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I come in peace and wanted to congratulate you on getting into the last 4. Wanted to state a few things. I read some of you think LSU will blow out OU. I for one don't think they will. Hell anyone has a chance in these one and done scenarios. I think OU's offense is still deadly even though they seemed to have cooled off recently. What's the reason in your opinion? Is it Hurt's and his ball security. LSU is peaking defensively. They played like dog crap for much of the season and looked unstoppable for some halfs in football games like the first half against Bama and the second half against Florida, but couldn't put a full game together until they played the aggies and Georgia. I guess better late than never. I really thought the Georgia game would be closer, but they had no answer for Burrow.

I was looking at the statistics between OU and Baylor and noticed one huge discrepency. Lamb had 173 receiving yards and the second highest only had 24. I think LSU will be able to slow Lamb down, but he is too good and will still get some yards. Are you concerned that others won't show up to pick up the slack receiving?

My biggest concern from an LSU standpoint is Hurts ability to get yards with his feet. We have struggled with running qbs's. I know Aranda will have a plan in place, but it is still a concern. Hopefully we can try and get a few turnovers. Hurts has 13 turnovers all season. Here's to a great game free of injuries!
 

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Thanks for the kind post. On paper, this isn't much of a matchup but we'll play to see if OU can step up. Here's to a well played, injury-free game.

As Scott Hill said in his pregame prayer before Nebraska-OU in 1976, "Dear Lord, please don't let the best team win." LOL
 

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1. Hurts isn’t the passer / ball security that he was In September. His fumbles and bad reads I think forced LR to be more conservative and try to get 5-10 yards running vs the vertical passing. Add to that - the running game is a strength.

2. Lamb of course is the #1 on this team but ask Bama about Rambo. He’s legit and will flat out burn ya. Not sure anyone is faster in CFB. Hurts hasn’t been throwing deep very much as I doubt LR truly trust him.

3. Also - the biggest story here is OU is 11 months removed from 4 OL getting drafted, the First WR taken in the draft and the #1 pick. Add to that, our starting TE retired and starting RB tore his ACL.

Yes - the offense isn’t as strong - nor should it be.
 

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1. Hurts isn’t the passer / ball security that he was In September. His fumbles and bad reads I think forced LR to be more conservative and try to get 5-10 yards running vs the vertical passing. Add to that - the running game is a strength.

2. Lamb of course is the #1 on this team but ask Bama about Rambo. He’s legit and will flat out burn ya. Not sure anyone is faster in CFB. Hurts hasn’t been throwing deep very much as I doubt LR truly trust him.

3. Also - the biggest story here is OU is 11 months removed from 4 OL getting drafted, the First WR taken in the draft and the #1 pick. Add to that, our starting TE retired and starting RB tore his ACL.

Yes - the offense isn’t as strong - nor should it be.

I think LR has to let Hurts throw down field this game in order to be a threat offensively. We have had some communication issues in the defensive backfield that has burned us. What makes Lamb so good is his yards after the catch. Chase is special as well. Jefferson and Marshall compliment him well
 
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I think LR has to let Hurts throw down field this game in order to be a threat offensively. We have had some communication issues in the defensive backfield that has burned us. What makes Lamb so good is his yards after the catch. Chase is special as well. Jefferson and Marshall compliment him well

You seem like a good dude. LSU is favored and they should be. I believe anybody that dismisses OU or thinks LSU is going to blow them out is misguided for any number of reasons. I feel good about chances to win, and honestly was hoping to draw them in the playoffs. I think they are the most difficult to game plan for so I would rather have the extra week of preparation and time to get healthy. Anyways, we will see. December 28th cannot get here soon enough. Good luck.
 

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A hard battle ahead for both. Barrow (Heisman winner) vs Hurts (Battleship).
Chase vs Lamb...Edwards-Helaire vs Brooks. On paper this looks like a shoot out. But I bet both defenses pin their ears back and bring it. Sooners must get a strong pass rush on Barrow to keep things tight. Hurts and his crew must not turnover the ball period.
 

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I come in peace

that has gotta be one of the best openers by a visitor i've read in all my years of sooner message boarding lsu-son. as the movie line goes, you had me at hello! we ALWAYS welcome a guest from "the other side" who doesnt berate or insult but wants to open a reasonable discourse about the upcoming game between us. my hot take on the game is that it is a deceptively good match-up. i would take ou and the points for sure. this ou team can get into a hole but they have the grit and the firepower to climb out as we saw against baylor. ah..but unfortunately the same is true if we get a big lead as we saw against iowa st and kstate.. turnovers mostly caused by jalen hurts kept us from winning big, winning at all or allowed teams to claw back when the games should not have been close.
you are going to get lincoln's best coaching effort this year, mainly because he has seemingly decided to shift from vertical air raid to a flat ground n pound attack that reduces risk..(or has he? he may out-think all of us who expect conservative play-calling). our two concerns are: joe burrows and slowing down a very potent lsu offense...and derek stingley, jr. and what will likely be a key match-up between the stout freshman and our best receiver ceedee lamb. if lamb gets stuffed, can jalen find another option when we throw the rare vertical pass or will lsu be able to load the box and shut us down. really good match up dec 28th at 3p only on espn which sux for me cuz i have to work and we dont got no cable!
 

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I honestly think Hurts has some injuries as stated elsewhere. Hasn’t tried many deep throws lately and when he does they aren’t well thrown. Injuries on the offensive side of the ball could be concerning. I really don’t think ground and pound will work against you guys,too much speed and we do have other threats if Hurts sees them and therein lies a problem ..he doesn’t see the field well and too often throws late. Defensively if we are healthy and can generate any kind of pass rush it might get interesting. Here’s for a few weeks of back and forth.
 

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A hard battle ahead for both. Barrow (Heisman winner) vs Hurts (Battleship).
Chase vs Lamb...Edwards-Helaire vs Brooks. On paper this looks like a shoot out. But I bet both defenses pin their ears back and bring it. Sooners must get a strong pass rush on Barrow to keep things tight. Hurts and his crew must not turnover the ball period.

Oh I agree on the pass rush for both teams. Burrow reads defenses so well and is deadly against the blitz. His pocket awareness is really good and doesn't flush from the pocket if he doesn't need to. You can't teach that in qb's IMO. Hurt is no pushover and will be playing on sundays as well. I would love to see Stingley on Lamb. No offense to Fulton, but Stingley is our best corner and it is hard to realize he is only a true freshman. Vincent is our weak link and usually is the one that is picked on.
 

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I come in peace and wanted to congratulate you on getting into the last 4. Wanted to state a few things. I read some of you think LSU will blow out OU. I for one don't think they will. Hell anyone has a chance in these one and done scenarios. I think OU's offense is still deadly even though they seemed to have cooled off recently. What's the reason in your opinion? Is it Hurt's and his ball security. LSU is peaking defensively. They played like dog crap for much of the season and looked unstoppable for some halfs in football games like the first half against Bama and the second half against Florida, but couldn't put a full game together until they played the aggies and Georgia. I guess better late than never. I really thought the Georgia game would be closer, but they had no answer for Burrow.

Hurts has struggled w/ turnovers so the thought was to remove as much as possible the INTs. My belief is that LSU has not peaked defensively but rather played two teams back to back. that have really bad offenses. Even w/ Hurts as the QB, the OU offense is much much better than Georgia or Aggie.

I was looking at the statistics between OU and Baylor and noticed one huge discrepency. Lamb had 173 receiving yards and the second highest only had 24. I think LSU will be able to slow Lamb down, but he is too good and will still get some yards. Are you concerned that others won't show up to pick up the slack receiving?

You must've looked at the 2nd game regarding Lamb. Because OU beat Baylor w/o Lamb the first go around and did so with some pretty young WRs. Wease comes to mind. I think they'll step up if everyone keys on Lamb.

My biggest concern from an LSU standpoint is Hurts ability to get yards with his feet. We have struggled with running qbs's. I know Aranda will have a plan in place, but it is still a concern. Hopefully we can try and get a few turnovers. Hurts has 13 turnovers all season. Here's to a great game free of injuries!

I'm not sure about LSU but OU is big time banged up. Hopefully time will heal what ails. LSU will be a handful but even with a predominantly young team, don't be baffled w/ the BS of the media... take the points. Can't wait to T it up to see how it plays out. Good game and good luck!
 

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"My belief is that LSU has not peaked defensively but rather played two teams back to back. that have really bad offenses."

I'll give you A&M, but Georgia was a good test for the defense. If you look at their rankings, they aren't a bad offensive team. They were ranked 60th overall. Average passing team, but great rushing team and LSU held them to 61 yards rushing which is well below their average.
 
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"My belief is that LSU has not peaked defensively but rather played two teams back to back. that have really bad offenses."

I'll give you A&M, but Georgia was a good test for the defense. If you look at their rankings, they aren't a bad offensive team. They were ranked 60th overall. Average passing team, but great rushing team and LSU held them to 61 yards rushing which is well below their average.

Where was A&M ranked offensively?
 

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I think LR has to let Hurts throw down field this game in order to be a threat offensively. We have had some communication issues in the defensive backfield that has burned us. What makes Lamb so good is his yards after the catch. Chase is special as well. Jefferson and Marshall compliment him well
Chase is insane good. He’s gonna go nuts vs our secondary.
All I want is Someone on OU’s OL to Knock Phillips Into the dirt and keep stompin. ;)
 

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And Georgia was about 60th? With a much better defense to help feed the offensive output? I am not sure why Georgia's offense is unequivocally a good test compared to A&M.

When you combine their defense, it was a good test for LSU in regards to stopping the run. Georgia had the #4 defense.
 
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Hurts seems to have lost a step running in the last handful of games, though not a peep about an injury. LR is tight-lipped as usual, and Jalen too good of a dude to even hint at an injury being an explanation/excuse. That's the only reason why one could reasonably explain the difference.

Let's just say 3 weeks of recuperation is a blessing. Our depth is paper-thin at so many positions: OT, RB (depending on Kennedy Brooks status), and CB. If we lose any more players, we'll be in a world of hurt.

But given a full roster of healthy players, it should be a good game.
 
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Opposing teams have a little better idea what to expect from OUr offense. But I think the biggest factor has been about personnel. Both of OUr starting OTackles have struggled to stay healthy. We've moved them around. OUr offense has been good enough. Because of a weakness at OT, Baylor was able to pressure us with a three man rush. Of course two of their three are the best two in the conference. 99 and 93 are experienced studs. 99 on the nose is a load.

We moved the ball pretty well on everybody else. With TCU, there was a lot of yards, but some freaky plays.

In the last two years we've played pretty solid offense in the semi's. Last year, we went too long with Hollywood, but he wasn't physically able to be who he was. When we put somebody less experienced, but healthy and scored 34 points in the last three quarters.

The year before against. Georgia, we scored 45 in regulation. Granted, seven came from the defense. But I believe that LR will have a game plan that will give us a chance to score on LSU, who is the weakest defense of the three SEC teams we will have faced.

This OU offense isn't quite as threatening as those two. But we will be good, if we get our guys healed up.
 

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Opposing teams have a little better idea what to expect from OUr offense. But I think the biggest factor has been about personnel. Both of OUr starting OTackles have struggled to stay healthy. We've moved them around. OUr offense has been good enough. Because of a weakness at OT, Baylor was able to pressure us with a three man rush. Of course two of their three are the best two in the conference. 99 and 93 are experienced studs. 99 on the nose is a load.

We moved the ball pretty well on everybody else. With TCU, there was a lot of yards, but some freaky plays.

In the last two years we've played pretty solid offense in the semi's. Last year, we went too long with Hollywood, but he wasn't physically able to be who he was. When we put somebody less experienced, but healthy and scored 34 points in the last three quarters.

The year before against. Georgia, we scored 45 in regulation. Granted, seven came from the defense. But I believe that LR will have a game plan that will give us a chance to score on LSU, who is the weakest defense of the three SEC teams we will have faced.

This OU offense isn't quite as threatening as those two. But we will be good, if we get our guys healed up.

You will have to keep an eye out for Tyler Shelvin. He has been playing real good inside as our run stuffer. Usually takes up 2 lineman blocking him and still holds his own. Also Aranda is finally utilizing Chaisson the right way. For a good part of the season Aranda wanted the ends to rush but try to keep containment. We weren't getting consistent pressure on the qb. Chaisson is stunting more and seems to be getting a lot of pressure on opposing qb's.

I have no doubt Oklahoma will show up offensively.
 
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This OU team and the Big XII this season, reminds me a lot of the 2000 season. We were undefeated then, but we beat a very good KState team twice, including in the CCG. KState was underrated, even though they had beaten Nebraska to win the North. The Huskers had been ranked number one during the year, before OU beat them.

We went into the NC game with Florida St with all sorts of complaining about the best team not being in the game. When FSU played Miami during the regular season, the Canes won on another Nole Wide Right. But it happened at Miami, with Weinke dealing with a bad ankle, barely able to move. FSU was better, but got beat, barely. Miami had lost earlier at UDub, who also only had one loss.

All this as background. Despite being the only undefeated P5 team in the country, OU was a double digit dog to the Seminoles. People just didn't think that the Sooners could compete with all those Florida State athletes, and their prolific offense. They were defending national champions. We shut out their offense. It was a different time.

But my point is that like 2000, the Big XII was an underrated conference. And I'd add that the SEC this season was quite overrated. The team in OUr conference who finished in a four way tie for third at 5-4 in the conference, lost to LSU by a touchdown, despite one healthy running back and losing half of their DB's during the game. The Horns were a pretty good team. But Baylor kicked their butts worse than LSU.

In 2000, KState played Tennessee in the Cotton Bowl. UTenn lost narrowly to SEC champ Florida by 4. They lost in OT at LSU, the 2nd place team in the West. KState beat them soundly. I can't remember the the color analyst, but there was a ton of tv talk, kind of like now, about how FSU was going to beat OU soundly. The color man in Dallas threw in an editorial about how KState beat a really good UTenn team bad, and how OU beat KSU once in Manhattan and once for the CCG in Kansas City. Maybe, he said, the Sooners are a little better than they're being given credit for.

I believe that is the case this season. OU glided through the non conference. But the Big XII this year is rugged. Credit won't be given while the talking heads are fawning over teams like Georgia and Florida from the East. But the Sooners are a battle tested team. We didn't show as much improvement as LSU maybe because we had a tougher conference schedule.

We'll see, December 28.
 
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We went into the NC game with Florida St with all sorts of complaining about the best team not being in the game. When FSU played Miami during the regular season, the Canes won on another Nole Wide Right. But it happened at Miami, with Weinke dealing with a bad ankle, barely able to move. FSU was better, but got beat, barely. Miami had lost earlier at UDub, who also only had one loss.
Most non-OU fans won't remember that OU was undefeated going in to the game and FSU had a loss.
Those clamoring for Miami to be in based on their game against FSU, didn't realize that would mean FSU would the one who was out.
 

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I come in peace and wanted to congratulate you on getting into the last 4. Wanted to state a few things. I read some of you think LSU will blow out OU. I for one don't think they will. Hell anyone has a chance in these one and done scenarios. I think OU's offense is still deadly even though they seemed to have cooled off recently. What's the reason in your opinion? Is it Hurt's and his ball security. LSU is peaking defensively. They played like dog crap for much of the season and looked unstoppable for some halfs in football games like the first half against Bama and the second half against Florida, but couldn't put a full game together until they played the aggies and Georgia. I guess better late than never. I really thought the Georgia game would be closer, but they had no answer for Burrow.

I was looking at the statistics between OU and Baylor and noticed one huge discrepency. Lamb had 173 receiving yards and the second highest only had 24. I think LSU will be able to slow Lamb down, but he is too good and will still get some yards. Are you concerned that others won't show up to pick up the slack receiving?

My biggest concern from an LSU standpoint is Hurts ability to get yards with his feet. We have struggled with running qbs's. I know Aranda will have a plan in place, but it is still a concern. Hopefully we can try and get a few turnovers. Hurts has 13 turnovers all season. Here's to a great game free of injuries!
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