perfect daily driver, super practical and total sleeper. Basically Clark Griswold meets 600 HP.

And for the record, new ones are well above my price range, so this isn't a passive aggressive attempt to brag about finances. Just think it's an unusual, super rare and ridiculous car.
Dude, you’re not alone. That’s a fantastic car. Have seen a few around Louisville from time to time (older E63s, don’t think I’ve witnessed the newest one). I’ve had an E55 and CL55 in the past and always been an AMG lover.

Don’t worry about the passive aggressive part, this is The Paddock of all things....it’s almost encouraged. Be nice if things you’re into could be discussed without OMG NICE HUMBLE BRAG YOU HALF A SMALL CRANK OMG every other post.

OP @Crums Bald Spot you should edit the title of the thread to Car / Truck Thread, we haven’t had one in forever.

Any interesting whips out there?
 

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Sure it is, why do you think it comes with from the factory race tires to install at the track?
Because street tires don't hook up. Put them side by side for a 1/4 mile and a pro stock car is lighting up the board about the time the demon gets through the 1/8.
 

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Because street tires don't hook up. Put them side by side for a 1/4 mile and a pro stock car is lighting up the board about the time the demon gets through the 1/8.

It's the front tires that come able to swap out, it comes with narrow front tires ti install at track.

I didn't say it would win Pro stock races, those cars are not street legal and have 100,000 dollar engines. The Demon is street legal, that being key, version of a pro stock race car. It's actually a real bargain price wise, for the performance.
 

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It's the front tires that come able to swap out, it comes with narrow front tires ti install at track.

I didn't say it would win Pro stock races, those cars are not street legal and have 100,000 dollar engines. The Demon is street legal, that being key, version of a pro stock race car. It's actually a real bargain price wise, for the performance.
There's a huge speed/power difference. That's why i said it wasn't even close. As far as being street legal, there are cars as fast as pro stock cars that are street legal. If you're not worried about looks, you can go that fast for much, much cheaper.
 

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There's a huge speed/power difference. That's why i said it wasn't even close. As far as being street legal, there are cars as fast as pro stock cars that are street legal. If you're not worried about looks, you can go that fast for much, much cheaper.

What cars from the factory are that fast, much, much cheaper, and street legal?

The Demon is an over 200MPH car, its sticker is 83K. The Hellcat is a 200MPH car, and it's even cheaper.

The Demon is factory direct, street legal race car. Street legal being the key phrase.
 

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420grover, I'm gonna have to apologize, I was confusing Pro stock and Pro street. You were 100% correct.
 

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420grover, I'm gonna have to apologize, I was confusing Pro stock and Pro street. You were 100% correct.
It's cool.

I never said there were any factory built rides that were as fast as pro stock cars or factory built rides that were faster and cheaper than a Demon, just that those cars were out there.
 
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Any interesting whips out there?
Cadillac CTS V. It gots 640 horsepower and the Caddy style leaves it wide open for curb feelers, landau bars, wire wheels, swan hood ornaments, and a sweet continental tire cover kit on the trunk.

I saw one a few days ago and was pretty impressed. What stood out to me was the look from behind. It's a nice, classy look, but it has some BIGASS tires up under it. It's like a factory built sleeper but the tires give it away.
 

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If you are going to spend $80k on an American sports car why not just go buy a Corvette? Z06 has 650HP, is a great daily car if you need it to be, handles extremely well, and has a good re-sale value. Not practical but how many sports cars really are???
 

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If you are going to spend $80k on an American sports car why not just go buy a Corvette? Z06 has 650HP, is a great daily car if you need it to be, handles extremely well, and has a good re-sale value. Not practical but how many sports cars really are???

Love vettes but I have a 5 yo I take to school daily. Don’t think I can legally put her in a booster seat in the passenger seat.