Condolences: Tyson Gay's Daughter

[Free_Salato_Blue]

Shot down during a shootout near UK campus.
Sad see a young person with great potential snuffed out by low-life thugs.
R.I.P.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article108608787.html

 

[AustinTXCat]

Shot down during a shootout near UK campus.
Sad see a young person with great potential snuffed out by low-life thugs.
R.I.P.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article108608787.html

Damn that is really effed up. Thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

 

[funKYcat75]

Trinity was a great kid. Obviously a lot of athletic potential but she was also a bright girl. She was in my son's gym class this year but they're not that close despite being in classes on and off since 4th grade. Just a stupid tragedy.

Also, please keep your "she shouldn't have been out at 4 am thoughts to yourself." Trust me. Everyone has heard it.

 

[TortElvisII]

Trinity was a great kid. Obviously a lot of athletic potential but she was also a bright girl. She was in my son's gym class this year but they're not that close despite being in classes on and off since 4th grade. Just a stupid tragedy.

Also, please keep your "she shouldn't have been out at 4 am thoughts to yourself." Trust me. Everyone has heard it.

I doubt anyone is thinking that. Some of us believe in law and order no matter the time. That is time I go to exercise in the summer.

 

[funKYcat75]

I doubt anyone is thinking that. Some of us believe in law and order no matter the time. That is time I go to exercise in the summer.

Plenty have, according to FB and Twitter. She was with her mom after getting home late from a meet, supposedly.

I guess it's like this everywhere with a large population, but this kind of **** has multipled in Lexington lately.

 

[TortElvisII]

So, people believe after midnight getting shot is expected? Our culture is destroyed.

 

[funKYcat75]

I've found that most people are extremely stupid.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Pretty messed up. Lexington has gotten worse over the years.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

everywhere has

 

[Hank Camacho]

everywhere has

No it hasn't. Nationwide violent crime stats have been dropping for years, it is just that reporting has sensationalized so that it seems like things have gotten worse. Couple that with more frequent terrorist attacks and most people feel like things have gotten worse when, on the whole, America has been increasingly safer.

However, there are upticks in violent crime in certain cities. That appears to be the case in Lexington.

Edit: Here are the Lexington homicide numbers since 2010

2010 - 188
2011 - 151
2012 - 201
2013 - 172
2014 - 164
2015 - 209

Numbers are not available yet for 2016, but it certainly "feels" worse this year and last. (And I know that cuts against my argument to look at the stats.) But it does feel worse.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Get your head out of the sand, bro.

Anybody with even a cursory understanding of statistics knows they can be manipulated and never tell the whole story anyway.

Im not talk g about what you or anyone else feels.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Get your head out of the sand, bro.

Bro, I'm not letting a condolences thread about the murder of the daughter of one of Lexington's most beloved citizens turn into a pissing match about violent crime statistics.

My point was that since last year Lexington has seemed increasingly violent and this is just the latest tragedy. Regardless, this is my last post on this.

My heart and prayers go out to the family. I can't even imagine the heartbreak of one day finding out that your 15 year old daughter was randomly murdered.

I hope the entire community rallies around them.

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

The first thing I thought was, "what's a 14-year old doing out at 4AM?" That's not saying she deserved it. That's me, as a father, knowing that there are a lot of scumbags out there and they commit their crimes in bad areas late at night. Like this exact one.

 

[cricket3]

Last night was a rough night, the Cookout murder, the two people shot at Trust (where Wall, Boogie, etc were after the game), and 3 armed clown robberies.

That's me, as a father, knowing that there are a lot of scumbags out there and they commit their crimes in bad areas late at night. Like this exact one.

"Bad areas" seriously? I've walked around that area many times in the past after midnight when I had friends living at Newtown Crossing and never felt threatened. That's the problem, lots of these murders are happening in traditionally safe areas around campus.

 

[(Wildcat)]

However, there are upticks in violent crime in certain cities. That appears to be the case in Lexington.

Edit: Here are the Lexington homicide numbers since 2010

2010 - 188
2011 - 151
2012 - 201
2013 - 172
2014 - 164
2015 - 209

Numbers are not available yet for 2016, but it certainly "feels" worse this year and last. (And I know that cuts against my argument to look at the stats.) But it does feel worse.

Not sure if you meant to label those as homicide numbers, but the homicide numbers are:

2012-12
2013-20
2014-18
2015-16
YTD-14 (I think)

And violent crime has actually been decreasing at a good clip in Lexington over the last few years per the FBI numbers.

Despite those numbers, there is still plenty of crime in Lexington, as evidenced by this senseless murder. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Gay family.

 

[qwesley]

No it hasn't.

It turned last year as murders went up 10.8%, the largest increase in decades. We will see it was an outlier or a new trend. My WAG is the cartels have moved to harder stuff and away from weed which is driving it. Lexington being on I75 probably plays a role, see lots of murders have links to Detroit and this whole area is now probably the epicenter of the heroin epidemic. See Louisville below and Cincy is up 22%.

 

[Oldblueone]

Was there a murder at the Cook Out?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Plenty have, according to FB and Twitter. She was with her mom after getting home late from a meet, supposedly.

I guess it's like this everywhere with a large population, but this kind of **** has multipled in Lexington lately.

Condolences to Trinitys family and friends. What a senseless and tragic loss.

I live a long way away these days, but I keep up with both Corbin and Lexington on a daily basis. From my perspective there has been a radical increase in shootings and violent crime in Lexington over the past few years. From 82 to 90, Lexington was home. It's heartbreaking to see such a beautiful and decent city succumb to the same gang/drugs/uncaring attitudes that haunt most cities. BLM be damned, the local police have to get more aggressive in dealing with criminals, white or black or otherwise, in Lexington. If they don't take out the trash, Lexington will become just like Savannah, a shooting gallery. Believe me, anyone who loves Lexington doesn't want it to emulate Savannah.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Not sure if you meant to label those as homicide numbers, but the homicide numbers are:

2012-12
2013-20
2014-18
2015-16
YTD-14 (I think)

And violent crime has actually been decreasing at a good clip in Lexington over the last few years per the FBI numbers.

Despite those numbers, there is still plenty of crime in Lexington, as evidenced by this senseless murder. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Gay family.

I am an idiot. I listed KY's murder numbers. Not Lexington's.

Derp.

 

[domino79]

Your credibility took a big hit in this thread, Hank.
Some might argue you'll never recover?

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

I knew Lexington was getting bad when five years ago, some pill head committed a robbery and then ran and then robbed my 74 year old aunt by putting a knife to her tgroat and then stole her car. This was on Tate's Creek Rd too in broad daylight.

 

[Saguaro Cat]

I knew Lexington was getting bad when five years ago, some pill head committed a robbery and then ran and then robbed my 74 year old aunt by putting a knife to her tgroat and then stole her car. This was on Tate's Creek Rd too in broad daylight.

Probably the first time in the history of Lexington that had ever happened.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

You wanna end gun violence charge 5000 grand a bullet. Problem solved

 

[Xception]

I hate to see Lexington join other cities that have these issues , I live close enough to get the benefits of Lexington but far enough away that I don't have to deal with the ish .

 

[mashburned]

They have three suspects in custody. None were the killers. One was 21 yr on "reentry supervision" - probation I assume? Hate the way media changed the way they cover this stuff - till 2019 for cocaine offenses, fleeing and invading...just another felon with a gun who was under government supervision. The other two - 19 yr and his 38 yr father. Wow.

Wanton endangerment. Slap em on the wrist. Maybe give em some more probation and reiterate the fact that they aren't allowed to guns. Please and thank you.

Ray Larson is smiling, just waiting for someone to ask his opinion on our ***** *** system that cooperates with and rewards criminals.

Another weird and irresponsible part of this...that area is bad, contrary to what UK might say. It's drug infested. Shootouts are not uncommon at all. Dealers live amongst students in these huge megaplex apartment things....developed by ex senator, btw. It's just a very odd spot for them. I assume rezoning was done to accommodate these buildings. The newest one at least had like 10ft reinforced fence all around it. They weren't carefully planned, I can tell you that.

 

[TruBluCatFan]

You wanna end gun violence charge 5000 grand a bullet. Problem solved

Because bad guys would never resort to stealing bullets.

 

[Chuckinden]

Because bad guys would never resort to stealing bullets.

Or make their own.

 

[UKGrad93]

Terrible senseless tragedy. I hope the killers are brought to justice. Peace for the family.

 

[funKYcat75]

None were the killers.

Where did you hear this? I read last night that the first guy arrested did the shooting, but that they used the W.E. charge just to bring him in because he wasn't supposed to have a gun in the first place.

 

[funKYcat75]

So all THREE of these idiots admitted to firing their guns on Sunday. If the one that shot her was in 'self defense' what kind of charge can he get? Seems like a very tricky case.

 

[mashburned]

Where did you hear this? I read last night that the first guy arrested did the shooting, but that they used the W.E. charge just to bring him in because he wasn't supposed to have a gun in the first place.

In my head...

I think I assumed bc of the wanton stuff these guys were involved, as cooperating with police to get the guy who will later be charged with the murder.

I guess they don't know until a) they have all that guns and can match the bullet? Or is that just on CSI.

Idk. Our law is a damn joke. Only thing I'm 1000 certain.

 

[UKGrad93]

So all THREE of these idiots admitted to firing their guns on Sunday. If the one that shot her was in 'self defense' what kind of charge can he get? Seems like a very tricky case.

I read something about charges of wanton endangerment, but that only carries 5 yrs. I would think eventually some sort of murder charge, but it couldn't be 1st degree right? The bad guys didn't know her/weren't aiming for her. Seems messed up that they could get a lesser sentence, because shooting her was an accident.

 

[TruBluCatFan]

I read something about charges of wanton endangerment, but that only carries 5 yrs. I would think eventually some sort of murder charge, but it couldn't be 1st degree right? The bad guys didn't know her/weren't aiming for her. Seems messed up that they could get a lesser sentence, because shooting her was an accident.

Wanton endangerment does only carry a 1-5 but that is just the charge they used to arrest and get them off the street while the finish investigation.

Probably not gonna get a first degree murder charge but will likely get a wanton murder charge which is also a Class A felony and has same penalty, 20-life.

And IMO they will likely charge everyone involved in the shooting under the felony murder rule. So they are all looking at a lifetime behind bars.

And this is the first high profile case to land on Lou Anna Red Corn's desk since she took over for Ray the DA so she will want to show the world who she is.