Coach K

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Hate to say it, but he should probably get out of coaching altogether. Has shown no ability to lead teams over his career.
 
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LongTimeDukeFan

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Nov 20, 2009
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Why stick with the small ball?
K doesn't play small ball. K plays whatever his top five guys can give him on the court. I do wish had Giles for 1 more year (wishful thinking). Amile's rebounding seemed to be based solely on emotion and sheer will.
 

OhioDukeFan32

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The only complaints I have is not developing meaningful depth. He'd rather win those games in Nov and Dec than give his 7th, 8th and 9th players meaningful time.

Also, there zone gave them a 7 pt lead at halftime. SC hit some shots early and they went back to man to man and I knew they were done.
 

dukiejay

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The only complaints I have is not developing meaningful depth. He'd rather win those games in Nov and Dec than give his 7th, 8th and 9th players meaningful time.

Also, there zone gave them a 7 pt lead at halftime. SC hit some shots early and they went back to man to man and I knew they were done.

I don't know whether or not it was the zone....South Carolina was missing wide open shots. As much credit as I want to give our defense, they weren't the reason USC shot 7-for-35 in the first half.
 

dukiejay

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Why stick with the small ball?

I think it's more of playing your five best players than it is small ball. Both our 2001 and 2015 teams were designed almost identical to this season when it comes down to it. Besides, Tatum and Amile rebounded fine....we needed more from our guards.
 
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HuffyJB

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I don't know whether or not it was the zone....South Carolina was missing wide open shots. As much credit as I want to give our defense, they weren't the reason USC shot 7-for-35 in the first half.

I knew the pendulum would swing back a little bit in the second half in regards to their shooting, but I did not anticipate the insane second half explosion.

They shot 71% and scored 65 points in the second half, and both are single half records for K's 3+ decade tenure. That is pretty crazy.

And even more so when you consider the offensive bonifides SC had put together over the 30+ game sample size before that second half. On the season, they averaged 36 points a half, before dropping the aforementioned 65.
Their season averages vs. what they did in the second half:
FG% - Season: 41% 2nd Half: 71%
3 pt. % - Season: 33% 2nd Half: 80%
FT% - Season: 69% 2nd Half: 91%

Duke as never an elite defensive team, so that contributed. But with numbers that crazy that took such huge jumps, including some unprecedented in K's long career, it can't all be blamed on that. The reality is that SC was also completely and inexplicably off the planet for 20 minutes.
 

2 skerz 3_rivals208847

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I knew the pendulum would swing back a little bit in the second half in regards to their shooting, but I did not anticipate the insane second half explosion.

They shot 71% and scored 65 points in the second half, and both are single half records for K's 3+ decade tenure. That is pretty crazy.

And even more so when you consider the offensive bonifides SC had put together over the 30+ game sample size before that second half. On the season, they averaged 36 points a half, before dropping the aforementioned 65.
Their season averages vs. what they did in the second half:
FG% - Season: 41% 2nd Half: 71%
3 pt. % - Season: 33% 2nd Half: 80%
FT% - Season: 69% 2nd Half: 91%

Duke as never an elite defensive team, so that contributed. But with numbers that crazy that took such huge jumps, including some unprecedented in K's long career, it can't all be blamed on that. The reality is that SC was also completely and inexplicably off the planet for 20 minutes.
Good post. I will add that we lost that game in the 1st half. Coulda/shoulda been up by 15-20 pts and the game is effectively over at that point. However, we only shot the ball 17 times the 1st half. 17 TIMES?!?!
 

Mpm277

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The reality is that SC was also completely and inexplicably off the planet for 20 minutes.

Teams see to have those moments with us. Arizona, Lehigh, Mercer, etc. If it sounds weird to include Arizona in there, they played out of their minds in that game and their center (Williams) shot 57% from three in that game, I believe.
 

Droptops

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I knew the pendulum would swing back a little bit in the second half in regards to their shooting, but I did not anticipate the insane second half explosion.

They shot 71% and scored 65 points in the second half, and both are single half records for K's 3+ decade tenure. That is pretty crazy.

And even more so when you consider the offensive bonifides SC had put together over the 30+ game sample size before that second half. On the season, they averaged 36 points a half, before dropping the aforementioned 65.
Their season averages vs. what they did in the second half:
FG% - Season: 41% 2nd Half: 71%
3 pt. % - Season: 33% 2nd Half: 80%
FT% - Season: 69% 2nd Half: 91%

Duke as never an elite defensive team, so that contributed. But with numbers that crazy that took such huge jumps, including some unprecedented in K's long career, it can't all be blamed on that. The reality is that SC was also completely and inexplicably off the planet for 20 minutes.
Man I sat in the stands the second half and for it seems like eternity, saw SC miss 2 shots. I was like this is crazy. They couldn't miss shots they were trying to miss lol
 
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timo0402

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Good post. I will add that we lost that game in the 1st half. Coulda/shoulda been up by 15-20 pts and the game is effectively over at that point. However, we only shot the ball 17 times the 1st half. 17 TIMES?!?!
Too me it was much like the Cuse game. It was typical of our entire season. Better team, check. Should be up 15-20, check. Don't put them away and let them gain confidence, check. Let the opposing fans get more and more behind them, check.

Credit to them for shooting out of their minds in the 2nd half. Our first half turnovers and lack of rebounding on D crushed our chance to put them away and send at least the UNC fans home early was a huge factor to me.
 

Testkid

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I think it's more of playing your five best players than it is small ball. Both our 2001 and 2015 teams were designed almost identical to this season when it comes down to it. Besides, Tatum and Amile rebounded fine....we needed more from our guards.

The key difference is that those teams actually had a college center playing the 5. Amile is not a center. Then it's not just rebounding it's having people that can add some type of rim protection down low. Yes our guards have been terrible on defense and that's the issue. That's why I don't think it's a great thing to have Kennard and Allen back together unless we somehow get bamba
 

Quavarius

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Man I sat in the stands the second half and for it seems like eternity, saw SC miss 2 shots. I was like this is crazy. They couldn't miss shots they were trying to miss lol

And that just seems to happen to Duke.
 

Dattier

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Sep 1, 2003
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The only complaints I have is not developing meaningful depth. He'd rather win those games in Nov and Dec than give his 7th, 8th and 9th players meaningful time.
There's a pretty well known and well established philosophy behind K's methods. It has worked out pretty well. Many of us are frustrated when it doesn't. There's no reason to mischaracterize what "he'd rather" do, though.
 

SwlaDukie

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I would like to see Coach K hire Carlos Boozer, Christian Laettner, or Elton Brand to coach to work with the bigs during the season. Maybe go out and get a top of the line strength and conditioning coach as well.
 

dukiejay

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I would like to see Coach K hire Carlos Boozer, Christian Laettner, or Elton Brand to coach to work with the bigs during the season. Maybe go out and get a top of the line strength and conditioning coach as well.

Duke's strength and conditioning coach is widely considered one of the best at what he does. Also, because a player was great doesn't mean it always translates over to being a great coach. I get what you're saying, but what makes sense doesn't always make sense.
 

Swervin_Irvin_Duke

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K is moving with the times showing he is the GOAT once again. The game has evolved, look at the NBA they have done away with the center position. why? Because scouts want do-it-all big men like KD, Paul George, Porzingis, AD etc. Hell even Big Cuz's face-up game is sick. The point is K will never recruit a traditional back to the basket player again. Basketball will always be a big mans sport, its just now they want HIGHLY skilled big men. Seven footers with elite guard package and mean post game (thanks to the influx of highly skilled big euro players). Length over strength. Even Wendell Carter has a mean face-up game, and can stretch it out to the 3.