Final Sagarin Ratings
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Hmm dropped 32 spots... What happened??
Guys who defend the O and like Dawson says it's the D to blame. Guys who like the D blame the O and says it's their fault. Just got graded a D+ on the season at another place so I guess we underperformed on both sides of the ball and special teams?
Just a hunch you know
Guys who defend the O and like Dawson says it's the D to blame. Guys who like the D blame the O and says it's their fault. Just got graded a D+ on the season at another place so I guess we underperformed on both sides of the ball and special teams?
Just a hunch you know
It was the offense. Offense returned darn near everyone and dropped from 29 pts/game to 24. The defense improved from 31 pts/game to 27. And I believe that the defense would've been even better had the offense been better.
While I do think that Dawson's lack of fit bears significant blame there has to be some accountability on the execution of plays. If the WRs had better position coaching and they performed better the offense would've looked much better. And, of course, the same can be said of Towles and the OL.
While I do think that Dawson's lack of fit bears significant blame there has to be some accountability on the execution of plays. If the WRs had better position coaching and they performed better the offense would've looked much better. And, of course, the same can be said of Towles and the OL.
To be fair the defense started the season with 8 seniors and the offense while returning everyone had far less experience and a new OC. It was a total failure in all 3 phases with a little glimmer of hope sprinkled in here and there.
^Exactly my point. The defense was in position to succeed. The offense??....not so much.
I follow the computer ratings with some regularity, both because I'm a nerd and they are they only place you can find/measure Kentucky. All of the rankings have us behind South Carolina and Missouri.
Without getting too far in the weeds, I think that's because of SOS (we played the easiest schedule in the SEC, and definitely easier than USC or Missouri did) and because while all three teams were pretty bad ... South Carolina and Missouri showed more of a pulse the second half of the season.
But mostly SOS.
Us by the major rating systems ... which are pretty consistent:
F+: 85th nationally and last in the SEC (down dramatically from 68th last year; up from 97th Stoops first year; exact same national rank as Joker's last year)
FEI: 85th nationally and last in the SEC (down from 76th last year; up from 95th Stoops first year; up from 111th Joker's last year)
S&P+: 95th nationally and last in the SEC (down dramatically from 58th last year, down from 84th Stoops first year; down from 75th Joker's last year)
Sagarin: 81st nationally and 13th in the SEC (down dramatically from 49th last year; up from 104th Stoops first year; up from 93rd Joker's last year)
Upshot: We got a lot worse this season. Not exactly breaking news.
Tale of 2 seasons. Through the Auburn game we were appreciably better than #81. What does that mean? 60? 40? 32? Not sure. And then the back half we were notably worse than that - 110?
Weird year......
Weird year......
Computer rankings are pure BS. USC and Mizzou were both worse than us. USCjr wasn't even close. Look at the schedules and records.
They're not pure BS, but you have to take them for what they are. FWIW, no matter how whose logarithms you employ ... the margins are pretty small between us, South Carolina, Missouri and Vanderbilt. You're talking about four bad teams, almost across the board (Missouri and Vanderbilt had good defenses).
Four of the worst teams in the Power 5, no matter how you slice it.
Agree those teams, including us, were not good, but they are the four worst teams in the best conference in America.
Disagree with their being the worst in America.
Data is okay, but it can't take into account the emotions of the players. Ky's season was a season of two parts. Through the Auburn game, they made a ton of mistakes, but they were fighting. After the Auburn loss, they tanked emotionally. IMO, if you could flip the halves of the season, the results would have been different.
Oh, absolutely agree the SEC is the best conference. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But it's pretty extremely a tale of two divisions this year. When you break up the conferences into divisions (which the Bill Connelly at Football Study Hall and S&P+ does) ...
Best and worst divisions in the Power 5. And that's all because of those four teams (us, South Carolina, Vandy and Missouri). There was a gulf this past season between the top 10 teams in the SEC and the bottom four.
Season-ending F+/- Ratings (East teams bolded):
1. Alabama
5. Ole Miss
10. LSU
11. Arkansas
16. Mississippi State
18. Tennessee
27. Florida
30. Georgia
33. Auburn
34. Texas A&M (lowest team in the West)
...
75. Missouri
83. Vanderbilt
88. South Carolina
91. Kentucky