FC/OT: SEC & B1G pushing for 14-16 team playoff with auto qualifiers…

[Midnighter]

Up to four AQs per conference, two for ACC and Big XII, one group of five, one at large (ND).

Honestly - this will suck.

Sources: SEC, Big Ten building momentum to further expand College Football Playoff to 14 or 16 teams

The conferences are pushing to assign multiple automatic qualifiers per league, with as many as four each for themselves. In short, a plethora of changes are on the table.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[BobPSU92]

F*ck nd. Jesus.

 

[OhioLion]

F*ck nd. Jesus.

Not the word I will use, but, I agree, enough of catering to ND.
Or, the SEC/B1G oversee the scheduling of their games. No more 2-3 service academies and Boston College every year.

 

[psuro]

Up to four AQs per conference, two for ACC and Big XII, one group of five, one at large (ND).

Honestly - this will suck.

Sources: SEC, Big Ten building momentum to further expand College Football Playoff to 14 or 16 teams

The conferences are pushing to assign multiple automatic qualifiers per league, with as many as four each for themselves. In short, a plethora of changes are on the table.

sports.yahoo.com

Based on the Top 4 in the Conference, PSU would have made it every year since CJF has been here, except his first (2014). Even in 2020 with a losing conference/overall record,

 

[BobPSU92]

Not the word I will use, but, I agree, enough of catering to ND.
Or, the SEC/B1G oversee the scheduling of their games. No more 2-3 service academies and Boston College every year.

Subtlety has never been my strong suit.

I also worry that years of living in ohio have made you tolerant of the Midwest.

 

[Midnighter]

Based on the Top 4 in the Conference, PSU would have made it every year since CJF has been here, except his first (2014). Even in 2020 with a losing conference/overall record,

So, you like that? Just have the B1G and SEC send their champs to the title game every year.

 

[psuro]

Not the word I will use, but, I agree, enough of catering to ND.
Or, the SEC/B1G oversee the scheduling of their games. No more 2-3 service academies and Boston College every year.

Now you are going to upset the traditionallists. The ones that say that the only reason ND is a functioning University today is because Navy sent some midshipmen to South Bend, and that was able to keep the doors open. The ones that say that ND-Army have a long standing rivalry and the invoke Knute Rockne, Frank Leahy, et al. The ones that say that BC is the second largest Catholic University in the US, and they need to play each other (plus, the ACC).

I can hear Lou Holtz lisping away like a monkey on crack.

 

[psuro]

So, you like that? Just have the B1G and SEC send their champs to the title game every year.

No. All I did was make an observation. Look at the Top 4 Big Ten teams since CJF has been here, and PSU has been in the top 4 every year but the first.

 

[OhioLion]

Now you are going to upset the traditionallists. The ones that say that the only reason ND is a functioning University today is because Navy sent some midshipmen to South Bend, and that was able to keep the doors open. The ones that say that ND-Army have a long standing rivalry and the invoke Knute Rockne, Frank Leahy, et al. The ones that say that BC is the second largest Catholic University in the US, and they need to play each other (plus, the ACC).

I can hear Lou Holtz lisping away like a monkey on crack.

Leprechauns need to look around and see that (to this 63-YO) traditional football is already gone.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way!

 

[Midnighter]

No. All I did was make an observation. Look at the Top 4 Big Ten teams since CJF has been here, and PSU has been in the top 4 every year but the first.

I get the observation - but seems like an de facto endorsement of the idea to benefit PSU.

 

[psuro]

I get the observation - but seems like an de facto endorsement of the idea to benefit PSU.

Just an observation.

Edit - I double checked - they would not have made it in 2015, 2020 or 2021 in addition to 2014.

 

[Woodpecker]

So, you like that? Just have the B1G and SEC send their champs to the title game every year.

So Oregon and Georgia this past year?

 

[PSUFTG]

Based on the Top 4 in the Conference, PSU would have made it every year since CJF has been here, except his first (2014). Even in 2020 with a losing conference/overall record,

Not quite.
Actually - with 4 automatic from B10, would have included PSU 6 times in 11 years (same with Michigan)
OSU would have been 11 for 11


2014 - No (Oregon, OSU, Michigan State, UCLA)
2015 - No (Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, OSU)
2016 - Yes (w OSU, Michigan, Washington)
2017 - Yes (w OSU, Wisconsin, USC)
2018 - Yes (w OSU, Michigan, Washington)
2019 - Yes (w OSU, Oregon, Wisconsin)
2020 - No (OSU, Indiana, USC, Northwestern... Iowa in if excluding USC)
2021 - No (Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Oregon... Iowa in if excluding Oregon)
2022 - Yes (w Michigan, OSU, USC)
2023 - No (Michigan, Washington, OSU, Oregon... PSU in if excluding Oregon)
2024 - Yes (w OSU, Oregon, Indiana)

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[psuro]

Not quite.
Actually - with 4 automatic from B10, would have included PSU 6 times in 11 years (same with Michigan)
OSU would have been 11 for 11


2014 - No (Oregon, OSU, Michigan State, UCLA)
2015 - No (Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, OSU)
2016 - Yes (w OSU, Michigan, Washington)
2017 - Yes (w OSU, Wisconsin, USC)
2018 - Yes (w OSU, Michigan, Washington)
2019 - Yes (w OSU, Oregon, Wisconsin)
2020 - No (OSU, Indiana, USC, Northwestern... Iowa in if excluding USC)
2021 - No (Michigan, OSU, Michigan State, Oregon... Iowa in if excluding Oregon)
2022 - Yes (w Michigan, OSU, USC)
2023 - No (Michigan, Washington, OSU, Oregon... PSU in if excluding Oregon)
2024 - Yes (w OSU, Oregon, Indiana)

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Oregon was not in the Big Ten until this past season.

So....not really including them.

And I corrected my statement in a following post.

 

[Midnighter]

So Oregon and Georgia this past year?

Exactly.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

This is moving in a direction where some teams will sit their starters in the last game of the regular season like NFL teams sometimes do in week 18.....UGH

 

[Midnighter]

This is moving in a direction where some teams will sit their starters in the last game of the regular season like NFL teams sometimes do in week 18.....UGH

Why bother scheduling tough NC opponents? 4th place!?! Jesus.

Dellinger said lots of support (obviously) from ADs - even ACC/Big XII - at least they get a seat. But, really starts to undermine/eliminate any need for the CFP Committee.

 

[LB99]

Oregon was not in the Big Ten until this past season.

So....not really including them.

And I corrected my statement in a following post.

Neither was USC, UCLA or Washington, but he never misses a chance to try to undermine Franklin or the program.

 

[psuro]

This is moving in a direction where some teams will sit their starters in the last game of the regular season like NFL teams sometimes do in week 18.....UGH

So the coaches are opting players out rather than players doing it themselves for "meaningless" bowl games?

 

[NewEra 2014]

Why bother scheduling tough NC opponents? 4th place!?! Jesus.

Dellinger said lots of support (obviously) from ADs - even ACC/Big XII - at least they get a seat. But, really starts to undermine/eliminate any need for the CFP Committee.

A friend and I went to the Nebraska-Colorado game this fall. We golfed on Saturday morning, as the game was a night game. We were paired up with two guys who happened to be on the Orange Bowl committee and were attending the game. We had some laughs with them about even having an Orange Bowl committee, since the teams participating in the Orange Bowl aren't based on any selection criteria anymore. They agreed that it was absurd, but they were still able to travel around the country all fall to attend college football games on the Orange Bowl committee dime.

When the game started, there they were on the Nebraska sideline wearing their Orange Bowl blazers. Good work if you can get it! So I guess that they may still have a CFP Committee of some sort even if a lot of teams will be automatic selections for the playoff.

 

[PSUSignore]

This is moving in a direction where some teams will sit their starters in the last game of the regular season like NFL teams sometimes do in week 18.....UGH

Yep. Which will be awesome for fans paying huge money for tickets and only getting 6-7 home games a year. What if starters sit 2 of those? Then if they also don't make scheduling requirements you have another 2 crap home game non conference blowouts every year. So fans will be shelling out thousands to potentially see 2-3 games with the best players against decent competition. But they no longer care about in person fans, all they care about is the TV money. This could be yet another spit into the face for those attending games in person.

 

[LB99]

Yep. Which will be awesome for fans paying huge money for tickets and only getting 6-7 home games a year. What if starters sit 2 of those? Then if they also don't make scheduling requirements you have another 2 crap home game non conference blowouts every year. So fans will be shelling out thousands to potentially see 2-3 games with the best players against decent competition. But they no longer care about in person fans, all they care about is the TV money. This could be yet another spit into the face for those attending games in person.

Oh good grief. You’re complaining about “what ifs”.

 

[LB99]

Some of you take such great joy complaining about nonsense. If you didn’t have anything to complain about, I don’t know what you’d do with yourselves.

 

[psuno1]

Up to four AQs per conference, two for ACC and Big XII, one group of five, one at large (ND).

Honestly - this will suck.

Sources: SEC, Big Ten building momentum to further expand College Football Playoff to 14 or 16 teams

The conferences are pushing to assign multiple automatic qualifiers per league, with as many as four each for themselves. In short, a plethora of changes are on the table.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[psuno1]

Make it 8 teams-all conferences play 9 conference games keep conference championship game- one at large one from power 5. 16 is way to many teams going to be a bunch of 3 loss teams.

 

[BobPSU92]

Just shut it down.

 

[LB99]

Make it 8 teams-all conferences play 9 conference games keep conference championship game- one at large one from power 5. 16 is way to many teams going to be bunch of 3 loss teams.

It’s going to 16. Probably by 2026 or shortly after.

 

[Nittering Nabob]

Up to four AQs per conference, two for ACC and Big XII, one group of five, one at large (ND).

Honestly - this will suck.

Sources: SEC, Big Ten building momentum to further expand College Football Playoff to 14 or 16 teams

The conferences are pushing to assign multiple automatic qualifiers per league, with as many as four each for themselves. In short, a plethora of changes are on the table.

sports.yahoo.com

Other than the $$$ grab, I don't get playoff expansion. We all saw what happened this year with dilution from undeserving teams.

Why exacerbate an already broken playoff model?

 

[psuno1]

It’s going to 16. Probably by 2026 or shortly after.

I know, just to much money to be made.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

College football's credibility at stake as Big Ten, SEC aim to tighten stranglehold on playoff access

The two power leagues are seeking four automatic bids apiece as talks are scheduled to resume on Wednesday

www.cbssports.com

 

[Tom McAndrew]

College Football Playoff meetings not about expansion. It's about college sports survival

College football’s top administrators are meeting this week to talk expansion. It should be no surprise that revenue generation is biggest topic.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MtNittany]

I think the 2 conferences have become too big to accurately put forth the 4 best teams.

Maybe split them into divisions. Oh wait...

 

[LB99]

I think the 2 conferences have become too big to accurately put forth the 4 best teams.

Maybe split them into divisions. Oh wait...

Bingo.

 

[Marshall2323]

Don't know why it's so difficult to realize this is professional football. I don't recall many complaints about the W-L records of teams in the NFL playoffs. You win your division or qualify as a wildcard.
Ohio State took the natty with 2 losses. If this playoff format continues, eventually someone will win it with 3. It has become a tournament. The team that "peaks" at the right moment will make a strong statement. The dominant regular season team may stumble for a variety of reasons.....matchup or untimely injuries etc. How often does the team with the best record during the regular season win the World Series? 8 wild card teams have won the World Series and 6 wild card teams have won the Super Bowl.
How many WS would the Yankees have won under the current MBL playoff format? Certainly not 27.
The SEC and Big Ten are driving the bus and the destination is $$$$. Isn't that the name of every endeavor?

 

[BobPSU92]

College football's credibility at stake as Big Ten, SEC aim to tighten stranglehold on playoff access

The two power leagues are seeking four automatic bids apiece as talks are scheduled to resume on Wednesday

www.cbssports.com

“College” Football’s credibility

 

[BobPSU92]

I think the 2 conferences have become too big to accurately put forth the 4 best teams.

Maybe split them into divisions. Oh wait...

Bring back Leaders and Legends.

 

[Marshall2323]

Bring back Leaders and Legends.

And the Paterno Trophy

 

[LB99]

Don't know why it's so difficult to realize this is professional football. I don't recall many complaints about the W-L records of teams in the NFL playoffs. You win your division or qualify as a wildcard.
Ohio State took the natty with 2 losses. If this playoff format continues, eventually someone will win it with 3. It has become a tournament. The team that "peaks" at the right moment will make a strong statement. The dominant regular season team may stumble for a variety of reasons.....matchup or untimely injuries etc. How often does the team with the best record during the regular season win the World Series? 8 wild card teams have won the World Series and 6 wild card teams have won the Super Bowl.
How many WS would the Yankees have won under the current MBL playoff format? Certainly not 27.
The SEC and Big Ten are driving the bus and the destination is $$$$. Isn't that the name of every endeavor?

Exactly. If PSU would have gotten in as a 2 loss team in 2016 and won the whole thing, nobody would have batted an eye at it. They were one of the hottest teams at the end of the season. If they got in and stayed hot, anything was possible. USC was in the same situation. It makes for good football. Why complain about it?

 

[Midnighter]

More practically speaking this puts another game or two up against the NFL - which is a losing effort. Would like to see a few other fixes before expanding - namely:

- Re-seeding after round 1.
- Get rid of conference championship game, move everything up a week.
- Byes go to four top ranked teams - that is it.

Think we implement some of these changes we get a much better overall product, noting for Penn State fans, it was a pretty good time.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

Talk of eliminating Con. Champ Game. Automatic bid for 1st and 2nd place for playoffs.
3rd would play 6th, 4th would play 5th., this would eliminate teams dogging it at end of
season.
By setting up a proposed 4 - Big 10, 4 - SEC playoff seeding, Penn State could play a team like LSU or Oklahoma,
instead of a MAC team without losing conference seeding.
The remaining playoff teams would be 2 Big 12, 2 ACC, 1 Gp. of 5, and you guessed it most likely ND.
Just my opinion ND should join a conference, or share their money with everyone on their schedule.