Enes (Kanter) Freedom traded then waived

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Saw that Enes was traded from the Celtics to Houston, then waived. I know he was only averaging 3.7 ppg and 4.6 rbg the season, but he was only playing 11.8 min/game, so that's not horrible.

I wonder if his political views are costing him some longevity in the league?

I'm hopeful some team will pick him up for a playoff push.
 

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Saw that Enes was traded from the Celtics to Houston, then waived. I know he was only averaging 3.7 ppg and 4.6 rbg the season, but he was only playing 11.8 min/game, so that's not horrible.

I wonder if his political views are costing him some longevity in the league?

I'm hopeful some team will pick him up for a playoff push.
Are you trying to turn him into a hoops version of Kaepernick?

No, I don’t think this is because of politics. He’s been a marginal player hovering on the edge of this for quite awhile. Some folks mistakenly assumed he was better than he really is simply because he makes the news so often for being outspoken politically.

But I also suspect this won’t be the end of his NBA career. He’ll probably be picked up again by someone …even if only on very short term contracts.
 
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Yes politics has something to do with this. Politics has something to do with EVERYTHING, but an even better explanation is as long as your productivity outweighs your baggage, regardless of what that is, you will have a place on a team.

Greg Hardy beat a woman, was released by the Panthers, but still could play so the Cowboys pick him up.

Ray Rice beat a woman, was released by the Ravens and nobody took a glance at him because he was a marginal talent (at best) during this period of his career.
 

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So blm is Marxist? All members feel the same? Trump is racist, so guess all Republicans are too

Considering the two founders of BLM are open Marxists, the organization advocates for “disruption of the nuclear family”, and several chapters call for the dismantling of capitalism, yes it is fair to say BLM is a Marxist organization.
 

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Yes politics has something to do with this. Politics has something to do with EVERYTHING, but an even better explanation is as long as your productivity outweighs your baggage, regardless of what that is, you will have a place on a team.

Greg Hardy beat a woman, was released by the Panthers, but still could play so the Cowboys pick him up.

Ray Rice beat a woman, was released by the Ravens and nobody took a glance at him because he was a marginal talent (at best) during this period of his career.
The year previous he was a 1000 yard rusher so that doesn’t make sense. He was solid for his entire career.
 

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Considering the two founders of BLM are open Marxists, the organization advocates for “disruption of the nuclear family”, and several chapters call for the dismantling of capitalism, yes it is fair to say BLM is a Marxist organization.
You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue what you are talking about because they are saying it literally not as being part of some group. It would be like taking the phrase “ I love Ice cream” and creating a radical group out of it and every time you hear someone say that think they are apart of the group.
 

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Saw that Enes was traded from the Celtics to Houston, then waived. I know he was only averaging 3.7 ppg and 4.6 rbg the season, but he was only playing 11.8 min/game, so that's not horrible.

I wonder if his political views are costing him some longevity in the league?

I'm hopeful some team will pick him up for a playoff push.
Yes
 

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You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue what you are talking about because they are saying it literally not as being part of some group. It would be like taking the phrase “ I love Ice cream” and creating a radical group out of it and every time you hear someone say that think they are apart of the group.

All I did was correctly point out that BLM the organization is in fact a Marxist organization. If that’s upsetting to you, it’s not my fault.
 

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Are you trying to turn him into a hoops version of Kaepernick?

No, I don’t think politics have anything to do with this. He’s been a marginal player hovering on the edge of this for years. Some folks mistakenly assumed he was a better player than he really is simply because he makes the news so often for being outspoken politically.

But I also suspect this won’t be the end of his NBA career. He’ll probably be picked up again by someone …even if only on very short term contracts.
He was averaging a double double or close to it when he was getting good minutes wasn’t he? Talking a couple years ago, I guess.
 
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You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue what you are talking about because they are saying it literally not as being part of some group. It would be like taking the phrase “ I love Ice cream” and creating a radical group out of it and every time you hear someone say that think they are apart of the group.
You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue…”

Maybe that’s the problem.
 

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He was averaging a double double or close to it when he was getting good minutes wasn’t he? Talking a couple years ago, I guess.
Well, I stand corrected. I checked and you’re right. He averaged a double double (11 and 11) in Portland just last year. Didn’t realize that.

But he’s still a very limited player by NBA standards. He has one special skill: rebounding. But is a very poor defender who ain’t a shooter or ballhandler either. Not a lot of demand for such a limited package in today’s NBA.
 
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Well, I stand corrected. You’re right. He was average a double double type numbers in Portland very recently. Didn’t realize that.

But he’s still a very limited player by NBA standards. He has one special skill: rebounding. But also known as a poor defender who ain’t a shooter or ballhandler either. Not a lot of demand for such a limited package in today’s NBA.
Agree completely. Would you say hr was a bust of sorts? He was drafted like #3 wasn’t he? I would think teams expect more production out of that draft spot.
 
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Enes tells the truth and gets blackballed. china is EVIL.

blm kneelers get honored and slurped all over. blm is marxist.

strange how facts get distorted.

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You realize ENES supported BLM, right?

Also, he is just playing the uneducated for fools. Do you not know this all started after Nike would not give him a shoe deal he wanted. He still gladly accepted the million dollar NBA contracts funded in part by China. He still eagerly accepted the jersey sales money from Nike that is also aided by sales from China...where the jerseys are made in sweatshops. And he is still out trying to get his own shoe deal.

Enes has discovered that if he plays the other side, he has an entire other base to draw from that other players don't. He doesn't care about anyone but himself and him to maximize is earning potential. He says what you want to hear, but does what he wants to do.

Can you tell us how much money and time Enes has contributed to aiding the Uyghurs? What about the other countless human rights violations occruing in China?

But....but...but..he wore UK colors for a year!!! 🙃
 

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Considering the two founders of BLM are open Marxists, the organization advocates for “disruption of the nuclear family”, and several chapters call for the dismantling of capitalism, yes it is fair to say BLM is a Marxist organization.
That is like saying the Founders of our Constitution owned slaves so America must be, has to be, absolutely is a Plantation Slave State. When I marched in our small KY town for BLM we were joined by the Police Chief, the Mayor, and everyday Kentucky Folks, I failed to see anyone carrying around copies of Das Kapital, I'm amazed at how extreme and rock hard folks views have become
 
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Agree completely. Would you say hr was a bust of sorts? He was drafted like #3 wasn’t he? I would think teams expect more production out of that draft spot.
I wouldn’t call him a bust, he’s lasted over a decade and put up nice rebounding numbers along the way. But, yeah, he’s certainly been less than is expected of the 3rd overall pick.
 
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That is like saying the Founders of our Constitution owned slaves so America must be, has to be, absolutely is a Plantation Slave State. When I marched in our small KY town for BLM we were joined by the Police Chief, the Mayor, and everyday Kentucky Folks, I failed to see anyone carrying around copies of Das Kapital, I'm amazed at how extreme and rock hard folks views have become

So what in my post is incorrect?

If someone says they are part of an ideology, starts an organization whose own website states goals of that ideology, then that organization uses tactics favored by that ideology, at what point can we say the organization is what it says it is? What else do you need?

BLM itself is Marxist by its own admission. Now, yes, there are many people that haven’t been informed of that or know that. But it doesn’t change that BLM is Marxist. Join them if you wish.
 

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All I did was correctly point out that BLM the organization is in fact a Marxist organization. If that’s upsetting to you, it’s not my fault.
The Mission statement of BLM is as follows..." to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes," the group’s website says. "In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic and political power to thrive.

Now, take out the word Black...to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on communities by the state and vigilantes," the group’s website says. "In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-color, where every person has the social, economic and political power to thrive.

Isn't that what everyone wants for themselves? Then why does it bother some when some communities strive to better themselves? Is it because some are afraid or intimidated that they may lose something in the process when other communities get elevated?

And as far as it being a Marxist organization, one of the founders was quoted as saying that they were "trained Marxists" and was referring to having an ideological frame and building a movement that would benefit the Black community. BLM's empathetic support for gender identity politics sets it apart from historical Marxism.

Those that say that it is a Marxist organization lack the understanding of what Marxist is and second they use it as a dog whistle to put it down like saying "Nazi"
 

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In regards to basketball, when you're a horrible defender, but average less than 4 points a game, it's going to be difficult to keep an NBA gig.
 

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The Mission statement of BLM is as follows..." to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes," the group’s website says. "In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic and political power to thrive.

Now, take out the word Black...to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on communities by the state and vigilantes," the group’s website says. "In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-color, where every person has the social, economic and political power to thrive.

Isn't that what everyone wants for themselves? Then why does it bother some when some communities strive to better themselves? Is it because some are afraid or intimidated that they may lose something in the process when other communities get elevated?

And as far as it being a Marxist organization, one of the founders was quoted as saying that they were "trained Marxists" and was referring to having an ideological frame and building a movement that would benefit the Black community. BLM's empathetic support for gender identity politics sets it apart from historical Marxism.

Those that say that it is a Marxist organization lack the understanding of what Marxist is and second they use it as a dog whistle to put it down like saying "Nazi"

Yes, they edited their website to take out disruption of the nuclear family once it received backlash. Another trait of Marxism - hide your intentions if too controversial.

Thats the brilliance of BLM - take a slogan that no one can attack without losing credibility and make it the face of your organization. Just because something has a name doesn’t mean that’s what it is. Do you think North Korea is a “People’s Republic”?

I’m fully aware of what Marxism is. I’ll slide the word cultural in front of it if it makes you feel better.

Look up the groups the founder is tied to, in particular, the Labor/Community Strategy Center, and tell me she’s not a Marxist. I guess admitting it and joining other Marxist groups means she’s actually a member of enlightenment theory right?

If you’re unwilling to see or admit what something is, especially when it’s openly admitted by its own account, it’s apparent the narrative is more important than facts. So have at it.
 
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Agree completely. Would you say hr was a bust of sorts? He was drafted like #3 wasn’t he? I would think teams expect more production out of that draft spot.
Yes, just like #2 overall pick MKG, he's been a bust as a #3 pick. When you're drafted that high, you're expected to produce more than 11/8 (Kanter) and 8/5 (MKG). I'll give MKG the nod as a really good defender, but Kanter couldn't guard a fence post.
 
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You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue what you are talking about because they are saying it literally not as being part of some group. It would be like taking the phrase “ I love Ice cream” and creating a radical group out of it and every time you hear someone say that think they are apart of the group.

A good argument for people educating themselves before aligning with any group, but particularly ones like BLM. Leaders of crappy organizations like BLM rely on the uninformed to give them "gravitas" so they can con even more people out of their money.
 

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That is like saying the Founders of our Constitution owned slaves so America must be, has to be, absolutely is a Plantation Slave State. When I marched in our small KY town for BLM we were joined by the Police Chief, the Mayor, and everyday Kentucky Folks, I failed to see anyone carrying around copies of Das Kapital, I'm amazed at how extreme and rock hard folks views have become
They’re a Marxist organization, whether you want to accept it or not. Whether you like it or not. That’s what they are.
 

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You realize that 99% of people that say “Black Lives Matter” have no clue what you are talking about because they are saying it literally not as being part of some group. It would be like taking the phrase “ I love Ice cream” and creating a radical group out of it and every time you hear someone say that think they are apart of the group.
This is, in fact, a falsehood. They are a national organization with both state and local chapters. Follow their funding for a very eye opening experience. I think you will find Mandarian will be helpful.
 
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