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The Pitt job could be a great opportunity for the right candidate.
 

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I wonder if the draw of the ACC would be enough to get Greg Marshall out of Wichita. He is from the Mid-Atlantic ( Roanoke, VA - he graduated from the same high school as JJ Redick), so there might be some appeal for him there.
 

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I wonder if the draw of the ACC would be enough to get Greg Marshall out of Wichita. He is from the Mid-Atlantic ( Roanoke, VA - he graduated from the same high school as JJ Redick), so there might be some appeal for him there.
Doubt it, but there would be no harm in asking.
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He already makes over $3 million a year at WSU, I'm not sure what Pitt could offer.
 

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Frank Martin would be a good fit, but he is still building in SC.
I like SC cause my best friend went there, so I hope Martin stays.
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PS Denver: I was in the city for my birthday and was introduced to a bourbon made in Brooklyn, of all places. It's called Widow Jane. Do yourself a favor and find it!
 
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I like SC cause my best friend went there, so I hope Martin stays.
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PS Denver: I was in the city for my birthday and was introduced to a bourbon made in Brooklyn, of all places. It's called Widow Jane. Do yourself a favor and find it!
Thanks! I'll report back soon.
 

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I thought about that and Tommy Amaker also but not sure either one would like to go against Coach K out of respect but on the other hand perhaps so because Coach K isn't to coach forever. Hey do count out Larry Brown. It's about time for him to move on since he has screwed up another program. OFC
 

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How about this one....Sean Miller. Now here me out, because I know he's on fire in Arizona.

It's his alma mater. It's the ACC. It's the east coast. It would likely be a boatload of money. He grew up in Pennsylvania so it's home.

I don't think it happens, but that would be an absolute homerun hire for Pitt.
 

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How about this one....Sean Miller. Now here me out, because I know he's on fire in Arizona.

It's his alma mater. It's the ACC. It's the east coast. It would likely be a boatload of money. He grew up in Pennsylvania so it's home.

I don't think it happens, but that would be an absolute homerun hire for Pitt.
I can't imagine it unless he gets tired of the grousing at Arizona, which is patently ridiculous.
 

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Bruce Pearl, Tubby Smith bring in someone that can coach!!!

Im sure Seth Greenburg would jump at it if offered :p
 

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The good news is that if they got Greenburg, they wouldn't have to change their scheduling philosophy.
 
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This reminds me of how Dave Odom, Herb Sendek, and Frank Haith left the ACC.
 

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Dixon knew he was in over his head with ACC & blew chance to make FF in 2008 & '09.
 

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Hey Will and Denver. Some friends of mine are starting a bourbon distillery. They are starting off with rum, because bourbon takes longer and is more expensive to start up. I think they are done with the permit process and are almost finished with renovating. They are the parents of two kids on my son's youth swim team. Quietest people you could meet in the middle of nowhere, NY. Breweries/distilleries are really growing in NY. We have some great local beers in my area. When they have some out, I definitely plan on trying some.
 

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Hey Will and Denver. Some friends of mine are starting a bourbon distillery. They are starting off with rum, because bourbon takes longer and is more expensive to start up. I think they are done with the permit process and are almost finished with renovating. They are the parents of two kids on my son's youth swim team. Quietest people you could meet in the middle of nowhere, NY. Breweries/distilleries are really growing in NY. We have some great local beers in my area. When they have some out, I definitely plan on trying some.
And let us know!
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Seems like Dixon saw the writing on the wall at Pitt and decided to get out a couple years early.
To me, the next Pittsburgh candidate is going to have his work cut out for him.
Jamie Dixon was an EXCELLENT in game coach, but he never landed big-time recruits

Pitt had a great run in the late 2000's, but it seems like they are stuck now, and could be stuck for a long time, in the middle of the ACC.
I don't see them landing the big time recruits in order to perenially be in the top 5 of the ACC.

Pitt moving to the ACC was smart, because they could be stuck in the awful American Conference if not for the move. However, especially without Dixon, they could have losing ACC basketaball records for a while now.
It does boggle my mind how they aren't very good at football year in and year out.
 

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Meh, let them get a bum coach, we already have enough tough schools with great coaches we have to overcome!
 

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Seems like Dixon saw the writing on the wall at Pitt and decided to get out a couple years early.
To me, the next Pittsburgh candidate is going to have his work cut out for him.
Jamie Dixon was an EXCELLENT in game coach, but he never landed big-time recruits
I always thought of Pittsburgh as some depressing city full of steel factories and industrial pollution, but I've since learned it's really beautiful and a great place to live. I don't really know anything about the university beyond sports, but location doesn't seem like a deterrent to good recruiting.
 
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I always thought of Pittsburgh as some depressing city full of steel factories and industrial pollution, but I've since learned it's really beautiful and a great place to live. I don't really know anything about the university beyond sports, but location doesn't seem like a deterrent to good recruiting.
I have visited Pittsburgh many times, and your correct, it is much different than its reputation states, at least in the downtown district.

My theory was that if Pitt wasn't landing McDonalds All Americans when they were a premier Big East program and yearly top 10 in the country. How are they going to now when they are stuck in the middle of the ACC???
 

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While Pitt can certainly be a very solid job, dominating western PA basketball recruiting is hardly enough if the goal is to compete in a modern ACC league where you've got Duke/UNCrecruiting at the top of the sport, Louisville / Syracuse recruiting about as well as anyone not named Duke/UNC/UK/Kansas, and then a lot of other very good programs that recruit as well or better than Pitt -- including UVA, NC State, ND, Miami, FSU, etc. While Pitt did really well in the old Big East, in the later years of that league, it didn't really have nearly as much NBA talent as it once had in the 80s to late 90s -- which I think made it possible for veteran, hardened teams to thrive. And, I'd add, one of the things that I think hurts Pitt in the ACC is that the game is called a lot more tightly than it was in the Big East. Pitt's entire ethos was perfect for the Big East, where games were basically rock fights on a night-in, night-out basis. It's not great in a league dominated by Duke/UNC where, generally-speaking, the games are called in a way to limit physicality and ensure freedom of movement.

In other words, while I think Pitt's a very solid job, I don't think that's the type of job you take if you're hoping to compete for championships. The road to the top of the ACC is just so steep with so many perennially great programs + UVA, which looks like it will be perennial contender under Bennett. For a guy like Sean Miller, for instance, the opportunity to compete at the highest level is far better at UA -- where you have a great chance to recruit the best west coast players, as opposed to Pitt -- where in most years, you're going to have to go against teams that recruit at a different level from you.
 

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Wow, yeah, they really are hemmed in geographically on all sides by better traditional destinations.
 

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Pitt is a nicer city than you might imagine. Went to school in Western Pa and a lot of my friends from college are from Pittsburg. Tony Bennet isn't exactly killing it the recruiting trail, and he is very successful in the AC. If Boeheim can get good recruits to SU, it shouldn't be impossible to recruit to Pitt. The main draw back for both is the snow/weather. Pitt is probably a few degrees warmer
 

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Seems like Dixon saw the writing on the wall at Pitt and decided to get out a couple years early.
To me, the next Pittsburgh candidate is going to have his work cut out for him.
Jamie Dixon was an EXCELLENT in game coach, but he never landed big-time recruits

Pitt had a great run in the late 2000's, but it seems like they are stuck now, and could be stuck for a long time, in the middle of the ACC.
I don't see them landing the big time recruits in order to perenially be in the top 5 of the ACC.

Pitt moving to the ACC was smart, because they could be stuck in the awful American Conference if not for the move. However, especially without Dixon, they could have losing ACC basketaball records for a while now.
It does boggle my mind how they aren't very good at football year in and year out.
Kevin White spoke at function I attended regarding ACC expansion & he was touting Pitt football as great addition due to owning multiple national titles. Sure, from 1910-1930 Pitt was solid but one title in the 70's does not make a powerhouse program. Really shook my my head at that comment. Pitt football is pretty low right now.
 
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Kevin White spoke at function I attended regarding ACC expansion & he was touting Pitt football as great addition due to owning multiple national titles. Sure, from 1910-1930 Pitt was solid but one title in the 70's does not make a powerhouse program. Really shook my my head at that comment. Pitt football is pretty low right now.
Getting way off track here. But I stand by my comment that Pitt should be an ACC contender in football annually.

1. They play at Heinz field, which should be a slight recruiting advantage. I know it's not the best stadium ever, but it's still where the Steelers play.
2. Pennsylvania is a deep and talented football state. I know, it's not Florida, but it is much better and deeper than one would think. Also, Ohio is right there (a top 5 football state annually.)
3. Sure, Pitt is competing up north with Michigan and OSU for all the big time football recruits, but as far as ACC competition goes, there really isnt anyone else. BC?? Please. Syracuse and UVA?? No. VA Tech just got a new coach so they should be rebuilding for at least a few years.
 

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While Pitt can certainly be a very solid job, dominating western PA basketball recruiting is hardly enough if the goal is to compete in a modern ACC league where you've got Duke/UNCrecruiting at the top of the sport, Louisville / Syracuse recruiting about as well as anyone not named Duke/UNC/UK/Kansas, and then a lot of other very good programs that recruit as well or better than Pitt -- including UVA, NC State, ND, Miami, FSU, etc. While Pitt did really well in the old Big East, in the later years of that league, it didn't really have nearly as much NBA talent as it once had in the 80s to late 90s -- which I think made it possible for veteran, hardened teams to thrive. And, I'd add, one of the things that I think hurts Pitt in the ACC is that the game is called a lot more tightly than it was in the Big East. Pitt's entire ethos was perfect for the Big East, where games were basically rock fights on a night-in, night-out basis. It's not great in a league dominated by Duke/UNC where, generally-speaking, the games are called in a way to limit physicality and ensure freedom of movement.

In other words, while I think Pitt's a very solid job, I don't think that's the type of job you take if you're hoping to compete for championships. The road to the top of the ACC is just so steep with so many perennially great programs + UVA, which looks like it will be perennial contender under Bennett. For a guy like Sean Miller, for instance, the opportunity to compete at the highest level is far better at UA -- where you have a great chance to recruit the best west coast players, as opposed to Pitt -- where in most years, you're going to have to go against teams that recruit at a different level from you.
When Pitt was at their most successful, they also recruited NYC well. Maybe leaving the Big East hurt in that regard.
 
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I'm lazy and don't feel like looking this up. Did Pitt ever make a Final4 in Dixon's time??? I know that they were a 1-seed a couple of times, and I remember Pitt and Nova playing an epic tournament game ( I believe it was Elite8 tho.)
 

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Hey Will and Denver. Some friends of mine are starting a bourbon distillery. They are starting off with rum, because bourbon takes longer and is more expensive to start up. I think they are done with the permit process and are almost finished with renovating. They are the parents of two kids on my son's youth swim team. Quietest people you could meet in the middle of nowhere, NY. Breweries/distilleries are really growing in NY. We have some great local beers in my area. When they have some out, I definitely plan on trying some.

I assume that's the one going over the deli?
 

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I'm lazy and don't feel like looking this up. Did Pitt ever make a Final4 in Dixon's time??? I know that they were a 1-seed a couple of times, and I remember Pitt and Nova playing an epic tournament game ( I believe it was Elite8 tho.)

No, they never did. I think the Elite Eight in 2009 was his only appearance in that round. He was to the Sweet 16 a handful of times, though....maybe three or four.
 

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Pitt football had a chance with Penn St floundering for a couple years with the scandal, if they could not pull better talent regionally with Penn St off the radar when they were...not sure how they are going to do it now. Huggins is doing well UWV, not sure a name coach like Miller couldn't do at Pitt, roughly similar situations.