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Been to several games this year and have gotten there early....watched DA come out early last night and he made 13 threes in a row and 16 of 19.....He shoots like this every time I get there early

Then in the game..... :(
 
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bbnkat02

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Allen is always put in a very bad position. It’s difficult to be put in the game and every time expected to immediately knock down perimeter shots. He, like every player, needs to be given the opportunity to break a sweat and get into the flow of the game.
Cal himself has said Allen doesn’t have to just knock down shots. Th air ball didn’t get him pulled. It was the lack of guarding and stepping out of bounds all in three minutes last night. Just was not a good game for Allen yesterday.
 
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Allen is always put in a very bad position. It’s difficult to be put in the game and every time expected to immediately knock down perimeter shots. He, like every player, needs to be given the opportunity to break a sweat and get into the flow of the game.
Stop. I want to see Dontaie succeed more than anyone but the fact is he is athletically limited. When he’s not knocking down shots, he’s a liability. That is just a sad fact.
 

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Stop. I want to see Dontaie succeed more than anyone but the fact is he is athletically limited. When he’s not knocking down shots, he’s a liability. That is just a sad fact.
That doesn’t change what I posted in any way. It’s difficult for any player to be put in a game and immediately be expected to knock down threes. That shouldn’t be difficult to understand, and I’m not one of the posters pushing for more time for Allen. I’m just posting rationally. I don’t care who gets minutes.
 
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Allen is always put in a very bad position. It’s difficult to be put in the game and every time expected to immediately knock down perimeter shots. He, like every player, needs to be given the opportunity to break a sweat and get into the flow of the game.
He solve the rhythm and timing issue by inserting a natural basketball move ahead of the shot. For example, some players jab step then shoot, or some fake and sidestep dribble into the shot.
 

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Cal himself has said Allen doesn’t have to just knock down shots. Th air ball didn’t get him pulled. It was the lack of guarding and stepping out of bounds all in three minutes last night. Just was not a good game for Allen yesterday.
No, it wasn’t a good game for him, but how much floor time did he get after that 3 minute or so stretch? Wheeler had a subpar game as well, but he sure gotta lot more than a few minutes. Again, I’m not an Allen homer. I’m just pointing out the inconsistencies when it comes to his playing time.
 

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No, it wasn’t a good game for him, but how much floor time did he get after that 3 minute or so stretch? Wheeler had a subpar game as well, but he sure gotta lot more than a few minutes. Again, I’m not an Allen homer. I’m just pointing out the inconsistencies when it comes to his playing time.

Allen isn't a PG. TyTy is the backup PG so if Wheeler needs a break TyTy will play for him.
 
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Been to several games this year and have gotten there early....watched DA come out early last night and he made 13 threes in a row and 16 of 19.....He shoots like this every time I get there early

Then in the game..... :(
I'm an old man and can hit about 7 of every 10 three pointers when nobody is guarding me and I don't have to chase down my own ball.
 
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ala_kat2

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Allen is always put in a very bad position. It’s difficult to be put in the game and every time expected to immediately knock down perimeter shots. He, like every player, needs to be given the opportunity to break a sweat and get into the flow of the game.
But if he doesn’t shoot it, he’s coming out! (Cal)
 
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Been to several games this year and have gotten there early....watched DA come out early last night and he made 13 threes in a row and 16 of 19.....He shoots like this every time I get there early

Then in the game..... :(
I've also seen Allen in pre-games usually looking like the best pure shooter on the team. But not in that North Florida game. He couldn't hit anything in the pregame warm-ups (although quite a few were blocked by the basketballs of other shooters). I commented on it to the person I was at the game with, and since then he has continued to be in a funk. It happens to great shooters, and he'll come out of it. But I think Allen is in a real slump right now.
 

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No, it wasn’t a good game for him, but how much floor time did he get after that 3 minute or so stretch? Wheeler had a subpar game as well, but he sure gotta lot more than a few minutes. Again, I’m not an Allen homer. I’m just pointing out the inconsistencies when it comes to his playing time.
You are going to have less margin for error when you don't bring as much to the table. I agree Sahvir played what looked like maybe his worst game of the year, but you're going to have more leash when you're able to help the team in more ways than just shooting. It makes sense to have your better players on the floor.
 
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All the guys aren’t given the same opportunity PERIOD
Same with Willis, same with Mulder, and others. 3 minutes isn’t much of a chance. Not sure Id agree with the “too many players in front of him” theory. I mean, look at the damn score. Should win the game by 50. Some players play with a 50 feet leash while some play with a choker collar. FACT. Cal picks who he wants to get the most run and goes with it. I’d like to see Dontaie get 25-30 minutes a couple games and I’ll bet his stats would equal those who get the minutes now. He did last year as Cal got exposed.
 

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It’s amazing the leash some want Allen to have. Let’s just leave him in there so he can get a feel for the game, meanwhile airballing 3s, fouling 3 pt shooters, stepping out of bounds.. if he plays more we probably are down 10 points by the time he does something positive.
 

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All the guys aren’t given the same opportunity PERIOD
Same with Willis, same with Mulder, and others. 3 minutes isn’t much of a chance. Not sure Id agree with the “too many players in front of him” theory. I mean, look at the damn score. Should win the game by 50. Some players play with a 50 feet leash while some play with a choker collar. FACT. Cal picks who he wants to get the most run and goes with it. I’d like to see Dontaie get 25-30 minutes a couple games and I’ll bet his stats would equal those who get the minutes now. He did last year as Cal got exposed.
You are right, as the coach Cal does pick who gets the most run. They are called the best basketball players on the team. Unfortunately for Allen, he's not one of them at this point.
 
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I don’t know how you could have watched the last 5 games and think Allen has been deserving of more minutes. Against the worst competition we will play this year at that.

Allen will be a great player for us one day if he sticks with it, which I’m sure he will.
 
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bbnkat02

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All the guys aren’t given the same opportunity PERIOD
Same with Willis, same with Mulder, and others. 3 minutes isn’t much of a chance. Not sure Id agree with the “too many players in front of him” theory. I mean, look at the damn score. Should win the game by 50. Some players play with a 50 feet leash while some play with a choker collar. FACT. Cal picks who he wants to get the most run and goes with it. I’d like to see Dontaie get 25-30 minutes a couple games and I’ll bet his stats would equal those who get the minutes now. He did last year as Cal got exposed.
By 50? Oh. You’re one of THOSE UK fans.

The line was only 22 I believe. Maybe 25.

This isn’t the 80s-90s anymore where these smaller Div 1 schools don’t have any talent. The transfer portals saw an end to that. UF lost to the fourth place SWAC team. We played the likely conference champ last night. Duke beat Campbell by 11.

Yeah, we did not play well last night and still won by double digits. Hit our damn FTs and we win closer to 20, which is right around the line. And yea we should’ve won by more. But 50 is not realistic, especially coming of our injuries and illness.

We’ve got crap to fix and I’m more concerned about how Cal is going to force this team to play, but blowing teams out by 50 (especially decently defensive teams like last night) just doesn’t happen much for anyone anymore.
 

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Allen is always put in a very bad position. It’s difficult to be put in the game and every time expected to immediately knock down perimeter shots. He, like every player, needs to be given the opportunity to break a sweat and get into the flow of the game.
Go read the play-by-play for both the North Florida and Central Michigan games. He was shooting like crap but Cal left him in both games because he was doing other things well. Played a total of 19 min each game.

Late in the 2nd half against CMU, Cal put Allen in with 4:34 remaining despite the fact that he was 0-6 from the field at the time, and let him finish the game. He played because he was rebounding, finishing with 6. This is exactly what Cal has said he's looking for from Allen, and voila, when Allen rebounds (and does other good things, like not turning the ball over and not committing stupid fouls) he plays.

Last night, in his limited minutes, he did nothing well, and it was a close game. I don't blame Cal for not leaving him in longer.