Checking the UK Men's BB Schedule . . .

[ukalum1988]

.... We have all home games on Saturdays in January:

Jan 7 - Arkansas
Jan 14 - Auburn
Jan 21 - South Carolina
Jan 28 - Kansas

That means the other conference schools won't have UK at home this year for them to have a big recruiting weekend at their home BB games. Seems like last year or the year before that UK only had one Saturday home game in January. Obviously this gives UK plenty of chances to host recruits on visits. Hope we can finish the 2017 class on a high note!

 

[stuway]

This would probably be a better post for the basketball forum. The football peeps aren't gonna love this on here.

 

[rmattox]

Normally I wouldn't give a rat's buttocks about news relative to minor sports, but this IS good Football news for us

 

[ukalum1988]

This would probably be a better post for the basketball forum. The football peeps aren't gonna love this on here.

The ones that care about recruiting among other FB topics will probably be OK with it.

 

[Section31Row4]

The ones that care about recruiting among other FB topics will probably be OK with it.

The big football recruiting event will be the UCLA weekend on Dec. 3rd. That information is over on the House of Blue for those that are interested. It's a massive (and evolving) list that Justin Rowland is tracking.

 

[vhcat70]

.... We have all home games on Saturdays in January:

Jan 7 - Arkansas
Jan 14 - Auburn
Jan 21 - South Carolina
Jan 28 - Kansas

That means the other conference schools won't have UK at home this year for them to have a big recruiting weekend at their home BB games. Seems like last year or the year before that UK only had one Saturday home game in January. Obviously this gives UK plenty of chances to host recruits on visits. Hope we can finish the 2017 class on a high note!

I don't recall us not getting players to another SEC school due to our hoops team playing at that/those SEC school(s) in January. Perhaps you can point out when this happened.

 

[DCFseattle]

I don't recall us not getting players to another SEC school due to our hoops team playing at that/those SEC school(s) in January. Perhaps you can point out when this happened.

That isn't even the point of pointing this out.
The point is (I'm really trying to not use 'point' this often) that SEC schools can't use Kentucky coming to town during a fairly busy recruiting time as a tool to help them.

UK rolling in for basketball is a big event for the other schools. It's the only time the arenas sell out and it creates a buzz on campus when there wouldn't be one otherwise. Makes for kind of a showcase. "This is what we're about." kind of thing.

They use us to help sell their schools. While this scheduling isn't a direct boon for UK, we're not a boon for them, either.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

That isn't even the point of pointing this out.
The point is (I'm really trying to not use 'point' this often) that SEC schools can't use Kentucky coming to town during a fairly busy recruiting time as a tool to help them.

UK rolling in for basketball is a big event for the other schools. It's the only time the arenas sell out and it creates a buzz on campus when there wouldn't be one otherwise. Makes for kind of a showcase. "This is what we're about." kind of thing.

They use us to help sell their schools. While this scheduling isn't a direct boon for UK, we're not a boon for them, either.

I get what you are saying. I seriously doubt schools get football players over us because UK basketball is in town due to buzz, or it will help us get any. Football players may enjoy going to the b-ball games and watching and respecting the great players on our team, but they are football players in the end and will make their decision based on other reasons IMO.

 

[Dakota25]

Normally I wouldn't give a rat's buttocks about news relative to minor sports, but this IS good Football news for us

Basketball is more popular around the world and the state of Kentucky. It's not a minor sport. I love the football only fans. Gives U of L and IU fans decent competition on who is more jealous of UK basketball.

 

[TuckyFB]

 

[rmattox]

Basketball is more popular around the world and the state of Kentucky. It's not a minor sport. I love the football only fans. Gives U of L and IU fans decent competition on who is more jealous of UK basketball.

Not Football only. Love the bball Cats but don't pay attention until March. bball games before that are as meaningful as exhibition mlb games. Still...winning in bball pales in comparison to winning in Football at least in this country...where it matters.

 

[Dakota25]

Not Football only. Love the bball Cats but don't pay attention until March. bball games before that are as meaningful as exhibition mlb games. Still...winning in bball pales in comparison to winning in Football at least in this country...where it matters.

Depends on the state. Kentucky values basketball wins more plus the other basketball states. Some states like Missouri don't go with either and love their hockey. The four major sports are football, basketball, baseball, and hockey. Other sports are the minor sports.

 

[TuckyFB]

Will a mod put this post in rafters... For the love of god.

 

[rmattox]

Depends on the state. Kentucky values basketball wins more plus the other basketball states. Some states like Missouri don't go with either and love their hockey. The four major sports are football, basketball, baseball, and hockey. Other sports are the minor sports.

Dakota...I must be honest. I just felt like taking a jab. bball is okay, but down on my list especially when compared with College Football and MLB. Have a good day.

 

[DCFseattle]

I get what you are saying. I seriously doubt schools get football players over us because UK basketball is in town due to buzz, or it will help us get any. Football players may enjoy going to the b-ball games and watching and respecting the great players on our team, but they are football players in the end and will make their decision based on other reasons IMO.

It's not the basketball. It's the event. You want to show the recruits the best version of campus life, and sell it as the norm. Kentucky basketball is that show during that part of the year. It's the only time of the year that any SEC school outside Kentucky cares about basketball, but care they certainly do.

I would rather our basketball team not be used as a recruiting asset for the rest of the SEC. I would rather not be their event.

 

[rmattox]

I get what you are saying. I seriously doubt schools get football players over us because UK basketball is in town due to buzz, or it will help us get any. Football players may enjoy going to the b-ball games and watching and respecting the great players on our team, but they are football players in the end and will make their decision based on other reasons IMO.

They won't base a decision on a bball game, but I'd say they do in deed schedule recruiting visits on weekends when there is a big bball game. You're right that a Football player likely doesn't give a hoot about a bball game, but if there is a big crowd, they might get caught up in the excitement on the campus.
Look at it from the opposite end: If Ole Miss scheduled a recruiting weekend on a Saturday when the bball team was playing some crappy team... would a crowd of 1200 be a good thing to expose your recruits to?

 

[ORCAT]

I get what the OP is suggesting but think some of the football only fans are missing what he is saying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think his point is that if UK isn't in town on weekends when recruits are brought in by other SEC schools it gives them less to show off in the way of fun campus life at those schools. They don't have a filled arena screaming at the top of their lungs to root against UK. The recruits see a mostly empty arena with bored fans and not much excitement. Thus, the OP is pointing out UK is not giving them any help in showing recruits a fun filled campus during the winter months. Am I close, OP???

 

[Comebakatz3]

Will a mod put this post in rafters... For the love of god.

Try to understand that the OP is talking about the use of basketball games in FOOTBALL recruiting and that's why it is on the football forum.

 

[ukalum1988]

I get what the OP is suggesting but think some of the football only fans are missing what he is saying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think his point is that if UK isn't in town on weekends when recruits are brought in by other SEC schools it gives them less to show off in the way of fun campus life at those schools. They don't have a filled arena screaming at the top of their lungs to root against UK. The recruits see a mostly empty arena with bored fans and not much excitement. Thus, the OP is pointing out UK is not giving them any help in showing recruits a fun filled campus during the winter months. Am I close, OP???

You nailed it ORCAT. Thank you.

 

[vhcat70]

Well then, to the extent any UK hoops game impacts recruiting, I'd say having UK hoops playing at UK during a football recruiting weekend is a 10 & UK playing at any other school during their recruiting is a 1 or 2.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

Will a mod put this post in rafters... For the love of god.

Will a mod direct tuckyFB to use his brain. For the love of god

 

[TuckyFB]

YES, LET'S USE ROUND BALL AS A RECRUITING TOOL!!! It's worked in the past. Damien Harris looks so good in blue doesn't he? Oh wait.

Jedrick WIlls commitment to us puts our recruiting class in the Top 20... Oh wait.

 

[Comebakatz3]

YES, LET'S USE ROUND BALL AS A RECRUITING TOOL!!! It's worked in the past. Damien Harris looks so good in blue doesn't he? Oh wait.

Jedrick WIlls commitment to us puts our recruiting class in the Top 20... Oh wait.

You're somehow still missing the point.

Nonetheless, when a player is coming in for a visit after the season you have to show them a good time and going to a basketball game with 24000 fans is some good entrainment, especially compared to a game at say Ole Miss that only has 5000 people there.

 

[TuckyFB]

You're somehow still missing the point.

Nonetheless, when a player is coming in for a visit after the season you have to show them a good time and going to a basketball game with 24000 fans is some good entrainment, especially compared to a game at say Ole Miss that only has 5000 people there.

FOOTBALL recruits don't give a FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK about attendances for another sport. They see the Austin Peay game attendance.

 

[ukalum1988]

You're somehow still missing the point.

Nonetheless, when a player is coming in for a visit after the season you have to show them a good time and going to a basketball game with 24000 fans is some good entrainment, especially compared to a game at say Ole Miss that only has 5000 people there.

Exactly. A Saturday home game in Oxford in January against UK would have a much better vibe for recruits to their school than a game against Tennessee. At least this year the tables are turned.

 

[Comebakatz3]

FOOTBALL recruits don't give a ****KKKKKKKKKKKK about attendances for another sport. They see the Austin Peay game attendance.

It's not about attendance of a basketball game but the enjoyment of that game that the amount of fans provide. is it really that hard for you to understand?

 

[TuckyFB]

It's not about attendance of a basketball game but the enjoyment of that game that the amount of fans provide. is it really that hard for you to understand?

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT HASN'T WORKED IN OUR FAVOR. What is so hard about that for YOU to understand?

 

[Comebakatz3]

Maybe if you would learn to read you would actually understand that the original poster was not even referring to it being an advantage for us but actually referring to the fact that opposing teams in the SEC could not use Kentucky coming to town for their basketball games as a positive recruiting tool for their football team. They can't use it this year because we don't have many Saturday away games this year in January. That may not be an advantage for us because we may not be going against those teams Head to Head but it probably has at least some of a little bit of an impact on football recruiting Because having a recruit go to a huge game like a Kentucky game where your team is hosting the number one team in the country can provide a lot of entertainment for a high school junior or senior.

That being said for us it is a huge advantage to have a great basketball team in some regards because every person wants to get a football recruit on campus before signing day as soon as close to signing day as possible so that way your school is one of the last things on their mind in the fun they had at your school is fresh with them. So if a recruit is coming to spend the weekend in let's say Lexington or weekend and let's say Knoxville there aren't a ton of things in January that those recruits can do for entertainment. However spending part of your Saturday at a basketball game provides a lot of entertainment and that's really part of the entire thing is showing these players a good time and making them feel like they're at home.

Lastly it is not such a huge deal then why is it that one of our biggest recruiting weekend is coming on December 3rd and those recruits will be attending a basketball game? Why is it that most coaches across the country take their kids that they are recruiting to these basketball games? I guess they're all just dumb for wasting their recruits time because they really don't care about enjoying a basketball game at all. no, it might not be a deciding factor but it definitely helps .

 

[ukalum1988]

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT HASN'T WORKED IN OUR FAVOR. What is so hard about that for YOU to understand?

Changing the subject a little bit, it will be interesting to see if we can get any traction with Jordan Wright, given his stated interest in playing both FB & BB

 

[CB3UK]

The SEC schedules the games so this isn't even something worth griping about. Whatever incidental boost they receive because their basketball team is playing ours on a recruiting weekend is meh at best. Even if more fans are present than usual we still whip them mostnof the time anyway so how exciting an atmosphere do they really have after the first five minutes and then reality sets in? A lot of our fan base is completely clueless as to just how much the rest of the SEC cares so little about basketball. Stuff like this is why they laugh at us.

 

[rmattox]

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT HASN'T WORKED IN OUR FAVOR. What is so hard about that for YOU to understand?

How can you quantify that it has not worked? We might have been much less successful had they not taken recruits to bball games.
I detest measuring everything to bball as much as any Football fan, but I understand and basically agree with OP.

 

[rmattox]

Maybe if you would learn to read you would actually understand that the original poster was not even referring to it being an advantage for us but actually referring to the fact that opposing teams in the SEC could not use Kentucky coming to town for their basketball games as a positive recruiting tool for their football team. They can't use it this year because we don't have many Saturday away games this year in January. That may not be an advantage for us because we may not be going against those teams Head to Head but it probably has at least some of a little bit of an impact on football recruiting Because having a recruit go to a huge game like a Kentucky game where your team is hosting the number one team in the country can provide a lot of entertainment for a high school junior or senior.

That being said for us it is a huge advantage to have a great basketball team in some regards because every person wants to get a football recruit on campus before signing day as soon as close to signing day as possible so that way your school is one of the last things on their mind in the fun they had at your school is fresh with them. So if a recruit is coming to spend the weekend in let's say Lexington or weekend and let's say Knoxville there aren't a ton of things in January that those recruits can do for entertainment. However spending part of your Saturday at a basketball game provides a lot of entertainment and that's really part of the entire thing is showing these players a good time and making them feel like they're at home.

Lastly it is not such a huge deal then why is it that one of our biggest recruiting weekend is coming on December 3rd and those recruits will be attending a basketball game? Why is it that most coaches across the country take their kids that they are recruiting to these basketball games? I guess they're all just dumb for wasting their recruits time because they really don't care about enjoying a basketball game at all. no, it might not be a deciding factor but it definitely helps .

Exactly! Plus, let's get down to brass tacks....What else is going on in lexington after Football season that would attract a kid to UK? Crappy(cold) weather? Oh yeah, they can go to the mall? or maybe shopping at Hamburg? Lexington doesn't exactly have a lot that would draw a big time Football recruit.