Collectives

[BlueBlood96Cat]

All this JMI stuff is confusing. Simple question. If a billionaire UK alumni wanted to buy Kentucky a roster yall are saying they wouldn’t be able to? I couldn’t give Stokes 10 million of my own money if that’s what I wanted to do? And other schools can do that? If so I’m gonna stop watching Kentucky all together. The ugly has just started.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Can delete this thread I just need a simple answer. Can donors buy players here if they choose yes or no.


Ik collectives may of been the wrong word

 

[Catlogic1552]

That’s my understanding.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

That’s my understanding.

Thanks

 

[RobEStacy]

It would have to go through NILGo, and if the service Stokes is providing is not considered fair market value then it would be denied. But it appears alot of colleges, or students are by passing NILGo and basiclly daring the NCAA to do anything. But to more your question, I do not think there is anything inside the JMI deal, from what I have seen on Google, that would prevent this. Outside of the NCAA.

 

[Rainmaker]

Simple answer is yes they could.
If a booster wanted to give millions for Stokes they could. It’s not as simple as here’s the money but it’s not complicated either.

It's the athletes agents trying to get NIL deals above and beyond the package UK is offering that causes the issues with JMI. Where I don’t see that as a problem is 3 million is 3 million regardless of where it comes from. Thats why I think the whole JMI is the issue is misleading and very misunderstood. The bigger issue is the playing time, the spotlight and the roles the recruits are being sold on. Our staff isn’t painting that picture well enough to attract top recruits and that’s the real issue with our recruiting.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Can delete this thread I just need a simple answer. Can donors buy players here if they choose yes or no.


Ik collectives may of been the wrong word

Yes but is it within the rules?

Mitch would tell you no. As a result of the anti-trust settlement, NILGo was created which is to review ALL NIL deals to determine the athlete is providing a bona-fide service for the business (not simply athletic performance)and the value paid is a true market value. Most (70%) private collective deals were failing the review. Some schools/players/collectives have complained the review has taken too long/too onerous so allegedly some are circumventing NILGo and simply doing deals. Anyone been punished yet? Nope.

So if other schools are doing this and UK isn’t coupled with the alleged structure of JMI requirements, UK appears to be behind the proverbial 8 ball.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

It would have to go through NILGo, and if the service Stokes is providing is not considered fair market value then it would be denied. But it appears alot of colleges, or students are by passing NILGo and basiclly daring the NCAA to do anything. But to more your question, I do not think there is anything inside the JMI deal, from what I have seen on Google, that would prevent this. Outside of the NCAA.

Except for us because ya know, we won’t bend the rules. Mitch Brainfart doesn’t get a kickback from donors buying players.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Yes but is it within the rules?

Mitch would tell you no. As a result of the anti-trust settlement, NILGo was created which is to review ALL NIL deals to determine the athlete is providing a bona-fide service for the business (not simply athletic performance)and the value paid is a true market value. Most (70%) private collective deals were failing the review. Some schools/players/collectives have complained the review has taken too long/too onerous so allegedly some are circumventing NILGo and simply doing deals. Anyone been punished yet? Nope.

So if other schools are doing this and UK isn’t coupled with the alleged structure of JMI requirements, UK appears to be behind the proverbial 8 ball.

What I don’t understand is how someone could tell me if a players investment is good enough. It would be my own money to do as I please. I guess that’s why a lot of schools bend the rules and just hand them cash on the side.

It would be easy for me to go to Stokes personally and be like if you go to my team over there in Kentucky I have ten million dollar check for you.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Deloitte has supposedly created some algorithm to analyze deals by comparing them to other deals. My question is how does Deloitte know the details of all other marketing deals? Just seems like Congress/Judiciary opened up Pandora‘s box and nobody knows what to do to fix it.

What I don’t understand is how someone could tell me if a players investment is good enough. It would be my own money to do as I please. I guess that’s why a lot of schools bend the rules and just hand them cash on the side.

It would be easy for me to go to Stokes personally and be like if you go to my team over there in Kentucky I have ten million dollar check for you.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan73]

If BYU is paying AJ 4 million then no way they are using NILGO

 

[Kentucky15]

Simple answer is yes they could.
If a booster wanted to give millions for Stokes they could. It’s not as simple as here’s the money but it’s not complicated either.

It's the athletes agents trying to get NIL deals above and beyond the package UK is offering that causes the issues with JMI. Where I don’t see that as a problem is 3 million is 3 million regardless of where it comes from. Thats why I think the whole JMI is the issue is misleading and very misunderstood. The bigger issue is the playing time, the spotlight and the roles the recruits are being sold on. Our staff isn’t painting that picture well enough to attract top recruits and that’s the real issue with our recruiting.

No they can’t and it’s that simple. They could but also they don’t have to. It has to be approved. Not saying it wouldn’t be, but it doesn’t have to be. Mitch is playing by “collective rules” and that’s agains the rules. That’s why this is so insanely awful.

Don’t even get into these kids wearing the logos. That’s a whole other shtstorm. Tennessee Alabama lsu Georgia none of them stand in the way of these deals due to unenforceable rules. UK does.

Listen people can continue to try and downplay how awful that contract is. The facts are agents want nothing to do with it, it cost the player money and creates unnecessary paperwork and obstacles. That is a fact.

 

[Dr.LutherSan]

At some point, the powers that be have to realize that NIL isn't temporary. This era will create new bluebloods and those that don't change with the times will be Indiana Hoosiers and Nebraska Hoosiers. It's sad when the fans understand that more than the ones in charge.

 

[JwUKFan11]

If BYU is paying AJ 4 million then no way they are using NILGO

Didn't go into effect until a little before this season. Meaning most of the deals for this year were done before it was put into place. He is also making more than 4 mil.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Deloitte has supposedly created some algorithm to analyze deals by comparing them to other deals. My question is how does Deloitte know the details of all other marketing deals? Just seems like Congress/Judiciary opened up Pandora‘s box and nobody knows what to do to fix it.

Of course not. This was an issue that should have been planned 30 years ago. Really planned and implemented so everyone could know what to do. Now the courts rule you get paid however you want while giving no power to anyone to regulate any rules.

 

[kydmb99]

This NIL GO thing was never going to not be a disaster

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

At some point, the powers that be have to realize that NIL isn't temporary. This era will create new bluebloods and those that don't change with the times will be Indiana Hoosiers and Nebraska Hoosiers. It's sad when the fans understand that more than the ones in charge.

They understand it but the few people that are in control are making so much money I’m sure. Seems simple as a fan you would think the AD would want football and basketball to be as good as possible.