Docs withheld by Trump are so sensitive access codes are secret.

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Sleepy has been keeping docs in various locations since he was the slowest Senator in 40 years. Grow up
 

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Sleepy has been keeping docs in various locations since he was the slowest Senator in 40 years. Grow up
If President Biden violated any of our intelligence information act, he should be held accountable. It really shows mental immaturity and lack of analytical skills when people like you make deflective comments to sidestep the truth. Biden didn't take highly confidential national military and intelligence documents to Mar-a-Lago to share with people. Give a substantive argument why the story is false, instead of a lame-brained whataboutism. You grow up!
 

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Thank God for my Senator Grassley and his partners in the House who have the truth on their side in this fiasco

IF Orange Man Bad is convicted of anything he can rot in prison. Until then he is presumed innocent under US laws (except by the minority of Americans who want a Banana Republic)
 
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Thank God for my Senator Grassley and his partners in the House who have the truth on their side in this fiasco

IF Orange Man Bad is convicted of anything he can rot in prison. Until then he is presumed innocent under US laws (except by the minority of Americans who want a Banana Republic)
We deserve better than another octogenarian in congress. he should quit
 

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We deserve better than another octogenarian in congress. he should quit
If his mental acuity is enough to do his job and the people he represents are happy, his chronological age is immaterial. You know, I believe wisdom comes with age, for the most part.
 

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If his mental acuity is enough to do his job and the people he represents are happy, his chronological age is immaterial. You know, I believe wisdom comes with age, for the most part.
Out with the olds. In with the not olds. this job was never ever intended to be a career
 

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If President Biden violated any of our intelligence information act, he should be held accountable. It really shows mental immaturity and lack of analytical skills when people like you make deflective comments to sidestep the truth. Biden didn't take highly confidential national military and intelligence documents to Mar-a-Lago to share with people. Give a substantive argument why the story is false, instead of a lame-brained whataboutism. You grow up!
First of all, Biden took the docs while he was VP, which he had NO AUTHORITY to do so. Biden also had documents from when he was a Senator.....try to deflect that information, Democrats.
Garland needs to expand the Special Counsel on Biden to not only look at his illegal seizure of documents, but also the funneling of money through multiple LLC's with at least 9 members of the Biden family, to include grandchildren. I was unaware that young children can have LLC's since they don't have the mental capacity (like their grandfather) to make legal decisions until they are 18 years of age. I am waiting for a Democrat to explain that one. Don't worry- the Big Guy will always get his 10% cut....according to crackhead Hunter.
The scales of justice are not equal- if you are a Dem, like Biden and Crooked Hillary, you get a pass; if you are a Republican, you are getting everything thrown at you, and most of it is bogus BS.
 

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First of all, Biden took the docs while he was VP, which he had NO AUTHORITY to do so. Biden also had documents from when he was a Senator.....try to deflect that information, Democrats.
Garland needs to expand the Special Counsel on Biden to not only look at his illegal seizure of documents, but also the funneling of money through multiple LLC's with at least 9 members of the Biden family, to include grandchildren. I was unaware that young children can have LLC's since they don't have the mental capacity (like their grandfather) to make legal decisions until they are 18 years of age. I am waiting for a Democrat to explain that one. Don't worry- the Big Guy will always get his 10% cut....according to crackhead Hunter.
The scales of justice are not equal- if you are a Dem, like Biden and Crooked Hillary, you get a pass; if you are a Republican, you are getting everything thrown at you, and most of it is bogus BS.
Trump isn't indicted for taking docs, he is indicted for refusing to give classified docs back, and lying, as well as potentially sharing nuclear and other secrets with other countries. When Biden and Pence found classified documents, they contacted the Department of Justice and then they cooperated and turned over everything they had. Hillary was investigated for years by the House of Representatives special commitees and they never found anything prosecutable.
 
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If President Biden violated any of our intelligence information act, he should be held accountable. It really shows mental immaturity and lack of analytical skills when people like you make deflective comments to sidestep the truth. Biden didn't take highly confidential national military and intelligence documents to Mar-a-Lago to share with people. Give a substantive argument why the story is false, instead of a lame-brained whataboutism. You grow up!
Yer not worth arguing with obviously. Good luck. 👍
 

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Why are post like this even allowed on a paid sports site? Both sides ignore each other. There's now 17 audio tapes of Bidens 10 million dollar bribery so I help everyone's ready for that. I like the masked singer idea on picking a president.
 

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First of all, Biden took the docs while he was VP, which he had NO AUTHORITY to do so. Biden also had documents from when he was a Senator.....try to deflect that information, Democrats.
Garland needs to expand the Special Counsel on Biden to not only look at his illegal seizure of documents, but also the funneling of money through multiple LLC's with at least 9 members of the Biden family, to include grandchildren. I was unaware that young children can have LLC's since they don't have the mental capacity (like their grandfather) to make legal decisions until they are 18 years of age. I am waiting for a Democrat to explain that one. Don't worry- the Big Guy will always get his 10% cut....according to crackhead Hunter.
The scales of justice are not equal- if you are a Dem, like Biden and Crooked Hillary, you get a pass; if you are a Republican, you are getting everything thrown at you, and most of it is bogus BS.
Obviously, you don’t know what you're talking about. The VP has access to certain intelligence just like the president. Your conspiracy theories tells me you're uninformed and your kneejerk reaction indicates the lack of critical thinking. It's really sad that people fall for propaganda and innuendo put out there to confuse those who are the weakest intellectually.
 

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Why are post like this even allowed on a paid sports site? Both sides ignore each other. There's now 17 audio tapes of Bidens 10 million dollar bribery so I help everyone's ready for that. I like the masked singer idea on picking a president.
This is a forum where issuesnot related to sports are discussed. Learn to accept the fact that others may have a difference of opinion from yours. Just argue the facts as you see fit, and not to worry about the reason this forum exists.
 

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Obviously, you don’t know what you're talking about. The VP has access to certain intelligence just like the president. Your conspiracy theories tells me you're uninformed and your kneejerk reaction indicates the lack of critical thinking. It's really sad that people fall for propaganda and innuendo put out there to confuse those who are the weakest intellectually.
Yes, the VP has access to it, while IN OFFICE, but Biden did not have authorization to take documents outside his scope as VP, meaning he doesn't have declassification authority since he was NOT President ( Presidential Records Act). I'm far from having a lack of intellect, bud. I can tell you watch either MSDNC or CNN, so I will give you a pass....those "news networks" only spoonfeed you what they want you to know ( just like Russia, North Korea, China).
What is the "conspiracy theory" you prescribe? Everything I said was factual, unlike your typical Democrat talking points to deflect from reality.
 

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Yes, the VP has access to it, while IN OFFICE, but Biden did not have authorization to take documents outside his scope as VP, meaning he doesn't have declassification authority since he was NOT President ( Presidential Records Act). I'm far from having a lack of intellect, bud. I can tell you watch either MSDNC or CNN, so I will give you a pass....those "news networks" only spoonfeed you what they want you to know ( just like Russia, North Korea, China).
What is the "conspiracy theory" you prescribe? Everything I said was factual, unlike your typical Democrat talking points to deflect from reality.
Not the same thing as what Trump is indicted for. Both Biden and Pence cooperated with the investigation when it is was found they had classified documents. Trump didn't cooperate, he lied, and is suspected of sharing nuclear secrets, etc.. If Trump sold/shared nuclear secrets with other countries will you admit he did wrong or is he completely above all laws?
 

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Not the same thing as what Trump is indicted for. Both Biden and Pence cooperated with the investigation when it is was found they had classified documents. Trump didn't cooperate, he lied, and is suspected of sharing nuclear secrets, etc.. If Trump sold/shared nuclear secrets with other countries will you admit he did wrong or is he completely above all laws?
No, I would admit he would be wrong IF he sold/shared nuclear secrets, but there is no definitive evidence he did that. Trump was also cooperating with the records office (reps were there just prior to the raid- if they were so concerned, why didn't they just take them then), and the left seems to forget that the Secret Service is at his residence and people just don't walk around there aimlessly to look at things, unlike Biden who had records in his garage, Chinatown, his home, his university location, and on and on. The ONLY reason it came up about other locations, AFTER the press secretary said "There were no more documents", is because the truth was going to be leaked, and it was, so the White House had no choice. Also, that information was hidden from Americans during election season in November.
 

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Embarrassing ain't it? 👍
Yes it is embarassing- no wonder the rest of the countries laugh at the United States, and why Russia invaded Ukraine....I know Russia didn't do anything in the four years President Trump was in office. When Trump said he would do something, he did it.
 

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Yes it is embarassing- no wonder the rest of the countries laugh at the United States, and why Russia invaded Ukraine....I know Russia didn't do anything in the four years President Trump was in office. When Trump said he would do something, he did it.
Yes, sleepy's a laughingstock.
 

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Yes, the VP has access to it, while IN OFFICE, but Biden did not have authorization to take documents outside his scope as VP, meaning he doesn't have declassification authority since he was NOT President ( Presidential Records Act). I'm far from having a lack of intellect, bud. I can tell you watch either MSDNC or CNN, so I will give you a pass....those "news networks" only spoonfeed you what they want you to know ( just like Russia, North Korea, China).
What is the "conspiracy theory" you prescribe? Everything I said was factual, unlike your typical Democrat talking points to deflect from reality.
Sorry, i don't digest conspiracy theories like you do. I analyze the information i come across and seek the fact or the truth. I suggest you do the same.
 

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Sorry, i don't digest conspiracy theories like you do. I analyze the information i come across and seek the fact or the truth. I suggest you do the same.
Conspiracy theory? It is called factual information, something you do not get from CNN or MSDNC. Joe Biden was VP, right? He was found to have multiple locations with documents, right? He was NOT president in 2017, right? The President is the ONLY one to declassify documents, right? No conspiracies on my side- all factual. You know what the Presidential Records Act is, right? Apparently you are not analyzing anything except the propaganda you see and hear from the so-called "news stations" that Dems watch. You do know that Creepy Joe does not know what day it is, where he is, and what he is saying, right? Dems have a hard time looking at actual evidence and not simply go by what your party wants you to hear and think.
 

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Conspiracy theory? It is called factual information, something you do not get from CNN or MSDNC. Joe Biden was VP, right? He was found to have multiple locations with documents, right? He was NOT president in 2017, right? The President is the ONLY one to declassify documents, right? No conspiracies on my side- all factual. You know what the Presidential Records Act is, right? Apparently you are not analyzing anything except the propaganda you see and hear from the so-called "news stations" that Dems watch. You do know that Creepy Joe does not know what day it is, where he is, and what he is saying, right? Dems have a hard time looking at actual evidence and not simply go by what your party wants you to hear and think.
Trump wasn't arrested for taking the documents, he was arrested for no cooperating and not handing over the documents. He also is in trouble for possibly sharing state secrets. Where in the world do you get your news, QAnon?
 
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Yes it is embarassing- no wonder the rest of the countries laugh at the United States, and why Russia invaded Ukraine....I know Russia didn't do anything in the four years President Trump was in office. When Trump said he would do something, he did it.
Trump is just an old crook, serial bankruptcy filer, sexual assualter, and goofball, who's been arrested more often than he's been elected. He just got hauled into court in Miami for stealing copious amounts of top-secret government documents, lying about it, and hoarding them like a deranged squirrel, most cringingly in a pimped-out bathroom at his trashy golf club. The reason Russia didn't do anything when he was in officewas solely b/c of business interests. Russia paid Manafort $10,000,000 and then he ran Trump's campaing for free (fact, look it up), huh, why would he do that?
After Trump met with Putin's lawyer (when he was 6th or 7th in the race for the gop nominee) he walked out and started talking about and tweeting about Hilary Clinton incessantly. He had never tweeted about her before that meeting (he even voted for Bill), but Putin despised Hilary for her work against Russia when she was Secretary of State (cost Putin and his buddies billions in oil and gas money) and he did not want her to be president.
Trump was not friendly to upper middle class, middle class, or lower class Americans, everything he did regarding taxes benefitted the uber rich much, much more than the rest of us. Why in the world do people respect or like him?
 

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Trump is just an old crook, serial bankruptcy filer, sexual assualter, and goofball, who's been arrested more often than he's been elected. He just got hauled into court in Miami for stealing copious amounts of top-secret government documents, lying about it, and hoarding them like a deranged squirrel, most cringingly in a pimped-out bathroom at his trashy golf club. The reason Russia didn't do anything when he was in officewas solely b/c of business interests. Russia paid Manafort $10,000,000 and then he ran Trump's campaing for free (fact, look it up), huh, why would he do that?
After Trump met with Putin's lawyer (when he was 6th or 7th in the race for the gop nominee) he walked out and started talking about and tweeting about Hilary Clinton incessantly. He had never tweeted about her before that meeting (he even voted for Bill), but Putin despised Hilary for her work against Russia when she was Secretary of State (cost Putin and his buddies billions in oil and gas money) and he did not want her to be president.
Trump was not friendly to upper middle class, middle class, or lower class Americans, everything he did regarding taxes benefitted the uber rich much, much more than the rest of us. Why in the world do people respect or like him?
I believe that many people never really voted FOR Trump, but against Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020.
But when I reflect back on the two elections, none of these three should have been electable.
We have to be smarter when electing our presidents, because in our time, none will be the best and brightest of our country... only the puppets of big money and special interests.
Looks to me like voting will now be more about voting for what people perceive as voting for "the lesser of two evils".
 

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Conspiracy theory? It is called factual information, something you do not get from CNN or MSDNC. Joe Biden was VP, right? He was found to have multiple locations with documents, right? He was NOT president in 2017, right? The President is the ONLY one to declassify documents, right? No conspiracies on my side- all factual. You know what the Presidential Records Act is, right? Apparently you are not analyzing anything except the propaganda you see and hear from the so-called "news stations" that Dems watch. You do know that Creepy Joe does not know what day it is, where he is, and what he is saying, right? Dems have a hard time looking at actual evidence and not simply go by what your party wants you to hear and think.

Trump is just an old crook, serial bankruptcy filer, sexual assualter, and goofball, who's been arrested more often than he's been elected. He just got hauled into court in Miami for stealing copious amounts of top-secret government documents, lying about it, and hoarding them like a deranged squirrel, most cringingly in a pimped-out bathroom at his trashy golf club. The reason Russia didn't do anything when he was in officewas solely b/c of business interests. Russia paid Manafort $10,000,000 and then he ran Trump's campaing for free (fact, look it up), huh, why would he do that?
After Trump met with Putin's lawyer (when he was 6th or 7th in the race for the gop nominee) he walked out and started talking about and tweeting about Hilary Clinton incessantly. He had never tweeted about her before that meeting (he even voted for Bill), but Putin despised Hilary for her work against Russia when she was Secretary of State (cost Putin and his buddies billions in oil and gas money) and he did not want her to be president.
Trump was not friendly to upper middle class, middle class, or lower class Americans, everything he did regarding taxes benefitted the uber rich much, much more than the rest of us. Why in the world do people respect or like him?
They probably like him because he represents something no one wants to talk about, hate. He's regarded as the extremists messiah who has come to restore "order" or what they perceive to be the way it should be, the white supremacy fantasy. Some of us feel marginalized and feel that it's all because of diversity of culture and ethnicity. I know this will take a hit, but it's the truth.
 

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Why are post like this even allowed on a paid sports site? Both sides ignore each other. There's now 17 audio tapes of Bidens 10 million dollar bribery so I help everyone's ready for that. I like the masked singer idea on picking a president.
I would love eto hear them. I think if they existed, we'd have heard them by now, they'd have been leaked in an attempt to weaken him for the 24 election. Especially in light of all of trump's existing legal troubles.

What good does it serve the right to hold on to such damaging evidence of blatant corruption and crimes when the leader of their party is being booked and finger printed at a courthouse for dozens of felonies?
 

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I believe that many people never really voted FOR Trump, but against Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020.
But when I reflect back on the two elections, none of these three should have been electable.
We have to be smarter when electing our presidents, because in our time, none will be the best and brightest of our country... only the puppets of big money and special interests.
Looks to me like voting will now be more about voting for what people perceive as voting for "the lesser of two evils".
That is ME. I voted against clinton in 16. realized what i did. Went through 4 years of "blah" and then voted against trump in the 20 election. Unless trump is nominated, i'll probably vote against biden in 24.
 

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That is ME. I voted against clinton in 16. realized what i did. Went through 4 years of "blah" and then voted against trump in the 20 election. Unless trump is nominated, i'll probably vote against biden in 24.
What did you expect to be different under Biden administration and what do you expect to be different under a future Republican president not named Trump?
 

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What did you expect to be different under Biden administration and what do you expect to be different under a future Republican president not named Trump?
I expected a different person. clinton is a terrible human, i thought she was worse than trump because she actually knows what she's doing and how the government works . trump is a terrible human and worse than biden. But biden sucks the big one too, so i'll give whoever else a shot unless it's trump basically, the only one out there who is worse to me. there are a few dems i like but they wont win the nomination.
 

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Why are post like this even allowed on a paid sports site? Both sides ignore each other. There's now 17 audio tapes of Bidens 10 million dollar bribery so I help everyone's ready for that. I like the masked singer idea on picking a president.
Where do you get your news, facebook? There are no audio tapes (yet). MSNBC, etc might be slanted, but they don't flat out lie like some other outlets.
 

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When Trump said he would do something, he did it.
Lol. Come on, you dont believe that.

May 2014, trump says "If I decide to run for office I'll produce my tax returns. Absolutely. I'd love to do that." Never happened.

In 2016 he promised "If I win, I am going to instruct my AG to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation". Never happened.

 

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I expected a different person. clinton is a terrible human, i thought she was worse than trump because she actually knows what she's doing and how the government works . trump is a terrible human and worse than biden. But biden sucks the big one too, so i'll give whoever else a shot unless it's trump basically, the only one out there who is worse to me. there are a few dems i like but they wont win the nomination.
Why do say Hilary is a terrible human? Just curious.
 

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Why do say Hilary is a terrible human? Just curious.
She is extremely easy to dislike and has negative charisma. I dont trust anything she says, she is not a genuine person, even when she's being honest, i still feel like she's lying. same with trunp.
I dont believe her claim of innocence with her missing emails either. I dont like how she stole the nomination from Sanders. I think she has multiple personal failures during her term as secstate. I have concerns about the clinton foundation being used for personal enrichment and gain. I have concerns about the troubling number of clinton detractors who have been found mysteriously dead.

It's not just me, people really just dont like her. Even without all the things mentioned above, she is really really hard to like. Such as with harris, completely devoid of anything remotely likeable. Really, trunp is the same except his base is violently in love with him and democrats dont feel the same about clinton, harris, or even biden.
 

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She is extremely easy to dislike and has negative charisma. I dont trust anything she says, she is not a genuine person, even when she's being honest, i still feel like she's lying. same with trunp.
I dont believe her claim of innocence with her missing emails either. I dont like how she stole the nomination from Sanders. I think she has multiple personal failures during her term as secstate. I have concerns about the clinton foundation being used for personal enrichment and gain. I have concerns about the troubling number of clinton detractors who have been found mysteriously dead.

It's not just me, people really just dont like her. Even without all the things mentioned above, she is really really hard to like. Such as with harris, completely devoid of anything remotely likeable. Really, trunp is the same except his base is violently in love with him and democrats dont feel the same about clinton, harris, or even biden.
"People really don't like her", but she got more popular vote than Trump in 2016. She probably rubs people the wrong way.