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lol, so?
Please tell me you’re not trying to insinuate Trump is involved in the Epstein ****? That narrative has long been debunked.
Trump was at one point friends with Epstein. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002, before there were any public allegations of wrongdoing against multimillionaire money manager. “He’s a lot of fun to be with," Trump said then. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
"I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island,” Trump said in a social media post in January.
Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times.
"I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island,” Trump said in a social media post in January.
Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times.
He kicked him out of his club then worked with Prosecutor.
I understand defending Harris and Walz policies is impossible so now you run with this. But adjust your ankle monitor and start defending your tribes candidates.
Their policies
Not difficult to understand WHY the list hasn't been released. A LOT of elites and politicians would be on it. And Maxwell's been pretty silent.
Trump wasn't involved in that. He kicked him out of his resort and assisted the Prosecutors back in the 2000's. His DOJ arrested him the second time. If Trump wanted him dead it would have happened before he made it to jail.
Then he has no reason not to release it. But if he doesn't????
Keeping the list concealed would show Trump is part of the same swamp he wants to drain.
No it doesn't. Nor is everyone who ever associated with him guilty. Though the ones who continued to associate with him after the first conviction that Trump assisted with are probably guilty as ****. I would argue that Bill Clinton wasn't being blackmailed either. He was part of the blackmailing operation. He probably kept his hookers above the legal age. The entire thing will need investigated again to ensure those that were targets that didn't participate aren't dragged into it. I will always believe Epstein was working for the Clintons until proven otherwise.
Stop being narrow-minded. What I said doesn’t have to mean trump raped a minor. Not releasing the list to protect the elites, donors and politicians who did would make him part of the swamp.
I'm not being narrow minded. I telling what anyone who has looked into knows this. Trump cut ties with him when he harassed a young woman at his property. He assisted in his first conviction. Releasing names that were verified to have participated should happen. Releasing names of targets of people they wanted to blackmail that didn't participate should be handled more carefully. The good news you are going to get Trump for the Entire 4 years. There will be no doubt left he will have done everything he could to drain the swamp.
Going to be alot of disappointment when the Conspiracy Theroies don't match what many hope.
Anna Paulina Luna to lead task force on declassification of JFK assassination records, Epstein client list
Luna will lead the 'Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets'
Here is why some are calling for the list to be released. The problem is this isn't the list you need. All these people aren't guilty of anything and alot stopped associating with him after he was investigated in 2008.
Patel will need to assign someone to go through the evidence that was collected after his second arrest and Maxwell's arrest. Then you have to be careful not to release names of innocent people that did nothing.
https://trc.taboola.com/ndtv-ndtvmo...zYPQ&tbu=9ce6121b-ac36-4ff2-8bf5-08b328524c52
Here is the full list of people named in Epstein's files:
Patel will need to assign someone to go through the evidence that was collected after his second arrest and Maxwell's arrest. Then you have to be careful not to release names of innocent people that did nothing.
https://trc.taboola.com/ndtv-ndtvmo...zYPQ&tbu=9ce6121b-ac36-4ff2-8bf5-08b328524c52
Here is the full list of people named in Epstein's files:
- Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend, sentenced in 2022 to 20 years in prison in sex-trafficking
- Prince Andrew, second son of Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain
- Bill Clinton, former US president
- Donald Trump, former US president
- Hillary Clinton, former first lady to Bill Clinton
- David Copperfield, American stage magician
- John Connelly, New York police detective turned investigative journalist who investigated Epstein
- Alan Dershowitz, prolific lawyer
- Leonardo DiCaprio, actor famous for his roles in Titanic
- Al Gore, former US vice president
- Stephen Hawking, renowned theoretical physicist
- Ehud Barak, former Israeli prime minister
- Michael Jackson, famed musician known as the "King of Pop"
- Marvin Minksy, artificial intelligence pioneer
- Kevin Spacey, American actor
- George Lucas, American film director
- Jean Luc Brunel, French model agency boss
- Cate Blanchett, Australian actor
- Naomi Campbell, British model
- Sharon Churcher, British journalist
- Bruce Willis, retired American actor
- Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico
- Cameron Diaz, American actress
- Glenn Dubin, American investor
- Eva Andersson-Dubin, former Miss Sweden and wife of Glenn Dubin
- Noam Chomsky, linguist and political philosopher
- Tom Pritzker, American tycoon and philanthropist
- Chris Tucker, American comedian and actor
- Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, former wife of Prince Andrew
- Robert F Kennedy Jr, American politician and conspiracy theorist
- James Michael Austrich
- Juan and Maria Alessi, husband and wife working at Epstein's home in Florida
- Janusz Banasiak, served as Epstein's Palm Beach house manager
- Bella Klein or Klen, former accountant in Epstein's New York office
- Leslie or Lesley Groff, Epstein's former secretary
- Victoria Bean
- Rebecca Boylan
- Dana Burns
- Ron Eppinger, sex trafficker
- Daniel Estes
- Annie Farmer, accused Epstein of sexual assault
- Maria Farmer, Annie Farmer's sister
- Anouska De Georgiou, a model who accused Epstein of rape
- Louis Freeh, former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
- Alexandra Fekkai, son of celebrity hairstylist
- Jo Jo Fontanella, Epstein's butler
- Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Virginia Roberts
- Lynn Miller, mother of Virginia Giuffre
- Crystal Figueroa
- Anthony Figueroa, Virginia Robert's former boyfriend
- Eric Gany
- Meg Garvin
- Sheridan Gibson-Butte,
- Ross Gow, Maxwell's press agent
- Fred Graff
- Robert Giuffre
- Philip Guderyon
- Alexandra Hall
- Joanna Harrison
- Shannon Harrison
- Victoria Hazel
- Brittany Henderson
- Brett Jaffe
- Forest Jones
- Sarah Kellen,
- Adriana Ross, Epstein's former assistant
- Carol Kess
- Dr Steven Olson
- Stephen Kaufmann
- Wendy Leigh, author
- Peter Listerman
- Tom Lyons
- Nadia Marcinkova
- Bob Meister
- Jamie Melanson
- Donald Morrell
- David Mullen
- David Norr
- Joe Pagano
- May Paluga
- Stanley Pottinger
- Detective Joe Recarey
- Chief Michael Reiter
- Rinaldo and Debra Rizzo, husband and wife who worked for Epstein's alleged friend Glenn Dubin
- Sky Roberts
- Kimblerley Roberts
- Lynn Roberts
- Haley Robson
- Dave Rodgers, private jet pilot for Epstein
- Alfredo Rodriquez, butler at Epstein's Florida home
- Scott Rothinson
- Forest Sawyer
- Dough Schoetlle,investigator
- Johanna Sjoberg
- Cecilia Stein
- Marianne Strong
- Mark Tafoya
- Emmy Taylor, Maxwell's ex-personal assistant
- Brent Tindall
- Kevin Thompson
- Ed Tuttle
- Les Wexner, former business partner of Epstein
- Abigail Wexner, wife of Lex Wexner
- Cresenda Valdes
- Emma Vaghan
- Anthony Valladares
- Christina Venero, licensed massage therapist
- Maritza Vazquez
- Vicky Ward, investigative journalist
- Jarred Weisfield
- Sharon White
- Courtney Wild
- Daniel Wilson
- Mark Zeff, New York decorator
- Alfredo Rodriguez, Epstein's former household manager
- Dr Chris Donahue, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Wah Wah, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Judith Lightfoot, psychologist who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Karen Kutikoff, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Carol Hayek, psychiatrist who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr John Harris, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Darshanee Majaliyana, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr John Harris, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Mona Devansean, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Scott Robert Geiger, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Dr Michele Streeter, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
- Donna Oliver, physician assistant who treated Virginia Giuffre
I just gave you a long list above. Not everyone he tried to blackmail is guilty of something though. Not every name on these list are guilty of something. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. People that hung out with him after his first arrest are definitely suspicious as hell we should agree on though.
Like Bill Gates.
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The "list" you provided......interesting that the person who released it chose to leave some notable names off it. :joy: :joy: :joy: Be honest, that is NOT the full list. That's bullsh!t and you know it. Pretty obvious why you chose to post that. But whatever.
Also, you make it seem like "oh, well Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago...........and 2008.........and the investigation.........Do you honestly think that Epstein SUDDENLY became "known" by his "friends" about what he was doing in 2008? They KNEW in the 1980's and 1990's and early 2000's. THEY ALL KNEW......including your guy, who even admitted "Jeffery likes them young".
And as for the "investigation" that got him locked up, I can't believe with your conspiracy filled mind that you can't see possible reasons for it to "suddenly" happen. Kind of the same as Diddy now. Let me help you out:
If someone has dirt on you, and you have some sort of position of power and that dirt can hurt, how can you prevent it from being released and damaging you?
1. Make the person seem not credible........arresting that person for horrible crimes would be a step in that direction......don't you think?
2. Where's the one place that a person can be "taken care of" to keep them quiet, more than any other place? Prison, perhaps?
What I'm saying is that MANY of the social elites, Hollywood, and our politicians have their dirty hands in with Epstein's establishment. Now that he's dead, the "list" can be "discredited" by claiming like you have "well, just because you are on the list doesn't mean you were involved", because who is left to say otherwise? Maxwell? She ain't talking, why is that? No plea deal, no cooperating with authorities to uncover more truths? Why is that?
People are being protected. There is no "transparency". With all the information that gets "leaked", I find it interesting that Epstein and Diddy's "lists" are as tight lipped as anything we've ever seen.
You can answer that as well as I can. Those on the list that have something to "lose", that have the power and clout to hold it back. Take your pick.......one of them.......dozens of them.........all of them?
I said it wasn't the full list. It was a list from Maxwell's case. That's my point. Not everyone on all the names gathered is guilty. So what are you hoping to do with all the names brought up during Investigations? The SOL has ran out. So other than smearing innocent people who were slandered nothing is going to happen. That's not me trying to protect anyone but stating the obvious of knowing who was really being blackmailed and was getting their names dragged through the mud is going to be hard to prove.
So I don't need your help. I more than understand how this type of operation is ran. So unless you want to watch child porn videos he may or may not of made to blackmail people. You are going to have to trust the New Attorney General and the New Congressional Committee to inform you of who was really guilty.
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Hunter Biden’s laptop and the Biden crime family dealings were covered up pretty well too. As is how the Obama’s made all their money. ****, the FBI was helping the Biden’s hide their crimes.
Everything is a "theory" until it's proven. Just like the ones you and others push.
So protect the guilty so the "innocent doesn't get smeared"? F**k me. That's amazing.
Should I trust the new Secretary of Health and Human Services? He's on the "list". :joy: :joy: :joy:
You left out of bunch of others in the past. Obvious you only aimed at one side of the isle. It's ok, I get it.
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Is big mad his wack gotchas and whatabouts aren’t getting any traction.
Flailing worse than Moe and his Salon articles.
Is big mad his wack gotchas and whatabouts aren’t getting any traction.
Flailing worse than Moe and his Salon articles.
You are the worst debater I have ever seen lmao. It's absolutely hilarious how often you put words in people's mouths in attempt to save your weak argument. L.O.L.
Does that mean he was guilty or Epstein did his mission and got close to him so you could cry about him being the HSI Secretary? That's how the game is played. So like I said. Once Patel is sworn in he can look into the FBI information with Bondi and work with the Congressional Committee to determine who is guilty and who got played. Then they can release names. Until then you can wait a little longer to see if this will benefit you politically since you don't want to believe me when I tell you it won't. Unfortunately for you they aren't going to release young girls having sex with old men videos.
I'm not debating. Just showing how your team is just as bad as my team at protecting criminals and pedophiles, even electing or appointing some of them to high positions of power.
Fallen for what? If you think I voted for Trump for the release of the Epstein list, JFK files, and UAP files, you’re high AF. I voted for him for everything that is happening right now with Doge, Hegseth, Tulsi, Bessent, Bondi, Homan, and Patel.
"Most transparent government ever".......... :joy: How's consumer prices going?
No dumbass if they had any real evidence on the current Administration they would have used it before the election. You being desperate isn't my problem.