I was watching ESPN at the Y when they posted the NBA players with the most 50 point games in NBA history. I didn’t note who they had for the most but I think it was in the 40’s. They didn’t put up Wilt Chamberlain who had 115 of them. It’s like their NBA history starts in 2000. They’ve ignored Wilt before with their stats. They should be embarrassed. It’s like having a sports show run by middle schoolers.
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Other than for the actual sporting events, I watch as little of ESPN as possible. They lost me a long time ago.
He averaged just over 50 for an entire season in 79 games
Harden dazzles in first 50-point game with Clips
James Harden recorded the 24th 50-point game of his career, and his first as a member of the Clippers, on Wednesday night in a 123-115 win over the Pistons.
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"Wilt Chamberlain has the NBA record with 118 games of 50 or more points, followed by Michael Jordan with 31 and Bryant with 25."
I think you're lying, or you misunderstood.
Maybe they said current players? But yea Wilt blows them away. Jordan averaged 37 a game when the NBA was a much more defensive league and teams averaged 20 less point per game than they do now. I realize 3 pt shooting accounts for some of that but they only care about Lerbon and current players and qualifying them as the greatest ever when they aren't even in the discussion
It's more likely that you missed the context of it, than that ESPN is "lying". It was likely something like "since xxxx year", or "active players".
Disagree about Lebron. You may not like him and there is legit question whether he is a GOAT but he is definitely in the conversation.
I'm not singling you out but I don't get the Lebron hate. He's never in the news for questionable actions or attitude or off court stuff and plays his a$$ off and if its because of him marketing himself he was way ahead of the curve and as far as that goes Penn State football players say hi.
Wonder if Wilt being the biggest guy in the league until Kareem Abdul-Jabbar joined (near the end of Wilt's career) had anything to do with his massive scoring success? Or that the only other 'big man' who could play at the time was Bill Russell? Oh yeah - there were only eight teams in the NBA when he began (there were 17 when he retired). Pfft.
Same could be said for Jim Brown. He was able to dominate in a league when DLine were essentially the same size as he was.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. He does everything right and has always been the hardest worker and the best teammate. His "crime", and the reason some vilify him, was that he had the audacity to speak out against Donald Trump and Fox News (remember "shut up and dribble").
I don’t hate him, I actually saw him play as a kid over in Ohio. He was probably about 14. One of my former high school players gave me some info about him, though, my kid went to the summer league with the Lakers and a few other practices and camps said that he’s not a very good teammate and is an exceptional whiner when it comes to when he doesn’t win everything at practice.
And I believe the capacity of Hershey arena exceeds the Beav, based on the number of people who claimed to have seen the game live.I love how his best game ever was at the Hershey Arena.
Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominating player ever in the NBA...period.
For his time in the NBA, sure. Put Shaq in the 1962 NBA and let your imagination run wild.
Likely. How Wilt managed to psych himself out on free throws is puzzling.
Edit: Wilt hit 61.3% of his free throws in 1962, the only year he was over 60%. His nadir was 38% in 1967. Lifetime Shaq was 52.7%, Wilt 51.1%.
Actual ESPN lie, from the morning of 11/2/24, has South Dakota Nittany Lions playing the Buckeyes.
I think the off-putting thing about Lebron is his role the assembly of super teams to win championships. I loved the NBA in the days of the Magic vs Bird, MJ vs the Pistons, etc. It's hard to imagine any of those guys joining forces to win a championship, and the rivalries made it great. He wasn't the only guy involved, and I found KD leaving OKC for the Warriors right after losing to them in the finals equally unappealing. That said, he's the face of the league and first guy people think of when topic comes up. There's no question about his on-court performance, work ethic, or professionalism. In those regards, he's absolutely on par with the greatest to play the game.
I didn’t have the sound so I may have missed something but I did see IN NBA HISTORY on the screen with the other graphic. It was their statement. It’s at least mistaken and such an obvious and enormous error that it’s reasonable to suspect that it was not an honest mistake.
The league passed several rules to make it harder for Wilt to score. I have 2 favorite Wilt memories. First, he was a playing the Celts in a playoff game. Wilt never fouled out of a game but got his 5th foul with a couple minutes left in the game. The next time down the court the Celts threw the ball down low to see if Russell, who had done little offensively that game, could foul him out. Russell made a few moves put up a shot which Wilt blocked cleanly. Next time down the court for the Celts, same plan, same result. Next time down the Celts throw the ball down low to Russell and he throws the ball back out. Second memory was a game against Jabbar and the Bucks. One of the Bucks knocked Happy Hairston down and he accidentally low bridged Jabbar. As Hairston was starting to stand up, Jabbar pulled his arm back as if he was going to punch Hairston. Wilt stepped between the two of them and put his finger in Jabbar’s chest and he just backed up and put his arm down. Pfft yourself.
That would be interesting. Chamberlain played in the era of great centers. There was Wilt, Bill Russell, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld. Nate Thurmond, Bob Lanier, Kareem etc. etc.
Most of those players came up in ‘65 or later. In the early part of that decade, there was no one who could hope to contain Wilt other than Russell. I mean, even Walt Bellamy had terrific points stats back then and once the other guys you mentioned showed up, Bellamy was overmatched.
Whatever. Wilt is in every conversation as the greatest ever. It’s not my job to convince anybody that he wasn’t.
Most people think Wilt was called the "Big Dipper" for his basketball prowess...not even close. I became friends with Jim Reid, who spent a year or 2 with the 76ers. Around 1970-71, he was playing for the Sunbury Mercuries of the EBA. Long before Wilt's greatest talents became public knowledge...Jim would entertain us at parties with the exploits of the great one.
Not only the greatest basketball player. Perhaps the greatest athlete of all time. Legend has it he and Jim Brown raced at a New Year's party with Wilt winning. I love Ali, but do we doubt how that would have ended? How many long triple and high jump medals could he have won?
Here is a screenshot from yesterday's Sports Center from my DVR. I'm on the west coast, so this would be 7am et. Perhaps you had sweat in your eyes.
The ESPN series about the Bulls painted Jordan in a similar light. I think these guys are just so good and so competitive that they won’t accept anything less from themselves and anyone around them. It rubs some the wrong way.
Alpha Dogs are often selfish, jealous, divas. There’s a story of when Shaq went to speak on behalf of the team to Kobe about passing the ball more to get others involved. Supposedly Shaq gave him the ”There’s no ‘I’ in TEAM” cliche. To which Kobe responded, “No, but there is an ‘M’ and an ‘E’ motherf###er.”
Some people like to diminish Phil Jackson’s accomplishments by claiming that it was easy to win championships with generational talents such as Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq. To which I like to point out that for as great as Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq were, only one of them won an NBA Championship without Phil Jackson, with Shaq winning in 2008 with Pat ‘Chopped Liver’ Riley as his coach.
I think what separates great coaches from really good coaches is the ability to manage top talent within a team environment.
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Kobe was notoriously selfish. The dust up with Karl Malone when he was a very young player was one of the first indications.
Top talent are often raised with everyone kissing their a$$ and bending the rules since they were little. The same goes for Karl Malone as well.
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Absolutely. Although, in this particular incident, IIRC, Malone was trying to help a young Kobe and Kobe basically said I don’t need your help. (F off).