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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.
 
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Cal has really young rosters, thats why he trips up on the road so often. Young guys have trouble on the road. Aside from what I think are cals issues allowing too much nonsense on the court, This post is gonna go nowhere.
 
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I don't care how many games a coach loses in the regular season. I care about tournament success. INTELLIGENT UK fans only care about that. Tubby sucked in the regular season and the tourney year after year and underachived. I'll evaluate Cal and this team at the end of the season. Plus, I don't care about today's loss. Talk to me when UK loses a game once Willis is back...we miss his shooting and rebounding.
 

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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.




Stupid take, glad you wait 3 months between posts.

The coaching hasnt been the problem with this team.

Criticize the coach for recruiting for this team, maybe, but he cant get them all every year, especially in a down year.

Too many holes, too many players that simply cannot perform basic basketball skills.
 
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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.
What's your point?
 

ORCAT

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Here we go again, these no number posters show up with this crap after every loss and then never heard from again when we win.
 
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Losses really bring out the wackos. I'll say there has been games where Cal has been out coaches or could of done better. but today was't one of those days. That loss isn't on Cal. It's on the players on the court today.
 

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Why don't you gladly pack your pom pom's and go root for another team. My goodness we have a few pathetic fans that love to show theirselves every chance they get.
 

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Worst post of the year. EVERY TEAM is losing road games you dolt! We nearly went undefeated last season. We have had 1 down season which included our best player getting a season ending injury and this season, while still unknown, has what seems to be a bust in what EVERYONE was touting as a lottery pick in the NBA.

I honestly fear for our team after Cal leaves. If this is your outlook on Cal after the seasons he has had, what in God's name was your opinion of Tubby?
 

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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.
Or we could have a lying scumbag POS coach like Louisville has.... and win less each year
 
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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.

Comparing Cal to Tubby is silly. Tubby inherited a National Championship team. His teams got progressively worse as his stay here went on. Cal inherited a team that was barely good enough to compete at the local YMCA. Cal brought in an NBA level roster and his teams have continued to get better. Next year is going to be historic. Also Tubby didn't have to worry about nearly 100% roster turnover every year. I'll take Cal over Tubby any day of the week. It's not even close.
 
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Comparing Cal to Tubby is silly. Tubby inherited a National Championship team. His teams got progressively worse as his stay here went on. Cal inherited a team that was barely good enough to compete at the local YMCA. Cal brought in an NBA level roster and his teams have continued to get better. Next year is going to be historic. Also Tubby didn't have to worry about nearly 100% roster turnover every year. I'll take Cal over Tubby any day of the week. It's not even close.

He compared Tubby to Cal in that spout?:joy:

louisville fans...
 

.S&C.

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On the plus side, could have been much worse..Vandy missed a ton of open shots

kantuck....lol.......you guys have the lamest nick names I've ever seen. LPT is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Get more creative.

how does it feel to have your a**hole gaped open by UK every chance we get? enjoy having that banner stripped, cheaters.
 

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That straw man is so old. "DERR HURR JUST CUZ YOU CRITICIZE CAL DON'T MEAN YER A TROLL" *Proceeds to make a dozen awful arguments that don't hold up at all if you examine Cal with the same lens as other coaches*


This thread hasn't even been up 25 minutes, and I count at least 4 very vocal pro-Cal regulars who are perfectly willing to criticize him (Aike, S&C, Poe, and me).

My chief complaint lately is that he needs to put an end to the Briscoe jump shot confidence experiment.

But it's really, really, really easy for anybody who posts regularly to catch the difference between a troll and someone who actually cares about the team and wants Cal to do well.

You are on the troll side. Comfortably. I don't believe that anyone is ignorant enough to not see how other legendary coaches with comparable talent per roster (Self, K, soon to be Sean Miller) also are vulnerable in conference road games when they have young squads.

And you talk about Cal not developing non-star players properly and dare to list Willis among them? Are we talking about the same Derek Willis that none of the big boys recruited and now might possibly have an NBA future?

And using his Final Four run (only duplicated twice in history) against him? With the completely laughable "ceiling" argument? That "ceiling" concept that only exists in your mind, and does not actually affect any coach in reality who keeps producing quality rosters? And one that you have to make exceptions for, because Cal has gotten past the F4 round many times, including his championship? I refuse to believe you're that dumb.

The "ceiling" is a fabrication by you. Sean Miller will make Final Fours. Cal will win more titles. And after that, you will still pop up randomly to state that those 2/3 title years were exceptions when he loses some other tough conference road game. And you will get blasted, again.
 
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irishcat1965

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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.
Stop posting and get a lobotomy.
 
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uk_king_cat2

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Lots of this going on....
 
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That straw man is so old. "DERR HURR JUST CUZ YOU CRITICIZE CAL DON'T MEAN YER A TROLL" *Proceeds to make a dozen awful arguments that don't hold up at all if you examine Cal with the same lens as other coaches*


This thread hasn't even been up 25 minutes, and I count at least 4 very vocal pro-Cal regulars who are perfectly willing to criticize him (Aike, S&C, Poe, and me).

My chief complaint lately is that he needs to put an end to the Briscoe jump shot confidence experiment.

But it's really, really, really easy for anybody who posts regularly to catch the difference between a troll and someone who actually cares about the team and wants Cal to do well.

You are on the troll side. Comfortably. I don't believe that anyone is ignorant enough to not see how other legendary coaches with comparable talent per roster (Self, K, soon to be Sean Miller) also are vulnerable in conference road games when they have young squads.

And you talk about Cal not developing non-star players properly and dare to list Willis among them? Are we talking about the same Derek Willis that none of the big boys recruited and now might possibly have an NBA future?

And using his Final Four run (only duplicated twice in history) against him? With the completely laughable "ceiling" argument? That "ceiling" concept that only exists in your mind, and does not actually affect any coach in reality who keeps producing quality rosters? And one that you have to make exceptions for, because Cal has gotten past the F4 round many times, including his championship? I refuse to believe you're that dumb.

The "ceiling" is a fabrication by you. Sean Miller will make Final Fours. Cal will win more titles. And after that, you will still pop up randomly to state that those 2/3 title years were exceptions when he loses some other tough conference road game. And you will get blasted, again.

oooon the money....
 

Atrain7732

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You're an idiot.

Couldn't have said it better.

I assume this doucher is also posting the same drivel on Dukes board. Coach K has also lost some head scratchers this year. At least 3 games to unranked teams off top of my head. Faaar K! Faaar Cal!

Or maybe with high roster turnover every year it is tough to get freshmen players to adjust quickly, especially on road games where EVERY team plays their super bowl against UK. Oh and 38-1 last year too. So GFY!!
 

Rhavic

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Great, now the board has a psychiatrist to evaluate our coach.

Just what this board needed.

Tool.
 

jrm693

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If someone hadn't nailed a lid on the goal in the second half the op wouldn't have got to make that classic post.
 

yoshukai

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Coach Cal, as great as he has been for the program, is not above criticism. Nobody should be expected to wildly wave their blue-and-white pompoms in the air and blindly cheer while this program continues piling up losses to unranked teams with vastly inferior talent.

Just because someone has the "audacity" to criticize Cal doesn't mean he's not a UK fan, nor should others quickly dismiss valid criticism by suggesting the fan "finds another team to root for." Some fans actually watch with a critical eye and have every right to voice their displeasure.

*Despite having a plethora of future NBA players at his disposal, Calipari has lost to *21* unranked teams during the past four seasons. Among them were losses to a 15-17 Georgia team in 2013 and a 14-20 South Carolina team in 2014. And let's not forget the 30-point loss to a 20-12 Tennessee team.

*The regular season has been a struggle for three of the past four teams Cal has put on the floor. The '14 team did ultimately reach the title game, but the majority of that season was painful to endure, especially considering the overall talent on that squad.

*His 2013 team lost 12 games, his 2014 team lost 11 games, and his current team is on pace to lose 10+ games. Remember "Ten-Loss Tubby?" Is it safe to say we can now apply that moniker to Calipari?

*Last season was great, but he failed to close the deal with arguably the greatest collection of talent ever assembled. Without a freakish athlete like Anthony Davis, it appears that the Final Four is Calipari's absolute ceiling. I love Final Fours, but actually cutting down the nets is even better.

*It's hard to buy into the youth excuse when Calipari chooses to operate the program in a way that results in an entirely new roster each season. And the (few) players who stay multiple seasons seem to be afterthoughts who do not receive adequate playing time and/or are simply not developed properly. That's too bad because these are the players who should and could help offset the yearly roster overhaul. I think Cal has embraced that his legacy will be linked with how many kids he puts in the NBA, and thus players like John Hood, Derek Willis, and Stacey Poole Jr. will always take a backseat to sure-fire lottery picks. I think, in some ways, this is to the detriment of the program.

Overall, I like Cal and would hate to see him go. He has put UK basketball back on the map and re-established the program as a college basketball powerhouse. That said, he makes $6.3 million and certainly is not above criticism, especially when he continues chalking up losses to unranked schools and hapless teams like Auburn and Tennessee.
Well here's what I think . Everything you've mentioned can be attributed to having young teams . So far his young teams have come together and pretty much kicked *** at the end of the year . As long as that result keeps happening I'll be fine with Cal .
 
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