Well. there is simply not much data to go on since the last game was played in such catch-up fashion. What we definitely don't want is for the Bama game to be prelude to the same result against Clemson. Or BC or anyone, lol.
And my post is not to slam the coaches or players, but just to discuss what might be the philosophy going forward. It's probably not hard to see where I'm at. With all that beef(can I say that )up front, 3 yards and a cloud of dust is very appealing to me. A lead back and a dive mentality.
with young qb's, especially malik, you'll never see them under center. kids don't know how to take a snap anymore and the deception of hiding the ball is gone. when the defense cannot see where the ball is and if it's been handed off or not it's a huge advantage. when the defense always sees the ball in shotgun, they see the handoff so you can never establish the run game before the passing game. they are not thinking which way the play is going to go. and since young qb's don;t take snaps from center you are forced to get the passing game going first to establish the run. most qb's going into nfl are chided for never having taken snaps under center. teddy took snaps under center as did brohm. but lately qb's coming out of high school never do. old school stuff that doesn't work in the high school spread offense.
He started. I think he was a casualty of playing with Pass. Only got 2 carries, 3 yards. He did fumble but we didn’t lose possession.
There is a significant difference between the spread offense and the Pro style Petrino used to run. The pro style was his offense, now he has completely went into a full spread offense which isn't something he has coached until Lamar showed up. I really don't understand the shift if his offensive philosophy.
Sadly I agree. If Petrino is going to stick with the RPO spread system - he needs to hire an OC / QB coach that has that system as his background and put Nick in charge of the team’s laundry.
Then he will continue to flounder and eventually be fired. Even with the most dynamic duel threat quarterback in 10 years it didn't really work.
The guys that we have are fine but part of what comes with big WRs - and the ones that we can get here - is decreased ability to gain separation. The big problem in my opinion though is the lack of creativity in play calling. Petrino previously was a genius in adapting his playbook to the talent that he had - now he seemingly relies on having a QB who can escape the pocket when his plays break down.
And we also had quarterbacks that understood defenses, could make adjustments, and make the right call. Lefors and Brohm were extremely intelligent and could handle anything Petrino 1.0 could throw at them.
Another mostly false opinion based on not understanding what you’re looking at. Petrino didn’t throw the same things at SL and BB - because they had completely different skill sets. He tailored his play calling to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. Had he simply called the same plays - neither would have had the same level of success.
And part of their skill set was a very strong grasp of the game and high intelligence. They were a big reason we could run a complex offense that kept defenses on their heels.
Of course they were smart - that’s not the point or, the point of contention. 99% of talented QBs success at every level is driven by the talent surrounding them and, the plays called for them.
You can only run a system that your quarterback is capable of comprehending. We have been limited in that regard since we don't have a Lefors or a Brohm and the sad thing is we no longer even recruit quarterbacks like them.
Ummm - no offense to Lefors but no P5 programs recruit 5’11” LH QBs who can’t throw the ball 45 yards in the air. While not as highly rated - no SI covers to his credit - Pass is in the Brohm mold - a pocket QB. Only he’s bigger, stronger and faster. Doesn’t look like he’ll be nearly as good but, a lot of that is on Petrino to coach him up and put him in the spots to succeed.
Stefan was 6'1 and had the most accurate arm of any quarterback we ever had. He was not John Elway but adequate in terms of arm strength. The obvious difference between Brohm and Pass is Brohm understood the game more than most college quarterbacks when he arrived here and was very intelligent.
Umm no - Lefors might have been listed as 6’1” but was in fact, not. How do I know that? Well I’ve met / spoken with him on multiple occasions and at 6’, I’m taller than he is.
Which he has done for every quarterback that played for him including Cantwell until he came back here. What happened to that system? Now he creates systems that don't fit the personnel he has. Just another aspect of the failure of 2.0.
I’ve been saying for four years that Petrino’s ineffectiveness - relative to his last stint - is due in equal parts to his decline as an offensive innovator and defenses catching up to his system.
I never saw any evidence that defenses caught up with his old system. He was doing quite well at Arkansas and even WKU with it. Will Gardner was just a so so quarterback and the old system seemed to work pretty well even with him before he got hurt. McGee apparently had a lot to do with the change in mentality. Then Petrino swerved into LJ and was sold on it even after questionable results with Bonnafon. What do you think the chances of finding another LJ are? As good as LJ was as a runner and occasionally as a passer I still never thought the offense was consistent and effective, even with him. The running game outside of LJ was not effective. Also, using that type of offense has apparently eroded his entire offensive system.
He is trying to run that offense with Pass. It doesn't seem to be working very well.
