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TU Sepp

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The Big 12 is not the federal government...

Houston would be a welfare case...

They look at the Big 12 as "entitlement"....

Sorry Coog High the Big 12 is a conference that you have to earn your way into...

Entitlement only works with welfare!!!!
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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It's Coog High. Calling that place a Community College is giving them way too much credit.

And Bill Yeoman and Larry Gatlin still suck.
 

TU_BLA

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Reality Bites is about some UH grads. I hated that movie...Of course they are all lost in life and what to do post-graduation. Way to prepare them UH
 

TU_BLA

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Plus, there's only 1 school in the entire Big XII that wants Houston and that is Iowa St and that's because Iowa State would finally have someone to look down the standings at.

If Houston is so powerful and deserving of a P5 conference, let them do what BYU did until that berth comes along. Go independent. Let's see if you get the same deal BYU got?
 

texcane1982

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"Put pressure on the presidents;, say, 'If you don't do this, we're not going to fund you for this,'" Fertitta said in a meeting with the Houston Chronicle's editorial board Thursday. "It's just the way it is. That's the way to do it."



Fertitta said it's "an embarrassment" that the namesake university of the fourth largest city in the United States has not been welcomed into the conference.


I didn't realize UH had organized crime goons on their board?


The schools of the old Big 8 probably roo the day they invited with the "devil"...err, I mean SWC.


TX



This post was edited on 2/24 8:24 PM by texcane1982
 

TU 1978

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Originally posted by texcane1982:





"Put pressure on the presidents;, say, 'If you don't do this, we're not going to fund you for this,'" Fertitta said in a meeting with the Houston Chronicle's editorial board Thursday. "It's just the way it is. That's the way to do it."


Fertitta said it's "an embarrassment" that the namesake university of the fourth largest city in the United States has not been welcomed into the conference.


I didn't realize UH had organized crime goons on their board?





Tilman Fertita and organized crime are not mutually exclusive terms. He's in bed with Golden Nugget in Lake Charles.
 

TU_BLA

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Originally posted by TU 1978:

Originally posted by texcane1982:





"Put pressure on the presidents;, say, 'If you don't do this, we're not going to fund you for this,'" Fertitta said in a meeting with the Houston Chronicle's editorial board Thursday. "It's just the way it is. That's the way to do it."

Fertitta said it's "an embarrassment" that the namesake university of the fourth largest city in the United States has not been welcomed into the conference.


I didn't realize UH had organized crime goons on their board?




Tilman Fertita and organized crime are not mutually exclusive terms. He's in bed with Golden Nugget in Lake Charles.
Heck any of the former board of Enron can be considered organized crime lords.
 

TUBballJunkie

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Originally posted by TU 1978:

Originally posted by texcane1982:



Fertitta said it's "an embarrassment" that the namesake university of the fourth largest city in the United States has not been welcomed into the conference.
Wth does that have to do with anything?

Los Angeles is the only city in the top twenty largest with its name in a school of a BCS conference.
 

TUBballJunkie

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And that really shouldn't count since it's the U of Cal system anyway. Not the U of LA.

Boston, Miami, and Louisville are the only top 50 largest cities that fit that bill. And I'm guessing people in those cities actually watch/attend games of the related schools.

Just stupid.

This post was edited on 2/25 11:32 AM by TUBballJunkie
 

TU_BLA

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Originally posted by TUBballJunkie:
And that really shouldn't count since it's the U of Cal system anyway. Not the U of LA.

Boston, Miami, and Louisville are the only top 50 largest cities that fit that bill. And I'm guessing people in those cities actually watch/attend games of the related schools.

Just stupid.

This post was edited on 2/25 11:32 AM by TUBballJunkie
Outside of college hockey, Boston is not really a college sports town. BC comes close to capacity but it actually has a pretty small stadium for BCS standards (about 44k). Basketball is hit or miss there as well. BUT...Hockey East games between Boston U and Boston College are always maxed and crazy.

And if you want to get technical....UCLA is not really in Los Angeles
 

TU_BLA

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Originally posted by CougarKing:
You guys sound jealous.
This is where the Coug HigH education fails you. It's not jealousy...it's incredulousness.

Incredulous: unwilling or unable to believe something

In a sentence: Tulsa fans are incredulous that this fool in Houston thinks they are worthy of being in the Big XII given their recent history.

Who cares if you have 35,000 students who all commute? Only 75 of them show up to basketball games and not many more show up to football games.
 

CougarKing

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You're just upset that nobody in your administration nor are any politicians in the Oklahoma legislature is doing anything to get Tulsa P5 status. There was an espn article that came out yesterday ranking the Top 5 G5 jobs. UH was only behind BYU and Cincinnati. Plus espn also said we were a natural fit for the Big 12. There's also been talking in various articles and on Houston sports radio shows about us and the Big 12. I don't see anybody in Tulsa or in general talking about your school.


Oh and let's also keep in mind that if we leave, the AAC's media contract gets renegotiated
 

TU_BLA

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Originally posted by CougarKing:
You're just upset that nobody in your administration nor are any politicians in the Oklahoma legislature is doing anything to get Tulsa P5 status. There was an espn article that came out yesterday ranking the Top 5 G5 jobs. UH was only behind BYU and Cincinnati. Plus espn also said we were a natural fit for the Big 12. There's also been talking in various articles and on Houston sports radio shows about us and the Big 12. I don't see anybody in Tulsa or in general talking about your school.


Oh and let's also keep in mind that if we leave, the AAC's media contract gets renegotiated
ESPN...the place that also reported a bunch of falsities about Deflate-gate. ESPN will spout that because of TV market...don't think for a second it has anything to do with the University of Houston. You could call it the University of Citgo Oil Conglomerate of Venezuelan dictators and if it was located in the middle of 6M TV sets, they would say that's a great fit.

And I know you haven't been watching basketball on ESPN because we're mentioned every night by Lunardi. When was the last time anyone said anything about Houston basketball that wasn't related to who they got hammered by?
 

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Just my opinion , but if the Big-12 does expand Houston would be a possibility. If the Big-12 were to expand to 12 schools, the Big-12 would need to go east and find a partner school for WVU, probably University Cincinnati, and then would also want a school in the current area, UH or SMU would be the two logical schools to look at. If the Big-12 went to 14, then I think they would also look west and maybe grab BYU and either CSU or Boise.......but they would probably still want one more school in the current area, again UH or SMU..........Memphis would be the only other real possibility unless you could convince Arkansas, which is doubtful
 

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The problem with both Houston AND Dallas is that the Big 12 would have to fight pro sports for attention and I doubt they want that battle. Noone in Big 12 wants to go to war with the Cowboys, Texans or Rockets or Mavs thats for sure. UH and SMU have attendence problems because of the pro competition. And look at the footprint - most of the Big 12 schools are located in places that don't have direct competition with Pro teams. And moving into Dallas/Houston wouldn't help with FB contracts - they already OWN college sports in Texas. What they need are teams in the east to help out WV. No, UH and SMU wouldn't help them where they need the help. They need Mizzou back and probably Nebraska to expand their TV territory and they need to stay out of the SEC south. I think BYU is a possibility in FB to capture an audience in the west, but that only gives them 11. But what they need the most is a revision in the rules to allow a 10 team league to have a championship game. Thats a solution. It shows a glitch in the thinking process of CFB and the manipulation going on at the top. CFB was supposed to be inclusive with more teams and programs allowed a chance to win on merit, not money, and yes, it is an exclusionary cartel of biased fans (see Pat Jones), and manipulation by those who want total control. But it is the system we have and have to live with at the moment. TU will survive regardless and TU sports will only get better. All the talk about too many bowls and too many games is ridiculous. There isn't a FB fan in america that wants LESS CFB. As long as that is with us, TU is going to be fine.

BTW, I think there is a better possibilty the Big 12 breaks up and some schools join other conferences rather than the Big 12 adding SMU and UH. And it may come down to OU having an opportunity to go to the SEC w Texas and leaving the Cowboys behind. OSU to the ACC? No, the thinking heads at ESPN want a four team playoff and just four conferences and they could care less about everyone else. I think there are more "realignments" to come.
 

TU_BLA

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Rabid, the new TV deals that most of the conferences have are very restrictive in terms of schools being able to leave. ACC, SEC., B1G, PAC-# all have their schools agree to this rights deal and it's more than just the exit fees. I don't know if the Big XII has this same rights agreement in place. It's not happening any time soon.
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COWBOYintheUK

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Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Rabid, the new TV deals that most of the conferences have are very restrictive in terms of schools being able to leave. ACC, SEC., B1G, PAC-# all have their schools agree to this rights deal and it's more than just the exit fees. I don't know if the Big XII has this same rights agreement in place. It's not happening any time soon.
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The Big-12 was the first conference to put that in place. They have a "Grant of rights agreement", where if any school leaves that school forfeits their TV and bowl revenue to the Big-12 for I believe 5 years
 

JesseTU

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The Big12 wants the dozens of basketball attendees at Houston games as well as the credibility of once being good. Hell, they just won the conference 5 years ago. That makes for once in the last 20+ years they appeared in the NCAA. (1 less than Lamar)

In football the Big12 craves the prowess from winning the conference championship in CUSA once every 20 years (same number as Rice). Not too mention the 20-30k fans filling the brand new stadium half to 2/3rds full. Just last year they were the 6th or 7th best team in the state!

Then of course there is the prestige of being affiliated with the second best college in Houston, and the 9th best in the State. Hell, Houston is inside the top 200 nationally!

I think the discussion of adding Houston is totally merit based. It has nothing to do with being a giant public university that happens to be in a mega city. They have earned respect and their cash generating athletic machine should be ready to cash in!

Seriously, what's with Texas schools wanting to destroy conferences? You JUST got here and aren't exactly dominating. Calm down and compete.
 

HHOOTter

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Originally posted by COWBOYintheUK:

Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Rabid, the new TV deals that most of the conferences have are very restrictive in terms of schools being able to leave. ACC, SEC., B1G, PAC-# all have their schools agree to this rights deal and it's more than just the exit fees. I don't know if the Big XII has this same rights agreement in place. It's not happening any time soon.
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The Big-12 was the first conference to put that in place. They have a "Grant of rights agreement", where if any school leaves that school forfeits their TV and bowl revenue to the Big-12 for I believe 5 years
Logistics wise,
Big 12 is already BIG in Houston
& in the Dallas Market Place.
They don't need Univ of Houston or SMU
2 capture the Houston/Dallas Market
Big 12 gets BIG coverage already down there

Plus,
W/ The greater Houston/Dallas area putting out
somewhere around 60-70, D-1 recruits per year.
U thunk, Big 12 wants Houston/SMU to have a P5 school too?
In the middle of one of the most fertile recruiting areas in the country?
They already have to deal w/ LSU, Ark, & A&M & the Big 12 Brethren,

No way does Big 12 add SMU/Houston
In 2 areas
they Are Already inbedded in & well established
There is no advantage 4 the Big 12 in adding either school.

Bottom line, neither schools will ADD xtra TV/$$$ to the other Big 12 institutions
 

TU_BLA

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Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Houston is spouting their over-inflated image of themselves again.

http://www.chron.com/local/education/campus-chronicles/article/UH-should-be-in-Big-12-board-chair-says-6089909.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Honestly Cougs, you can't even get 1,000 people to a basketball game against the #1 teams in the conference. That's what the Big XII wants on TV...an empty arena AND Kelvin Sampson back.
BYU will get added before Houston and/or SMU. Additionally, to appease WVa who has been left out in no man's land in this conference, they will need to attract another eastern school. Memphis makes the most sense actually, more so than Cincinnati (IMO).

If someone from current AAC jumps (or if 2) look to add for basketball only...maybe a SLU and then continue with 10 or 11. The conference championship game for the AAC will, IMO, do more harm than good in the long run. As it gives the opportunity for the highest ranked G5 to screw up before the 1/1 bowls are announced. I fully expect the highest ranked G5 to come from the American the next 4-5 seasons.