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Dear Pat Ryan: Please pay Boo and Chase whatever it takes to get them back

CatManTrue

CatManTrue

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Why not run this back one more year?

Back up the Brinks truck, offer them both a ton of cash (far more than what they would make in the G League or their first European season), and use the NIL to our advantage.

There are no transfers that can replace their experience playing together, leadership, and contributions to our best basketball team ever.

Fans wanna know… if we can finally become a basketball school!
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

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I know it's a lot to ask, but I want NU to get over the hump. They'll never be Duke or Gonzaga until they start stringing these things together and then it just becomes a machine. If they make the tourney every six years, I will love those years, but if they start going into every season expecting the tourney as if its their birthright (like Duke), that's when NU has truly arrived.
 
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Hungry Jack

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My gut says Boo and Chase moving on in pursuit of bigger dreams. Enjoy them here while you can! I really enjoy watching Boo work in the paint. He has provided lots of material for instructional videos on how to use your body and fakes to get off a shot amongst the trees inside.
 
SmellyCat

SmellyCat

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I don't think my heart can take another year of Chase Audige (both the good and bad). I'm sure I was not the only one who literally screamed, "No! No!" YES!" when he made that one second-half three he probably shouldn't have taken.
 
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PurpleWhiteBoy

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The NCAA might do a bunch of young men a favor and rescind the Covid eligibility year, effective immediately.

In Animal House, when John Belushi groused "7 years of college down the drain" - it was supposed to be a joke!
 
DarkSide576

DarkSide576

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Although I agree with the sentiments/premise of these posts, could we please stop relying on/praying for Pat Ryan to do something? The man has done so much for the school. We have other alumni who have high net worth, too. Let them help. Heck, in my small way, I contribute, financially, to the best of my ability. If we want nice things, we all need to pitch in and do our part, no matter how big or how small.
For what it is worth, the reason why I write this is I live in Columbus. So much of what is good at The Ohio State University is due to the philanthropy of the Wexner family. However, as soon as something goes south (President gets canned) the vox populi forgets all of the good the Wexner family has done, and demand 'off with their heads'. I find that crazy (my opinion).
 
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rwhitney014

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Yes, yes, if there’s anything we can blame the Ryan family for, it’s not investing enough cash into NU athletics.
 
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zbag51

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SmellyCat said:
I don't think my heart can take another year of Chase Audige (both the good and bad). I'm sure I was not the only one who literally screamed, "No! No!" YES!" when he made that one second-half three he probably shouldn't have taken.
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Definitely scared my dog during that sequence!
 
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phatcat_rivals223240

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DarkSide576 said:
Although I agree with the sentiments/premise of these posts, could we please stop relying on/praying for Pat Ryan to do something? The man has done so much for the school. We have other alumni who have high net worth, too. Let them help. Heck, in my small way, I contribute, financially, to the best of my ability. If we want nice things, we all need to pitch in and do our part, no matter how big or how small.
For what it is worth, the reason why I write this is I live in Columbus. So much of what is good at The Ohio State University is due to the philanthropy of the Wexner family. However, as soon as something goes south (President gets canned) the vox populi forgets all of the good the Wexner family has done, and demand 'off with their heads'. I find that crazy (my opinion).
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While I agree that we are over-reliant on Ryan, we also don't need any more buildings named after him, especially Edifice Rex, the new football stadium. We need athletes, not buildings
 
CatManTrue

CatManTrue

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DarkSide576 said:
Although I agree with the sentiments/premise of these posts, could we please stop relying on/praying for Pat Ryan to do something? The man has done so much for the school. We have other alumni who have high net worth, too. Let them help. Heck, in my small way, I contribute, financially, to the best of my ability. If we want nice things, we all need to pitch in and do our part, no matter how big or how small.
For what it is worth, the reason why I write this is I live in Columbus. So much of what is good at The Ohio State University is due to the philanthropy of the Wexner family. However, as soon as something goes south (President gets canned) the vox populi forgets all of the good the Wexner family has done, and demand 'off with their heads'. I find that crazy (my opinion).
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While we have many wealthy alumni, few - if any - are as loaded, and old, as Pat Ryan.

He’s closer to 90 than he is to 70, and he can’t take the money with him.

What’s $2M to potentially guarantee another NCAA postseason appearance?

Wasn’t last night more fun & exciting for Pat than having another building named after him?
 
DarkSide576

DarkSide576

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Respectfully, again, although I agree with you, the Ryan family is free to spend their money as they wish. If that means ten buildings, as Bobby Brown said ‘It’s my (Pat’s) prerogative’.
 
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Maybe it would help to check the players thoughts on the subject? If they want to move on, the money won’t matter, and if they want to play another year…
 
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zeek55

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There's plenty of reasons why this may not be about money...

While compensating players to stay an extra year may be possible, the players may also want to move on with their lives.

They're both turning 24 this year and may also want to go out on top, anything else we achieve this year is extra beyond the NCAA tournament appearance + victory plus 2nd in Big Ten + beating #1.
 
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Hungry Jack

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Pat Ryan can give as much to NU as he wants. I would kiss his feet for it. We are lucky to have such a benefactor.

I hope he endows True NU in a jaw-dropping way. I would not put it past him.
 
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MotownMedilldo

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We can afford to keep the graduating seniors another year. That much is clear from the conversations here in Sacramento with those close to the program. Whether they want to stay is the question. If they don't, I'm confident Collins and the powers that be have a plan for sustained success moving forward.
 
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hdhntr1

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CatManTrue said:
Why not run this back one more year?

Back up the Brinks truck, offer them both a ton of cash (far more than what they would make in the G League or their first European season), and use the NIL to our advantage.

There are no transfers that can replace their experience playing together, leadership, and contributions to our best basketball team ever.

Fans wanna know… if we can finally become a basketball school!
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So generous with OPM
 
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hdhntr1

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CatManTrue said:
While we have many wealthy alumni, few - if any - are as loaded, and old, as Pat Ryan.

He’s closer to 90 than he is to 70, and he can’t take the money with him.

What’s $2M to potentially guarantee another NCAA postseason appearance?

Wasn’t last night more fun & exciting for Pat than having another building named after him?
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And games like last night's or the PSU games might hasten the departure. Sorry but it is his money and his choice on how to deploy it. It isn't just that he may be one of the most well off but also that many of the other weatlhy donors are not as into the sports aspects as he is
 
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xxxbobxxx

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phatcat said:
While I agree that we are over-reliant on Ryan, we also don't need any more buildings named after him, especially Edifice Rex, the new football stadium. We need athletes, not buildings
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Besides, we are a basketball school now. Maybe they can change that to a new bball arena and let FB play on the baseball field. They can pretend it’s Wrigley - kinda like they pretend the two students from the Daily that make up the post game presser are the media.
 
stpaulcat

stpaulcat

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CatManTrue said:
While we have many wealthy alumni, few - if any - are as loaded, and old, as Pat Ryan.

He’s closer to 90 than he is to 70, and he can’t take the money with him.

What’s $2M to potentially guarantee another NCAA postseason appearance?

Wasn’t last night more fun & exciting for Pat than having another building named after him?
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So I called Pat, and he said yes.
 
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hdhntr1

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phatcat said:
While I agree that we are over-reliant on Ryan, we also don't need any more buildings named after him, especially Edifice Rex, the new football stadium. We need athletes, not buildings
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Buildings last but athletes are at best rentals. Twenty years from now, no one remembers that he bought the players but the building is still there with his name on it. For decades people on this very board have complained about the facilities and he has done a lot to remedy that situation. He has also given to plenty of other areas that are important to NU. If he chooses to add NIL money to the mix, his decision, not yours and not mine. He has done plenty for NU already
 
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phatcat_rivals223240

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hdhntr1 said:
Buildings last but athletes are at best rentals. Twenty years from now, no one remembers that he bought the players but the building is still there with his name on it. For decades people on this very board have complained about the facilities and he has done a lot to remedy that situation. He has also given to plenty of other areas that are important to NU. If he chooses to add NIL money to the mix, his decision, not yours and not mine. He has done plenty for NU already
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Of course it's his decision. And he will likely support the overpriced, unnecessary stadium. I feel like it's foolish. Just spend 100M and renovate Ryan Field and spend some money on a competitive team. Like every other power 5 team's boosters.
 
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hdhntr1

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phatcat said:
Of course it's his decision. And he will likely support the overpriced, unnecessary stadium. I feel like it's foolish. Just spend 100M and renovate Ryan Field and spend some money on a competitive team. Like every other power 5 team's boosters.
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The problem is that that is a one time band aid that then needs another and another cause all you are doing is renting them for a year. Also, in this area, $100 mill that you suggest probably does not really do much, so you are left with the go big or go home situation. One is a 50 year permanent solution and the other is a bandaid. But it also depends on the deductibility of the donation. For the building definitely there, Even for funding a coaching chair. For renting players???? I would guess that would be a stretch.

And the reality is that there will always be more money elsewhere for those players that are driven by that, We just do not have the alumni base to be able to compete at the highest level in that area. Not saying it is not worthwhile doing things to make their lives easier but if an OSU is going to pay a player millions, do you really think we are going to be able to keep up with that on a regular basis????
 
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phatcat_rivals223240

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hdhntr1 said:
The problem is that that is a one time band aid that then needs another and another cause all you are doing is renting them for a year. Also, in this area, $100 mill that you suggest probably does not really do much, so you are left with the go big or go home situation. One is a 50 year permanent solution and the other is a bandaid. But it also depends on the deductibility of the donation. For the building definitely there, Even for funding a coaching chair. For renting players???? I would guess that would be a stretch.
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Not really a bandaid. If you set up a trust fund with, say 100M of the overly excessive 800M, and take out 4-5M a year to give 40-50 football and Bball players 100k a year, it will last a very long time.

Edit, you can probably put in seats, fix the bathrooms and concessions for 100m. I'd do it for 99m if you want to hire me.
 
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hdhntr1

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phatcat said:
Not really a bandaid. If you set up a trust fund with, say 100M of the overly excessive 800M, and take out 4-5M a year to give 40-50 football and Bball players 100k a year, it will last a very long time.

Edit, you can probably put in seats, fix the bathrooms and concessions for 100m. I'd do it for 99m if you want to hire me.
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And then it is run by the school and I see that as another kind of problem
 
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PurpleWhiteBoy

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No matter what NU does, the SEC and Ohio State are going to outslime us, so why go down that road?
College athletic teams are not supposed to be minor league sports franchises.

Let the SEC be the minor leagues for the pro sports teams, just as it is the minor leagues for academics.
 
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NUera

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I don’t think we need Pat Ryan to get involved. I’d say 250k each gets it done. If 1,000 people give $500, or 500 people give $1,000, that should be enough.
 
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zeek55

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phatcat said:
Of course it's his decision. And he will likely support the overpriced, unnecessary stadium. I feel like it's foolish. Just spend 100M and renovate Ryan Field and spend some money on a competitive team. Like every other power 5 team's boosters.
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$100 million in Evanston in this day and age doesn't get you much.

I do agree that $800 million seems almost crazy for a 35k stadium, but it's going to be an NFL style palace; easily the nicest stadium in CFB seat-for-seat.

Other thing is we just don't know how Pat Ryan or the other donors feel about NIL. He has enough money to be able to do anything he wants (whether bankroll a huge part of a $800 million stadium or $50-100 million for NIL funds).

We just don't know what he feels about it; $ is not an issue for the Ryan family.
 
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