Chip Kelly on the Board
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I think the ride has closed down. For now. But in nine months, big schools are going to be throwing coaches overboard quick. Charlie strong might get fired week 3.
I think Texas A&M would be the one to watch ... some of their boosters would shank Sumlin to get Kelly.
I agree... It's not completely out of the question. But, would Kelly settle for A&M is the bigger question.
predict that Kelly will want to make a huge splash at someplace along the order of Southern Cal. LSU boosters are likely kicking themselves for trying to make their move about a month too soon.
Of course, in the pros, the Raiders have been the home for a lot of coaches through the last years.
Of course, in the pros, the Raiders have been the home for a lot of coaches through the last years.
He would kill it at A&M. Texas recruiting hot bed in the SEC. They have the money and faclities. Much easier to recruit there than Oregon.
Pretty sure the Titans fired their coach and have an interim ... my money says he goes there.
My perfect "dream" scenario would be if the Polian/Manning rumors are true and they take over the front office when Webster's contract is up at the end of the yr.
Then go for a HC that's uber good at QB development. Someone like Hue Jackson may be a good choice. Sure, I'd prefer someone established like Gruden but he's not coming back to coach and I don't know if there is anyone else.
Finally, we can't afford to change over defense personnel again from 3-4 to a 4-3. Ideally the new HC would just keep Dick Lebeau on board.
Then go for a HC that's uber good at QB development. Someone like Hue Jackson may be a good choice. Sure, I'd prefer someone established like Gruden but he's not coming back to coach and I don't know if there is anyone else.
Finally, we can't afford to change over defense personnel again from 3-4 to a 4-3. Ideally the new HC would just keep Dick Lebeau on board.
Sadly, the Titans have become one of the worst franchises in professional sports and with the current ownership structure, it is unlikely to improve any time soon.
I'm an original PSL owner and still am today but I haven't been to a game in 5 years. I have a friend who has had season tickets for 3 years and has yet to see them win.
It's sad to see because landing that franchise helped put the city in orbit.
Texas A&M would be a great landing spot for Kelly. Huge investment in the program and facilities down there. With the right coaching, they have the resources to compete with anyone anywhere, including Alabama, LSU, etc. they've been on the doorstep before, and a coach like Kelly could take them over the top.
I think people make too much of the Titans chances to get Kelly because they have Mariota. That is a team with a lot of holes in the roster. There will be better NFL jobs available this year. I'm a Colts fan and I think a coach would have to be crazy to pass on a chance to coach Luck. I'd like to see John Harbaugh reunite with Luck but I would be OK with Kelly if it doesn't go through. Kelly was held back by never having a decent QB to run his offense in Philly
As much as I think his style fits the college game more, and he would absolutely dominate at a school like A&M, I believe the headlines are already written for a Mariota-Kelly reunion in Tennessee. That experiment will last a couple years, he'll get fired because the Titans will remain the Titans, and back to college he'll go. Good news for him, no matter how awful he is in the pros, no matter how much the players he coaches resent him in the pros, every college team will be willing to give him a blank check to come to their school when he's ready to come back. Must be nice.
Agree that Tennessee will do the same thing for him. Maybe if Mariota was a seasoned vet with proven NFL skill, but it's way too early to make an experiment like that work out. If I were him, I'd take Luck and the Colts franchise every day of the week over Tennessee. My gut just tells me he and Mariota are reunited. Seems just meant to be. He tried about as hard as he could to get him in Philly, seems likely he'd just follow him there.
If Kelly stays in the NFL, he'll continue to be a failure. His offense is too gimmicky to sustain success and Kelly is a pretty bad at evaluating talent on an NFL level. With a GM he might be a bit better but at the end of the day, I think he's a college coach. I would take him in a heartbeat at UK.
Agreed, Kelly is a good coach but he needs to stay out of the GM part.
Actually has any of the 'full control' deals that teams have given coaches EVER worked out? Seems like every single one of them fail completely but teams keep doing it.
Ut-oh I said that last night and they deleted my post
Here you have to love stoops and never want Kelly to come coach at uk
According to an ESPN report, the Eagles owner met with Kelly. Told him that he wanted Kelly to remain coach but wanted to strip his GM responsibilities. Kelly told him to stick it and was fired.
I don't want that in Tennessee.
I don't want that in Tennessee.
Kelly only has himself to blame for trading for Sam Bradford. Just one of several questionable trades he orchestrated.
I could certainly see my Browns firing Pettine and bringing in Kelly (who they tried to hire previously) to coach up Manziel. I would hate every bit of that move.
Lol....two more years, folks. UK will not be on the hook for buyouts right now. All these coaches know their seats are hot, but this IS Kentucky, and it IS football. Coach Stoops is a passionate speaker and meets and greets well. If there are no major off field issues, the man will stick. Besides, I believe Kelly has a Texas sized ego....and THAT is a team that wouldn't surprise me to make a play quickly........sorry, Charlie.
Why not? Kelly's biggest problem was Andy Reid's players not liking him and having to trade them in order to keep the locker room in line with him. The vets from the Reid tenure didn't like his style at all.
What he wanted to do would make Tennesse a lot better! Any fans not wanting him is silly. Basing it on anything in Philly is a bad idea. His strategy on the roster is actually a good one but turning it from what Reid had was impossible.
If hired by the Packers. Chip Kelly would immediately trade Aaron Rogers, Jordy Nelson, and Randle Cobb. According to Chip, it's not about the players in the NFL, it's about his system.
Kelly went 10-6 with Reid's guys. When he finally started to get his guys, the record tanked.
Also, we have to think long term stability of the organization.
-Mariota has shown plenty of potential to be an elite QB under a pro-style offense. His development is critical to the Titans' future. We need to prepare like Mariota will be here 15+ yrs. Kelly's system likely hinders QB development.....sure, Mariota would do well while Kelly is here but when he leaves the team would be in dire straits. In short, Mariota doesn't need Kelly. Kelly needs Mariota.
-Front office - Webster's contract is up at the end of the season. My hope is that the organization goes 1 of 2 different ways. Option 1 involves going for Eric DeCosta. Eric has been Assistant GM for Ozzie at Baltimore. He's also been in control of the Ravens' draft since 2005. (He's chosen 6 perennial pro-bowl players and a SB MVP during that time). Option 2 is more unlikely but extremely intriguing. Rumors of Peyton Manning coming back to Tennessee have floated around for yrs. And just recently a rumor has surfaced that according to Shefter at ESPN actually has some legs to it. I involves Manning and his former boss at Indy, Bill Polian....or at least his son. The idea is that they would come run the Titans' front office......with the HC being Gase (OC from Bears.....formerly Manning's OC in Denver). However, Manning would have to retire if this were true and we all can see how much he's hanging on.
-head coach - it is imperative that we have a HC that will help develop Mariota. Hue Jackson and Darrell Bevell are just such guys. Jackson has made guys like Jason Cambell and Andy Dalton look like pro-bowlers....both mobile QBs. Bevell is the guy who pushed to draft Russell Wilson and develop him (though there has been some reports that Bevell has the demeanor of a career OC). There are others out there as well.
We also can't afford to go through another defensive personnel changeover. It takes 3-4 yrs to change personnel from a 4-3 to a 3-4 base.....and vice versa. After about 5 yrs of funk, this organization can't afford to change back over. And why would you even want to? Just throw money at Dick Lebeau to get him to stay. The defense has actually don't fairly well this yr. Just build on the foundation you already have in place.
-off-season - between free agency and the draft, it is imperative to protect Mariota. We have a number of needs on the team but if you don't correct the OL and protect Mariota then it doesn't matter what else you do. Then, of course, there are other areas that need to be addressed.....more offensive weapons, improve defensive secondary, depth across the board. Also, what are you going to do with Mettenberger? Do you ride him as a back-up through next yr's contract then let him go in FA? Or do you trade him now?
This team can "approach" 8 wins next yr if they make the right decisions. That would at the very least get this program back to their historical average (since moving to Tennessee they've averaged 8 wins a yr). When McNair was at the helm (and with great coaching) we were playoff contenders.....Mariota can get us back there but we can't get there with a HC that "alienates players" and is thought to be "unapproachable" by players and members of the staff. Kelly just doesn't have a good reputation.
Also, we have to think long term stability of the organization.
-Mariota has shown plenty of potential to be an elite QB under a pro-style offense. His development is critical to the Titans' future. We need to prepare like Mariota will be here 15+ yrs. Kelly's system likely hinders QB development.....sure, Mariota would do well while Kelly is here but when he leaves the team would be in dire straits. In short, Mariota doesn't need Kelly. Kelly needs Mariota.
-Front office - Webster's contract is up at the end of the season. My hope is that the organization goes 1 of 2 different ways. Option 1 involves going for Eric DeCosta. Eric has been Assistant GM for Ozzie at Baltimore. He's also been in control of the Ravens' draft since 2005. (He's chosen 6 perennial pro-bowl players and a SB MVP during that time). Option 2 is more unlikely but extremely intriguing. Rumors of Peyton Manning coming back to Tennessee have floated around for yrs. And just recently a rumor has surfaced that according to Shefter at ESPN actually has some legs to it. I involves Manning and his former boss at Indy, Bill Polian....or at least his son. The idea is that they would come run the Titans' front office......with the HC being Gase (OC from Bears.....formerly Manning's OC in Denver). However, Manning would have to retire if this were true and we all can see how much he's hanging on.
-head coach - it is imperative that we have a HC that will help develop Mariota. Hue Jackson and Darrell Bevell are just such guys. Jackson has made guys like Jason Cambell and Andy Dalton look like pro-bowlers....both mobile QBs. Bevell is the guy who pushed to draft Russell Wilson and develop him (though there has been some reports that Bevell has the demeanor of a career OC). There are others out there as well.
We also can't afford to go through another defensive personnel changeover. It takes 3-4 yrs to change personnel from a 4-3 to a 3-4 base.....and vice versa. After about 5 yrs of funk, this organization can't afford to change back over. And why would you even want to? Just throw money at Dick Lebeau to get him to stay. The defense has actually don't fairly well this yr. Just build on the foundation you already have in place.
-off-season - between free agency and the draft, it is imperative to protect Mariota. We have a number of needs on the team but if you don't correct the OL and protect Mariota then it doesn't matter what else you do. Then, of course, there are other areas that need to be addressed.....more offensive weapons, improve defensive secondary, depth across the board. Also, what are you going to do with Mettenberger? Do you ride him as a back-up through next yr's contract then let him go in FA? Or do you trade him now?
This team can "approach" 8 wins next yr if they make the right decisions. That would at the very least get this program back to their historical average (since moving to Tennessee they've averaged 8 wins a yr). When McNair was at the helm (and with great coaching) we were playoff contenders.....Mariota can get us back there but we can't get there with a HC that "alienates players" and is thought to be "unapproachable" by players and members of the staff. Kelly just doesn't have a good reputation.
Up tempo does not work long term in the NFL. Teams that run up tempo end up having their defense on the field considerably longer. Saw a study somebody did and over a season the additional plays ended up being between 3-4 games worth of plays over a season. That's a lot of additional wear and tear on your defensive. In college that isn't as big a problem because you have much bigger rosters and can rotate more players. In the NFL with 53 man rosters there isn't the depth to rotate players to keep them fresh. Your defense may hold up early in the season but by late season it will wear out.
Add at Tennessee...Mariota has missed 4-5 games due to injuries and they haven't run him much at all. Kelly would likely result in Mariota's career being cut real short.
The additional thing about Kelly is that his playbook is really small and over time he becomes predictable. DCs in the NFL have him figured out.