FC: Penn State Athletics Reports Nearly $24 Million Deficit Following COVID-Impacted 2020-21 Fiscal Year

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Bake sale on the horizon.


You know what this means….20 YEAR EXTENSION!!!

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Thank you kind sir. I just had to take a break. I used to take time off on the old McAndrew Board too. I saw that article and it was the sign to come back to the board. I'm hoping to "inspire" responses from Barry and Art.
I actually remember that you used to take time off and hoped that was the case. I'm sure those two will be here to comment in 3, 2, 1...
 

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I wonder what Brandon Short has to say about this report? He probably thinks we still aren't borrowing enough money. What a tool.
 

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Welcome back. I was worried that you did a Felli on us.
I think everyone - at least everyone on this board - knew that 2020-2021 fiscal year would be a big fiscal loser for Penn State Athletics (and just about every other large $ football program university).

The interesting stuff in the report, as is often the case, are the things not being reported on or discussed very much.
The "other" categories, the lawsuit, the media revenue deltas, and the inertia of the largest expense categories
 

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I think everyone - at least everyone on this board - knew that 2020-2021 fiscal year would be a big fiscal loser for Penn State Athletics (and just about every other large $ football program university).

The interesting stuff in the report, as is often the case, are the things not being reported on or discussed very much.
The "other" categories, the lawsuit, the media revenue deltas, and the inertia of the largest expense categories
Educate me. Why would “Media Revenues” be a large negative revenue delta.?

I though all B1G teams were ensured equal media revenue streams, except for perhaps recent conference entrants
 

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Educate me. Why would “Media Revenues” be a large negative revenue delta.?

I though all B1G teams were ensured equal media revenue streams, except for perhaps recent conference entrants
Assuming that "delta" is defined as year-over-year change, fewer games played means fewer games broadcast means networks pay less to the Big Ten means that the Big Ten distributes less to the schools.
 

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I think everyone - at least everyone on this board - knew that 2020-2021 fiscal year would be a big fiscal loser for Penn State Athletics (and just about every other large $ football program university).

The interesting stuff in the report, as is often the case, are the things not being reported on or discussed very much.
The "other" categories, the lawsuit, the media revenue deltas, and the inertia of the largest expense categories

Not sure how one gets negative ticket sale revenue unless there are timing differences between sales and refunds. Even then.......
 
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It's the equivalent of a Monday, help me connect the dots as to who the OP is/was???
 

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Assuming that "delta" is defined as year-over-year change, fewer games played means fewer games broadcast means networks pay less to the Big Ten means that the Big Ten distributes less to the schools.
Yes. That was, seemingly, a state secret when the whole Covid thing hit. To the best of my knowledge, neither Kevin Warren nor any of the ADs has ever been willing to address it:
How would TV contract payouts be adjusted?
How would individual universities by allocated? What if one team played 9 games, and another played 7 (due to Covid cancellations)? etc etc

This info, now that we have seen the EADA reports, is slowly coming into focus (still fuzzy, but more focus than before)

Some other tidbits:
- With respect to Penn State ICA, no one seems to be willing to discuss the huge Revenue stream referred to only as "Lawsuit Payout". Interesting, I think.
- Penn State, as some may recall, was the only Big Ten ICA - maybe the only one in the nation - who appropriated (rather than refund or credit) the seat license fees (STEP fees). We can now see just how large a number that was, and why they stole it.
- We see that - as opposed to many other ICAs - Penn State's payouts for Coaching Salaries and Administrative Salaries basically stayed flat (many schools instituted significant cost reductions in those areas - Penn State, as we can now see in the financial statements, didn't. I do believe there were scattered furloughs within staff, but, obviously, not any that amounted to more than rounding error of the total).

And several other interesting/important items.
 

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Yes. That was, seemingly, a state secret when the whole Covid thing hit. To the best of my knowledge, neither Kevin Warren nor any of the ADs has ever been willing to address it:
How would TV contract payouts be adjusted?
How would individual universities by allocated? What if one team played 9 games, and another played 7 (due to Covid cancellations)? etc etc

This info, now that we have seen the EADA reports, is slowly coming into focus (still fuzzy, but more focus than before)

Some other tidbits:
- With respect to Penn State ICA, no one seems to be willing to discuss the huge Revenue stream referred to only as "Lawsuit Payout". Interesting, I think.
*Can't find a reference to this in the financials, but didn't exactly kill myself looking for it.
- Penn State, as some may recall, was the only Big Ten ICA - maybe the only one in the nation - who appropriated (rather than refund or credit) the seat license fees (STEP fees). We can now see just how large a number that was, and why they stole it.
*If they recognized this as income last year, they'll have an equivalent shortfall next.
- We see that - as opposed to many other ICAs - Penn State's payouts for Coaching Salaries and Administrative Salaries basically stayed flat (many schools instituted significant cost reductions in those areas - Penn State, as we can now see in the financial statements, didn't. I do believe there were scattered furloughs within staff, but, obviously, not any that amounted to more than rounding error of the total).
* Pretty clear that none of the coaches took "voluntary" reductions in pay. Harder to get a fix on Administrative comp because of the inclusion of employee benefits in the line item.
And several other interesting/important items.
Comments by item indicated by * and boldface.
 
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*Can't find a reference to this in the financials, but didn't exactly kill myself looking for it.

*If they recognized this as income last year, they'll have an equivalent shortfall next.

* Pretty clear that none of the coaches took "voluntary" reductions in pay. Harder to get a fix on Administrative comp because of the inclusion of employee benefits in the line item.


Comments by item indicated by * and boldface.

Imagine Sandy asking Franklin to take a voluntary reduction in pay. She might be able to sell enough tickets to that meeting to make a windfall for the athletic department, without the pay reduction.
 

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PSUFTG said:
- Penn State, as some may recall, was the only Big Ten ICA - maybe the only one in the nation - who appropriated (rather than refund or credit) the seat license fees (STEP fees). We can now see just how large a number that was, and why they stole it.
*If they recognized this as income last year, they'll have an equivalent shortfall next.


Actually, they won't.


What they did last year was to take the STEP fees (many millions of $ of course) and simply told the ticket holders "Thanks, that is now a "Levi Lamb" donation to the ICA". So they just kept it, put it on the revenue ledger, and moved on.

Everyone else in the Big Ten - OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc (and probably the nation) said: "Obviously, since there are no tickets for this year's games, we will refund your seat license fees - or credit them towards next year" (usually giving the ticket holder the option)
Many also included a plea of "Since we are facing such a turbulent time - if you could see clear to donate all or part of your seat license fees, we would really appreciate it", and I am sure, at those places, some ticketholders did just that.
Here was a copy of what Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez sent out (and every other Big Ten program with seat license fees for football did the same - except Penn State, of course):
Alvarez, UW Athletics provides season ticket update (247sports.com)
"Of course, while donations will be much appreciated by the University, that's not the only option for ticket holders--they were also given the option of moving their 2020 season ticket payment and/or donation to apply to the 2021 season or requesting a full refund."

But PSU just kept the seat license fees. No refund, No credit. Nada.
Whatever those STEP fees were - $10 Million, $15 million (one could back out an approximate value, if they were so inclined) - just stayed in the PSU ICA treasury, with no reckoning or corresponding charge in future years.

There were some fans who took legal action. How many? I don't know - but likely a very small percentage (probably costs more for the individual to hire a lawyer, than to recover their $1,000 or whatever in STEP fees). What was the outcome for those who did take legal action? I don't know (though I have heard that some did force PSU to refund their money - but that was all anecdotal). I have also heard several stories - anecdotally - of ticket holders who are now FORMER ticket holders, after being defrauded.
 
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Very quick bullet point summary:

On the EXPENSE side (from largest expenses to smallest)

- Coaching Salaries stayed the same
- Administrative Salaries remained the same (Drop of about $1 Million. There were some short term furloughs of some rank and file personnel)
- Cost for Scholarship, Room and Board, Meals for student athletes remained the same, of course

Other Expenses:
- Travel dropped by about 25% / $2 million (Of course, fewer games)
- "Game Day Expenses" - which is mostly paying for all the peripheral stuff on gameday, mostly for football - parking folks, ushers, cops, etc, etc - dropped by 75% / $7 million (of course, these expenses are to accommodate attendance, of which there was none)
- Bowl Game expenses dropped from $3.5 million to (nearly $0 - Penn State, of course, didn't go to a Bowl (Somehow about $100,000 still showed up as "Bowl Expense", probably an old account payable or something)
- The $ million paid for Pay Day game opponents for football (like paying VIllanova and Ball State to come in for a football game) dropped from $4 million down to 0 (since we didn't have any of those)
- Recruiting expenses dropped from $2.5 million down to $1 million (of course, couldn't travel as much or official visits)


On the REVENUE side, starting with the largest sources of revenue:

- Total Media rights revenue dropped by about 25% / $13 million (likely due primarily to fewer football games... though this also includes NCAA BB tourney money (which actually went up a tad) and some other stuff))
- Lost $43 million in ticket revenue, that was, of course the big one, and mostly football related
- "Donations", a large chunk of which are likely STEP fees, dropped, but only from $30 million to $22 million. (Penn State's "handling" of STEP money obviously gave PSU ICA a huge advantage over everyone else - who refunded or credited)
- Royalties (which is the $ PSU gets every time someone buys something with a PSU Icon on it) stayed the same, as one would expect
- Parking and Concession revenue, which is largely football game parking, dropped from $7 million to essentially 0, of course, with no fans
- Penn State took about the same from the endowment, up $1 million from 7 million to 8 million
- Penn State didn't get a Bowl Money stipend from the Big Ten (obviously, since PSU didn't go to a bowl), Last year that was about $2.5 million
- Penn State did enter a large revenue stream from "Other", of $20 million (that is typically about $7-8 million per year - for stuff ranging from golf course fees to who knows what else). The only explanation given (as required by the EADA for such large sums) was that it was primarily the result of a lawsuit payout. So, who knows?


That's the nickel tour of the financials
 

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How did the SEC do, having fans and a longer season?
I honestly couldn't give an informed opinion - I haven't broken down their financials at all.
As I recall, there was some pretty wide divergence there from team to team/state to state with regard to allowed attendance (as opposed to the Big Ten which was "0" for everybody) - so I expect that will be reflected in SEC programs having, on whole, better financials - but with some more "better" than others.

But that's just a reasoned guess. I also think many of those teams played a fuller schedule - 10 games? 11? as opposed to the Big Ten, so one would expect a lesser hit to TV rights (but, again, just a reasoned guess)



Within the Big Ten (and I haven't looked at all of them yet - some may not even be available yet):
Penn State SHOULD be #1 in revenue.
The big revenue items for all Big Ten schools are media rights (which get divided equally - except for the two newcomers), tickets, and donations/license fees.

If TV is all about the same for all, and everyone lost their ticket revenue, the only big differentiator should be donations/license fees. Since PSU was the only one to keep license fees, that should put PSU on top. Add in that nebulous "other" category - the "lawsuit" - and Penn State should be significantly ahead, one would imagine.

On the expense side - we will see. Several schools did across the board salary reductions - and many had big "give backs" from their highly-compensated folks (head coaches, AD, etc). Penn State didn't do that - so their expense side may not have declined as much as some others.
 
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How did the SEC do, having fans and a longer season?
Auburn lost about $10mm, Bama made $10mm, and UGa reported making $20mm. All of those numbers are inflated by the SEC distributing $2mm to each school as an advance on media rights fees it expects to earn when new contracts kick after 2025.
 
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I honestly couldn't give an informed opinion - I haven't broken down their financials at all.
As I recall, there was some pretty wide divergence there from team to team/state to state with regard to allowed attendance (as opposed to the Big Ten which was "0" for everybody) - so I expect that will be reflected in SEC programs having, on whole, better financials - but with some more "better" than others.

But that's just a reasoned guess. I also think many of those teams played a fuller schedule - 10 games? 11? as opposed to the Big Ten, so one would expect a lesser hit to TV rights (but, again, just a reasoned guess)



Within the Big Ten (and I haven't looked at all of them yet - some may not even be available yet):
Penn State SHOULD be #1 in revenue.
The big revenue items for all Big Ten schools are media rights (which get divided equally - except for the two newcomers), tickets, and donations/license fees.

If TV is all about the same for all, and everyone lost their ticket revenue, the only big differentiator should be donations/license fees. Since PSU was the only one to keep license fees, that should put PSU on top. Add in that nebulous "other" category - the "lawsuit" - and Penn State should be significantly ahead, one would imagine.

On the expense side - we will see. Several schools did across the board salary reductions - and many had big "give backs" from their highly-compensated folks (head coaches, AD, etc). Penn State didn't do that - so their expense side may not have declined as much as some others.
I'm reading the comments in the NCAA report and it says "one time insurance settlement." The amount of increase in "other revenue" over the previous two years is about $12mm. Sound familiar? Wanna take a guess?
 

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Auburn lost about $10mm, Bama made $10mm, and UGa reported making $20mm. All of those numbers are inflated by the SEC distributing $2mm to each school as an advance on media rights fees it expects to earn when new contracts kick after 2025.

The sec laughs at the b1g.