FC/OT: ND Finally Learning a Hard Lesson.
- Thread starter Midnighter
- Start date
The conferences (commissioners?) agreed to it, but it seems that at least some of the ADs in those conferences were unaware of it.
This result would be pleasing to me. That said, group boycotts are notoriously difficult to administer.
...BTW, taking orders for next year's "Whiny Little Bitches v Convicts" shirts for next year's Miami game.
...BTW, taking orders for next year's "Whiny Little Bitches v Convicts" shirts for next year's Miami game.
Why would they do that. That would freeze one of their teams out.
I was happy when Michigan quit scheduling them. Wish some of the other Big 10 simps would do the same
The PSU vs ND series was great back in the day. Both schools benefited from big TV money and an opportunity to boost their rankings early in the year considering their weaker schedules.. Those days are gone. Teams like PSU can make the playoffs by going 10-2. They don't want to risk a 3rd loss OOC.
I think OSU is an exception playing Texas & Alabama
I know it wont happen, but I hope the only conference that will take them would be the MAC or similar level.
Hopefully they join the SEC, they could more dysfunction.
Hopefully they join the SEC, they could more dysfunction.
So then nd plays teams that need to fill the stadium. Thus they are almost guaranteed a 10+ wins season.
How many of those schools does ND actually travel to. Plus there are quite a few other teams that would draw big crowds too.
Perfect justice would be they get kicked out of or leave the ACC stay independent and then no power 4 team would schedule them.
But sadly the whores of college football wouldn't resist playing the Mighty Reprobate Domers.
Actually, with the current playoff format, teams no longer need to play Notre Dame, or any other out of conference challenge, in order to get into contention.
BIG should take the lead here by kicking them out of the BIG for hockey and then announcing that no football programs will be playing them after the upcoming season.
Also, if I were UConn, I'd demand the same treatment as ND with regards to the playoff, and sue if i don't receive it. I'd then schedule the Purdue's and other bottom of conference teams and raise hell when I have a good season and don't get in, just to make a mockery of the situation.
Also, if I were UConn, I'd demand the same treatment as ND with regards to the playoff, and sue if i don't receive it. I'd then schedule the Purdue's and other bottom of conference teams and raise hell when I have a good season and don't get in, just to make a mockery of the situation.
I have been screaming for years about nd getting SPECIAL treatment. Finally, some people are waking up to this!!!!
"Special Treatment"?
If what happened to Notre Dame had happened to PSU (or ANY other team), PSU fans (or the fans of any other team) would be apoplectic - and wail about it non-stop.
Week after week, the "committee" says Notre Dame is better (more highly ranked) than Miami. Week after week - including AFTER both teams - Miami and Notre Dame - had completed their seasons.
Should they have been ranked above Miami? Who knows? But it is what it is.
And then - as if by magic - AFTER both teams had already completed their seasons, the "committee" says "Nope, Miami is better"
Why? Because Duke beat Virginia and the ACC was going to be left out in the cold.
That is, obviously, bull$&%^.
How is that for "special treatment"?
As far as "skipping the (meaningless) bowl game"?
Come on: Notre Dame is one of about a dozen teams this year to say "no thanks". It is not like they are an outlier. Why folks think they have some right to demand Notre Dame play in a bowl game? "Wut?"
If what happened to Notre Dame had happened to PSU (or ANY other team), PSU fans (or the fans of any other team) would be apoplectic - and wail about it non-stop.
Week after week, the "committee" says Notre Dame is better (more highly ranked) than Miami. Week after week - including AFTER both teams - Miami and Notre Dame - had completed their seasons.
Should they have been ranked above Miami? Who knows? But it is what it is.
And then - as if by magic - AFTER both teams had already completed their seasons, the "committee" says "Nope, Miami is better"
Why? Because Duke beat Virginia and the ACC was going to be left out in the cold.
That is, obviously, bull$&%^.
How is that for "special treatment"?
As far as "skipping the (meaningless) bowl game"?
Come on: Notre Dame is one of about a dozen teams this year to say "no thanks". It is not like they are an outlier. Why folks think they have some right to demand Notre Dame play in a bowl game? "Wut?"
rankings are opinions , miami beating nd on the field IS REAL !!!
Didn’t it happen to PSU, although not exactly in the same way, in 2016? We beat OSU AND won the Big Ten Championship only to be left out of the BCS because OSU was considered "better."
Notre Dame has tremendous advantages they use wisely. Their schedule is built with two primary purposes in mind, namely recruiting and results. While every school would like this (and sometimes conferences help out their best teams with the schedule), the Irish are the only team that has their own control over both schedule and recruiting and they exploit it to the fullest.
If they want a game in Texas (for recruiting) but need a weaker opponent, let's schedule Rice. Let's keep a game in the East (Boston College, Army, or Navy); the South (ACC cupcakes); the West (Standford, USC); the Midwest (Michigan State, Purdue. Oh, and let's build the bye in for when we need it. They can tell every recruit "you will play in the region you grew up in".
The teams that schedule them play right into this madness. STOP scheduling them and this can change. Michigan State does not live and die by the extra $ they bring in from scheduling Notre Dame, neither does USC.
And being guaranteed to be in the playoff thru a final ranking is incredible. Please take a look at their schedule for 2026 and tell me how that does not happen...they are a lock for the top 12.
If they want a game in Texas (for recruiting) but need a weaker opponent, let's schedule Rice. Let's keep a game in the East (Boston College, Army, or Navy); the South (ACC cupcakes); the West (Standford, USC); the Midwest (Michigan State, Purdue. Oh, and let's build the bye in for when we need it. They can tell every recruit "you will play in the region you grew up in".
The teams that schedule them play right into this madness. STOP scheduling them and this can change. Michigan State does not live and die by the extra $ they bring in from scheduling Notre Dame, neither does USC.
And being guaranteed to be in the playoff thru a final ranking is incredible. Please take a look at their schedule for 2026 and tell me how that does not happen...they are a lock for the top 12.
Well with the exception of about two games a year they already play a MAC like schedule.
Similarities, but also very different.
And PSU fans are - obviously - still hot about it.
FWIW:
It was Washington, not OSU, that kept PSU out of the Final 4. (The rankings were Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Washington - in that order)
Washington was ranked ahead of PSU every step of the way, from the first committee rankings to the last.
Now, to make it more similar to the current situation vav Notre Dame:
Imagine PSU was ranked AHEAD of Washington every step of the way...... and then, after the season concluded, the "committee" said: "Nah, we was just foolin' Washington is actually the better team. PSU is out"
I am sure you would agree PSU fans would be (justifiably) apoplectic.
As fun as it may be to revel in Notre Dame's misery, anyone who would fail to recognize that would have to be adamantly ignorant.
Even when other “schools” are mired in sh|t, we can’t feel good about PSU. Jesus.
Our early season loss to Pitt, in a game we should have won, cost us our BCS bid.
While the Big 10 commissioner lobbied for Ohio $tate behind the scenes. Gotta love that support for your Conference Champion!
Last edited:
I agree. But the process suffers now from what it suffered back then - too much subjectivity.
And using ND's logic, since it was an early season loss, it shouldn't have been counted.
There was no reason for the committee to have ND ranked ahead of Miami prior to the last week. ND lost to both Miami and Texas A & M. What is their “signature” win #16 USC? Otherwise, they played a couple middle level teams and cupcakes the rest of the year. Nothing I love more than listening to the spoiled ND fans whine.
Kicking them out of the hockey league is doable. Announcing as a conference that its members will no longer play ND in football invites a lawsuit that the conference would lose.
UConn could demand and might even get the same treatment as ND. It would then become the laughingstock of college football for the foreseeable future.
Whu would they lose a lawsuit? Simply schedule other teams and say there is no more room for them.
Individual schools can decide not to schedule them. Banding together as a group to do so constitutes restraint of trade under US law.
CFB really needs to go to a performance-based playoff system. Go to 14 teams, with 4 AQ's each from the BIG and SEC, 2 each from the ACC and Big 12, 1 from the Group of five, and 1 at-large. In that scenario, ND's only path to the playoff is by getting the one at-large bid. Otherwise, subjectivity is taken out of the playoff selection process.
Championship weekend then becomes a defacto first round of the playoffs, with a ton of meaningful games. The BIG champ and the SEC champ winners get automatic first-round playoff byes, while the BIG and SEC championship losers still make the playoff. Meanwhile, BIG and SEC teams 3 and 6 and teams 4 and 5 play to determine who fills the other two slots. Teams 1 and 4 and teams 2 and 3 in the ACC and Big 12 also play to determine their two playoff participants.
The current committee selection process is hopelessly flawed.