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Mr Schwump

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Any new names cropping up? Saw the Ed Reed thing may have some legs, anybody else?
 
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KyCatFan1

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As much as I like Ed Harris the actor, don't think he would be a good DB coach. Assume you meant Ed Reed?

He has head coaching experience in South Carolina. Sign him up.


I know it was a typo. Just messing with you OP.
 

TJS4UK

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He has head coaching experience in South Carolina. Sign him up.

If it is Harris, UK may have a connection. A couple of TL Hannah alums played @ UK, including Raphael Little. Also, the real "Radio" led the Wildcats out onto the field before a game.
 
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KyCatFan1

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Would a big name former pro player with less coaching experience be better for us for recruiting purposes since Coach Stoops is experienced in coaching DB's? Or is it better to get a very experienced coach with less name recognition?
 

Mr Schwump

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Would a big name former pro player with less coaching experience be better for us for recruiting purposes since Coach Stoops is experienced in coaching DB's? Or is it better to get a very experienced coach with less name recognition?

Seems to me with so many young DBs it'd be better to have a teacher than a recruiter. Of course, in a perfect world, it'd be good to have a guy who was good at both.
 

TJS4UK

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Would a big name former pro player with less coaching experience be better for us for recruiting purposes since Coach Stoops is experienced in coaching DB's? Or is it better to get a very experienced coach with less name recognition?

IDK. Stoops is a DB coach, so maybe you'd want a big name recruiter, a guy who has had a lot of experience playing the position, but maybe not much (or any) experience coaching it.

Since Ansley recruited Alabama, I would think that it might be a positive if his replacement had some roots in Alabama. However, Brumbaugh has some Alabama roots, so maybe that's not a big deal. Also, if S Florida opens up (Gran, Thomas & Hinshaw), we may no longer recruit Alabama too hard anyway. That said, a big name coach will get in a whole lot of doors no matter where they go to recruit.
 

DaBossIsBack

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Kirk Callahan? Just got canned at Florida, but is a young coach that's going places. He has a strong connection to the Tampa Bay Area because of his father.
 

TJS4UK

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I posted this link in another thread. This guy has no connection to Stoops, but he was at Miami U at the same time as Thomas & Gran. He was an NFL player, Pro Bowler, a FL native, and he is coaching safety's at the highest level of HS football. Obviously he knows the Broward and Dade county areas. No idea if he is being considered or if he'd even want to leave FL, but check out the link...

http://www.aquinasfootball.com/coach-williams.html
 

TJS4UK

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Kirk Callahan? Just got canned at Florida, but is a young coach that's going places. He has a strong connection to the Tampa Bay Area because of his father.

I don't know much about the situation, but if he was not considered to be good enough for FL to keep, that is a pretty big red flag, IMHO.
 

jauk11

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Is it a good idea to have ALL of our coaches from Florida? Great talent, but expensive trips and a long way from home for the recruits, lots of talent closer to home. The Bear got most of his All Americans from western Pennsylvania, for instance, who do we have in the state we have recruited hardest in the past, Georgia?
 

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I don't know much about the situation, but if he was not considered to be good enough for FL to keep, that is a pretty big red flag, IMHO.

I don't either. Doesn't necessarily mean he did a bad job. He could have just been let go to make room for someone they wanted more. His dad coaches or coached (not sure) Armwood in Tampa. Armwood typically puts out a lot of major D1 talent every year. Tampa in general puts out a ton of D1 talent. Just throwing his name out there. Not saying we are actually even considering him.
 
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DACats86

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As far as Callahan, he has some tie to Heargraves. Apparently it was well-known that once Heargraves left, so did Callahan.
But, I am a little disappointed in you guys, As much as (some) UK fans like re-treads, I'm surprised that Rick Smith or Wesley McGriff haven't been brought up! Maybe Terrell Buckley just wanted to get away from Bobby, and would welcome the chance to coach (again) with his friend, Lamar? Wouldn't that send the UofL fans into a tizzy...
 

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As far as Callahan, he has some tie to Heargraves. Apparently it was well-known that once Heargraves left, so did Callahan.
But, I am a little disappointed in you guys, As much as (some) UK fans like re-treads, I'm surprised that Rick Smith or Wesley McGriff haven't been brought up! Maybe Terrell Buckley just wanted to get away from Bobby, and would welcome the chance to coach (again) with his friend, Lamar? Wouldn't that send the UofL fans into a tizzy...

Buckley was a GA at FSU when Stoops was the DC. I highly doubt he leaves a job he just took though.
 

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Is it a good idea to have ALL of our coaches from Florida? Great talent, but expensive trips and a long way from home for the recruits, lots of talent closer to home. The Bear got most of his All Americans from western Pennsylvania, for instance, who do we have in the state we have recruited hardest in the past, Georgia?
There is no better place in the country to recruit than GA &Fla..I think a lot of their 2*-3* are better than 4* from north...Danny T-Wesley Woodyard
 

JHB4UK

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Is it a good idea to have ALL of our coaches from Florida?
Vince Marrow is still on the payroll jauk
Great talent, but expensive trips and a long way from home for the recruits, lots of talent closer to home.
Florida talent closer to Lexington? Huh? No, not the quantity or quality.
who do we have in the state we have recruited hardest in the past, Georgia?
obviously someone since we have 5 nonseniors on the roster from Georgia & signed 2 more. obviously not as much an emphasis as Kentucky, Ohio, and what Florida is going to be in the near future.
 
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TJS4UK

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Is it a good idea to have ALL of our coaches from Florida?

No. Vince Marrow & John Schlarman are currently bringing over half of the signing class from Ohio & Ky. No reason to believe that wont continue. Buh, Brumbaugh & Eliot are currently recruiting areas outside of Ohio, KY & FL, so by no means would all of the chips be stacked in FL recruiting. Plus, with that many guys covering FL, some of them can also lightly recruit other areas. Hinshaw has coached at several schools in TN, Gran has coached in AL & MS, Thomas is a well known NFL name who could likely recruit anywhere, etc. Gran & Hinshaw could also make quick trips up into OH, where they have recently been coaches.

Outside of Ohio, KY & possibly S Florida, history suggests that, at best, UK is only going to be able to spot recruit all of the other areas for elite talent. By heavily targeting S Florida (which is actually just outside of the heart of the SEC footprint), UK may be able to cherry pick a few players that they might not be able to land in the heart of SEC Country. And often times, even the leftovers in FL, are better than the leftovers in GA, AL, MS, SC, TN, etc.

As far as it being expensive to recruit FL, I would think that by sending more coaches down at once, that UK could potentially reduce the expense. Also, due to recruiting more kids from that area, several players could then share rides (or make bus trips) to UK, so that should make it more affordable on the players end too. The same coaches could easily stop in select schools in GA and/or AL, on the way down or on the way back, further increasing efficiency.

Furthermore, WKU currently has 27 players from FL (31% of an 85 roster). UL has only a few less. That is about 7-8 FL players per every 25 man signing class. They both used to have more FL players than that. If they can do it, why can't UK? Not to mention that they were both beating UK with those FL players.

Anyway, if UK can sign 14 total (or more) from KY & Ohio every year & then also sign another 6-8 from FL, that is 20-22 players in each class. If they can find a handful of recruits from GA, AL, TN, MI, DMV, NJ or Juco, they can easily fill a class, IMHO.
 
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TJS4UK

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Maybe Terrell Buckley just wanted to get away from Bobby, and would welcome the chance to coach (again) with his friend, Lamar? Wouldn't that send the UofL fans into a tizzy...

Buckley would've been a solid candidate, IMHO. But, I don't think that he's going to want to leave a brand new job (Miss St) for probably the same reasons that Ed Reed didn't.

Darryl Williams (linked above) would be very interesting, but he may want to stay close to his home. A former NFL guy may not need the $$$. He may just be coaching HS simply because he likes doing it.
 
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Rhavic

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Looks like they are going after Grady Brown,ex So Carol DB coach,good recuiter in Fla

Not quite. Grady Brown came from South Carolina on his own dime to show his interest in the job and interview.
 

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As far as Callahan, he has some tie to Heargraves. Apparently it was well-known that once Heargraves left, so did Callahan.
But, I am a little disappointed in you guys, As much as (some) UK fans like re-treads, I'm surprised that Rick Smith or Wesley McGriff haven't been brought up! Maybe Terrell Buckley just wanted to get away from Bobby, and would welcome the chance to coach (again) with his friend, Lamar? Wouldn't that send the UofL fans into a tizzy...
Well, Mike Cassity's at WKU ready and able for Round 3 coaching at UK? He's only about 70 years old or so, huh, perfect!
 
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jauk11

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Well, if you could still do such things without a court order (or being declared offsides) I would do some research on the matter, but I am pretty sure we had more players from Georgia on our team roster quite a few years than we did from Kentucky, definitely more than from any other state outside of Kentucky. Of course Ohio dominates our recruiting now-----like it probably should have for years.