Explanation for the beatdown

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Following UK's crushing loss to OSU in NYC news came out that both Chandler and Carr got engaged on the trip.

This explains a lot about our performance and lackadaisical play. Given the holiday break, semester ending finals, and the marriage purposals our guys simply weren't focused on the task at hand.

Hopefully, this game is an anomaly overall and the aforementioned reasons were a major reason for laying an egg
 

wildcat111

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Following UK's crushing loss to OSU in NYC news came out that both Chandler and Carr got engaged on the trip.

This explains a lot about our performance and lackadaisical play. Given the holiday break, semester ending finals, and the marriage purposals our guys simply weren't focused on the task at hand.

Hopefully, this game is an anomaly overall and the aforementioned reasons were a major reason for laying an egg
Grasping at straws!!
 

4Frusciante#

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They just started thinking they were as good as we were thinking they were. They thought they had an easy game just like almost everybody on this board. It's something that seems to happen to all teams eventually at least once.

Somebody started a thread right after the game titled "We just didn't come to play" or something like that but I think that poster hit the nail on the head. I don't think the game means anything for the future except that we can lose any of our SEC games IF everybody doesn't have the proper mindset and doesn't play with intensity.
 

Yardeth

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I’m just happy that we have a good coach and a good basketball team that was thrown together on the fly along with the coaches. We are going to have clunkers on the road, we just need to win at home and pick up a few on the road and we should be fine.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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Following UK's crushing loss to OSU in NYC news came out that both Chandler and Carr got engaged on the trip.

This explains a lot about our performance and lackadaisical play. Given the holiday break, semester ending finals, and the marriage purposals our guys simply weren't focused on the task at hand.

Hopefully, this game is an anomaly overall and the aforementioned reasons were a major reason for laying an egg
Everyone in this thread was quick to dismiss your explanation, but I think there is a ring of truth to it. During Pope’s call-in show last night, he alluded to distractions as being one of the factors related to performance, along with the break. It doesn’t mean there aren’t other glaring issues that also played a factor, as multiple things can simultaneously be truthful. Good post!
 

docholiday51

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The style/type of basketball this team plays lends itself to games like this. When shots are going in we can play with anyone, when shots don't go in anyone can beat us or keep it close. If fans were paying attention when this team was assembled we should have figured that out. In the time and situation Pope had to work with he did a masterful job on the roster. He found players who play like he coaches. I like this team and took in hard when they lost the way they did. Unfortunately I am more invested in this team than I have been in the last few years(last season was a fun team but they just folded in post season play.

The SEC will be a torture chamber for just about everybody. Five losses in conference will probably be good enough to win it.
 

Wunky

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The style/type of basketball this team plays lends itself to games like this. When shots are going in we can play with anyone, when shots don't go in anyone can beat us or keep it close. If fans were paying attention when this team was assembled we should have figured that out. In the time and situation Pope had to work with he did a masterful job on the roster. He found players who play like he coaches. I like this team and took in hard when they lost the way they did. Unfortunately I am more invested in this team than I have been in the last few years(last season was a fun team but they just folded in post season play.

The SEC will be a torture chamber for just about everybody. Five losses in conference will probably be good enough to win it.

I agree with you, but still maintain that shots fall more frequently when they are the product of crisp ball and player movement. Skip passes, touch passes, and just extra passes in general were something we saw a lot of early. As these have decreased, so has our shooting %. Remember: an open shot is not necessarily a quality shot. It depends who is taking it, and at what point in the shot clock. Just ask Gonzaga, who had many wide open shots in the second half against us, but they did NOT come from within the flow of the offense — which is why they missed almost all of them.
 

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The truth is more that we had not been playing all the great during the last couple games before. We had tight games with both UL and Colgate. Neither are great teams (rival or not) that we should have comfortably defeated on our home court. Gonzaga was a big win but time has shown them not to be world beaters and we lost to Clemson which is possibly in the upper part of the ACC but not elite either. I am not being critical I will take ever win. But, we had played much better than the last few games.

It appears that teams have scouted us to see our defensive weakness which includes defense on line drives and rebounding. Our offense also other than Carr is not good on the interior. This has to be a 3-point shooting team to open up the middle and if not hitting them we are problematic. On the other hand if we are hitting from the outside we are a totally different offense. So, I think we will be fine.
 

FirewithFire

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This explanation is as good as any. Maybe they had a big party before the game to celebrate. Whatever the case, they were for sure mentally checked out for that game. I think things will look very different come Saturday.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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If I’m Pope I’m asking every shooter to focus on taking floaters off the drive until teams stop overplaying our shooters on ball screens. Brea and Robinson are both capable but it needs to be a point of emphasis. Drive it to 10 feet and in, floater. If there is help, immediate kick outs. Also, post guys need to be accountable for not looking to kick it out and so does Oweh. Oweh has been driving with blinders on for awhile now and I know he is capable of better playmaking. That’s what I’m hoping for.

Thankfully, I’m not Pope and I’m certain his adjustments will be even better and more attuned to the strengths of his personnel.
 

Kybluedude

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Be honest. Did any of you think we would lose this game after reviewing past performances of both teams?

I took the win for granted. Thought we would cruise. Can’t imagine the team thought differently after watching film. OSU wasn’t impressive. We beat Duke and Gonzaga.

Hope they learned a lesson. We’ve all played on teams where we took a win for granted and had low energy. Played poorly. Most times it doesn’t matter but Thornton made it different.

Also, thought we looked tired. Too many distractions by going up early. Distracted and not focused.
 

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Following UK's crushing loss to OSU in NYC news came out that both Chandler and Carr got engaged on the trip.

This explains a lot about our performance and lackadaisical play. Given the holiday break, semester ending finals, and the marriage purposals our guys simply weren't focused on the task at hand.

Hopefully, this game is an anomaly overall and the aforementioned reasons were a major reason for laying an egg
No man…just no! No excuses, we just got beat. On to the next!
 
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It did seem like this was a field trip rather than an important game in the eventual NCAA seedings. Plays, sight seeing, engagement. If it was that important and playing the late game, perhaps flying up the night before at the earliest was a better strategy. Wondering if that is in fact what OSU did?
 
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UKWildcats1987

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It did seem like this was a field trip rather than an important game in the eventual NCAA seedings. Plays, sight seeing, engagement. If it was that important and playing the late game, perhaps flying up the night before at the earliest was a better strategy. Wondering if that is in fact what OSU did?

Most teams do this sort of thing.

It's not why we lost.
 

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Nah, it should have had the opposite effect! Everyone should have played their asses off and tried to blow OSU out, like Auburn did, so those two engagements would have that memory associated with them!

Now it’s going be… “Remember when we got engaged and OSU gave us a beat down?” 😂
 

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So, you feel that during the game all of the players were thinking about the engagements? That sounds silly just typing it
The reason it sounds silly is only an ignoramous. would deduce that from my comment.
 
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I’m just happy that we have a good coach and a good basketball team that was thrown together on the fly along with the coaches. We are going to have clunkers on the road, we just need to win at home and pick up a few on the road and we should be fine.
The third year, you are entitled to whine and ***** some, but just enjoy the ride . We are a hell of alot further along than what I would have ever thought . We are in good hands and we will have 4 elite athletes joining the team next year . All reports show Caleb wilson coming on board . It's good to be a cat fan merry christmas
 

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No, no, no, no.

We couldn't shoot and didn't defend and let OSU control the pace all night long.

Carr didn't have a bad game.
Chandler wasn't in long enough to have ant effect.

As much as it hurts to say Ohio State was the better team top to bottom that night.

Season goes on.
 
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Tayshaun4Three

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No, no, no, no.

We couldn't shoot and didn't defend and let OSU control the pace all night long.

Carr didn't have a bad game.
Chandler wasn't in long enough to have ant effect.

As much as it hurts to say Ohio State was the better team top to bottom that night.

Season goes on.
Carr was 3 for 9 from the field and had four rebounds. He wasn’t worst on the team but I bet he’d feel like he had a bad game.
 
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Everyone in this thread was quick to dismiss your explanation, but I think there is a ring of truth to it. During Pope’s call-in show last night, he alluded to distractions as being one of the factors related to performance, along with the break. It doesn’t mean there aren’t other glaring issues that also played a factor, as multiple things can simultaneously be truthful. Good post!
Add in the fact that they were essentially in tourist mode walking around NYC for days and going to Broadway plays etc.

Played like a team with dead legs and not focused on basketball
 

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This board has been a stream of excuses for how we have looked this year and it's funny to me that during the game people admitted freely that we just don't have the talent. We don't have ball-handlers. We don't have guys who can create their own shot, but as time progresses you start to tell yourself lies like this one, which is just absurd on its face, which is why you're mostly getting roasted.
 

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This board has been a stream of excuses for how we have looked this year and it's funny to me that during the game people admitted freely that we just don't have the talent. We don't have ball-handlers. We don't have guys who can create their own shot, but as time progresses you start to tell yourself lies like this one, which is just absurd on its face, which is why you're mostly getting roasted.
Or…get this, sometimes multiple things are true.
 

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Or…get this, sometimes multiple things are true.
You are self-deluding. You probably don't even realize you are doing it. But I recognize it. I see it constantly. You believe the absurd to avoid admitting the truth, because the absurd is more comfortable.
 

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Following UK's crushing loss to OSU in NYC news came out that both Chandler and Carr got engaged on the trip.

This explains a lot about our performance and lackadaisical play. Given the holiday break, semester ending finals, and the marriage purposals our guys simply weren't focused on the task at hand.

Hopefully, this game is an anomaly overall and the aforementioned reasons were a major reason for laying an egg
Not buying this
 

Tayshaun4Three

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You are self-deluding. You probably don't even realize you are doing it. But I recognize it. I see it constantly. You believe the absurd to avoid admitting the truth, because the absurd is more comfortable.
What are you talking about? I agree the team doesn’t have enough talent. Lol. That doesn’t mean other things also can’t be true I.e. we didn’t play up to potential versus OSU. I believe distractions, just as Pope alluded to in his call in show, may have played a factor. I do not fault the players for that though. Marriage is a big deal and congrats to the players.
 
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This board has been a stream of excuses for how we have looked this year and it's funny to me that during the game people admitted freely that we just don't have the talent. We don't have ball-handlers. We don't have guys who can create their own shot, but as time progresses you start to tell yourself lies like this one, which is just absurd on its face, which is why you're mostly getting roasted.

I don't know. I think it's fine to admit that this team might not be nearly as talented as previous teams we've had. I mean we've basically put this team together last second through the transfer portal. Not that I don't think this can be a good team, but there's a reason these guys have been in college for several years and not.......in the NBA.

It's not that we lack talent tho. It's just when you compare them to the upper echelon of college basketball right now, I'm not sure how anyone could conclude we are close.
 

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Ohio State was more desperate and had a better vibe around them with Meechie Johnson stepping away and clearing roles for Mobley Jr and Thornton. Also had Bradshaw return to the lineup and remember the weekend prior they were absolutely deep throated by Auburn in Atlanta. So that one stung.

UK end of things-just had a crappy game. They happen. Nothing went well, and thought Buckeyes controlled the pace/terms of the game and everything that needed to go right didn't. It's also the lone negative of being a team who is not starting out great in some big games-you think you'll always come back. Proving you can do it is important but you don't need to be in that position all the time.
 

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In-season distractions do affect teams play on the court. Live long enough to watch Kentucky basketball for 50 years, and you'll see these kinds of distractions come up every now and then, and .... maybe even more than now and then.

I appreciate the heads up that this was even an issue, and that CMP actually spoke about distractions. All in all, I'm not sure how much off court things truly do to teams when they play a bad game, but I just would rather focus on a response and proper recovery after playing a bad game, no matter the reasons.

It's how you recover from loss and move forward that makes for the measure of success you can achieve.

I'm keeping the faith, and I know these guys care. That's the important thing to me, right there.

Go Big Blue !
 
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Zuma75

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Ohio St. had more to play for. They wanted it more. Played like their backs were against the wall.

Did you hear the halftime interview with their PG? They were laser focused on the game.

UNC was the same way.

Sometimes the more desperate team wins.
I think this is a lot of it. They had just been humilated twice. And it's Kentucky in MSG. Then throw in the fact that our guys, for some reason, didn't bring their best effort and focus. It's unlikely that OSU is really as bad as those extreme results against UM and UA showed - we'll see over the course of the season. And the team we played wasn't exactly the team that UM and UA played due to Bradshaw being back - not that I think he would have made a huge difference against them, but maybe some. Just a lot of things converging.

This is not the kind of team that can mail it in and still win against decent D1 teams.