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Snake98

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It's obvious moving Mike Stoops upstairs is paying huge dividends. Most likely not his decision (or Bob's for that matter). After bashing Mike the last couple of years and after Texas this year, need to give him *s for his game plans the last two weeks (assume they were his but you never know after the Texas screwup). Anyway, he has the defense heading in the right direction in a big way. We will see if he can keep it up against Baylor who has always lit him up.

Atta boy Mike!
 
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I didn't see much DC problem against Texas. These days, if you score only 17, you don't win many of those.
 
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I would suggest not being able to stop a one dimensional offense is a problem; the exception being a dominating offense which Texas is not.
 

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Except for the total team debacle in the RRS, so far so good on D. I agree that moving Mike upstairs has been part of the turnaround with the D, compared to last year. I'm thinking Mike is seeing the field better, picking up on some of their tendencies and making adjustments that slow down the opposing offenses.

So far in the second half, OU has given up:
10 to Tech (0 in 4Q)
0 to KSU
10 to the horns
17 to WVU (0 in 4Q)
10 to Tulsa
7 to Tennessee
0 to Akron
 

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I didn't see much DC problem against Texas. These days, if you score only 17, you don't win many of those.
We couldn't stop a team that we KNEW was going to be one dimensional. The players were not prepared for the Swoopes pass for a touchdown. I'd say the
DC was part of the problem.
 

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Again you are either lying or intentionally exaggerating. I never said the DC was MOST of the problem. In fact, if you take the time to read, I said they were "part of the problem". Do you have so much pride that you can't let yourself admit when you are wrong? The DC was part of the problem like it or not
 
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The problem against Texas was Mike keeping the defense in a 2-4-5 for prolly 2/3s of the game against a team that posed almost zero threat to pass the ball. Norvell had to be laughing his *** off when he saw Mike wasnt making adjustments. It was amplified by some poor tackling, but OU being soft up the middle against the run was a far bigger issue. Texas lined up and ran the ball down OUs throat. So not sure how ANYONE could watch that game and not see an issue with the DC. I'm not saying the defense was to blame for that loss, but good grief, to not adjust was the definition of incompetence.

But even then, and I said this the day of the game, that the defense STILL held Texas to enough points that OU should have won the game. Scoring 17pts in this league isn't going to cut it. Well...except maybe against KSU or Kansas.
 
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The way I see it, when the D saw they couldn't stop UT's running early, they became deflated and things only worsened. I know, Captain Obvious. Then, the fumbled KO that led to UT's 2nd TD ripped our morale to shreds.

The O was fighting an uphill battle from that point against a very aggressive and fired up UT D. Things not only worsened on our D side but also with the O. We allowed UT to become sky high emotionally in a historically emotional rivalry. Not always does the best team win. But, the team facing the greater adversity as the game progresses will most likely lose. You could see it in our continued play.

The OL woes have a great deal to do with our offensive performances. So goes the OL, so goes the O. The more inferior the competition, the better the performances. We haven't yet approached the "meat" of our schedule. The defenses and offenses we'll play at the end of our schedule are not patsies.

Don't put all that much stock in beating hapless KSU (injuries) and TT (one of the worst D's in Div I).
Mike's true tests will be the last 3 games on the schedule. All 3 are ahead of us in the polls.

Hope we come "ready" to play in all aspects of our game.

Boomer Sooner
 

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We couldn't stop a team that we KNEW was going to be one dimensional. The players were not prepared for the Swoopes pass for a touchdown. I'd say the
DC was part of the problem.
OU knew actually what K State was going to do and stuffed them and Tech who was a top 3 offense in the country got shut down... The D is really good! What do you have to say now oh wise one??
 
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OU knew actually what K State was going to do and stuffed them and Tech who was a top 3 offense in the country got shut down... The D is really good! What do you have to say now oh wise one??

Oh man, if I were were flaming gay, I'd could go for you...

I'm not so...take it down a notch.:D
 

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OU knew actually what K State was going to do and stuffed them and Tech who was a top 3 offense in the country got shut down... The D is really good! What do you have to say now oh wise one??

I would venture to say Mike Stoops learned not to go full retard like he did in the Texas game.
 

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I would venture to say Mike Stoops learned not to go full retard like he did in the Texas game.
Really....what did the offensive coordinator do...go back to the motel?.I blame that whole game on the offense and special teams....blame whom you want, those are my choices.
 

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Really....what did the offensive coordinator do...go back to the motel?.I blame that whole game on the offense and special teams....blame whom you want, those are my choices.
I put more blame on the offense as well. As horrid as it was, the defense still kept the game within reach. Or who knows, had Mike actually made some adjustments, the defense maybe could have held Texas to below 17pts?? And looks like the offense learned not to go full retard after the Texas game as well. Not gonna win many games in the Big XII with 17pts. The team got kicked in the mouth in the cotton bowl and looks like they woke up.
 

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The defense didn't play well. The offense was awful. The coaches were to blame. The players were to blame. The loss to Texas was a team effort.

All parties involved have upped their game. Overall, the defense has been better than just good. Give credit where it is due and don't expect a zebra to change its stripes. And by zebra, I mean mouth breathing tards who expect the right to talk but lack the ability to think.
 
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As has been stated before the Texas game, this team has the potential to be very good. Outside of the obvious need to avoid injuries...

Our D has to be able to compensate for the OLine inexperience OR the OLine has to keep getting better, a lot better (experienced), every week.

I haven't been disappointed in the Defense at all considering the experience level of the secondary. Even looked like Alexander was being more patient the past few games. Could be wrong, but looked like Shannon was inside much of the game at LB. I like that.
 
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I would venture to say Mike Stoops learned not to go full retard like he did in the Texas game.
Mike is the best D coordinator in the country this year just look at the numbers holmes. Quit your Stoops bashing
 

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Mike is the best D coordinator in the country this year just look at the numbers holmes. Quit your Stoops bashing
Tap the brakes a bit on best DC in the country....holmes. While I believe overall for the year so far the defense has made great improvement from last year. I would even venture to give the defense an A so far for the year....if not for the Texas game.
But the "best D coordinator" in the country doesn't leave his defense in a 2-4-5 for over 2/3s of the game against an offense that posed nearly zero legit threat to throw the ball down field.
Nobody is perfect. And at least Mike has rebounded and followed up with 2 very impressive defensive performances. So whether you take that as Stoops bashing or not is up to you.
 

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Tap the brakes a bit on best DC in the country....holmes. While I believe overall for the year so far the defense has made great improvement from last year. I would even venture to give the defense an A so far for the year....if not for the Texas game.
But the "best D coordinator" in the country doesn't leave his defense in a 2-4-5 for over 2/3s of the game against an offense that posed nearly zero legit threat to throw the ball down field.
Nobody is perfect. And at least Mike has rebounded and followed up with 2 very impressive defensive performances. So whether you take that as Stoops bashing or not is up to you.
I agree with the Texas games but his D completely shut down Tennessse and Tech who both have very good offenses. Take your pick Smart or Stoops but I will take Mike all day.
 
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Tap the brakes a bit on best DC in the country....holmes. While I believe overall for the year so far the defense has made great improvement from last year. I would even venture to give the defense an A so far for the year....if not for the Texas game.
But the "best D coordinator" in the country doesn't leave his defense in a 2-4-5 for over 2/3s of the game against an offense that posed nearly zero legit threat to throw the ball down field.
Nobody is perfect. And at least Mike has rebounded and followed up with 2 very impressive defensive performances. So whether you take that as Stoops bashing or not is up to you.

How do you know?