Fix it

[Xception]

Everybody has an opinion on how to fix UK football but what exactly would you do ? Be specific and realistic , you can say hire Saban but that is not realistic and it can't happen . Should UK set a contract record and for who ? The only sure fire coaches are probably Saban and Meyer , you know they could win here . Anybody else is just a hope , so do you break the bank and who is the most elite coach that UK could realistically attract ?

Posters always pined for better facilities because they said it would turn the program around , that's now in place . So who has the can't miss solution to this decades long enigma ?

 

[morgousky]

To me, I'd go after a list of 10 home runs. I'd try. Thats's the problem, we don't try. You know the obvious home runs so I don't have to waste time.

My second tier would consist of guys like Leach or Tressel. Proven Head coaches. Again, will it work? I don't know, but I know what won't work. No name defensive coordinators with zero experience.

I don't think if the money was right we'd go past a second tier. We've got the money, spend it.

 

[Xception]

So you think we have the money but aren't trying to spend the max or are we just not even trying to go after big names ? I think Mitch previously swung for the fence but couldn't get anyone to sign , maybe things are different with the facilities . Honestly I don't know why any top coach would risk coaching here , if he can't pull it off then his aura takes a hit . The risk reward is touched up at UK . Is it possible to get a top coach if you went max ? I have a bad feeling that it's not something that could be done , why would they .

 

[morgousky]

So you think we have the money but aren't trying to spend the max or are we just not even trying to go after big names ? I think Mitch previously swung for the fence but couldn't get anyone to sign , maybe things are different with the facilities . Honestly I don't know why any top coach would risk coaching here , if he can't pull it off then his aura takes a hit . The risk reward is touched up at UK . Is it possible to get a top coach if you went max ? I have a bad feeling that it's not something that could be done , why would they .

I never saw one big name that we went after. Maybe we did, but we obviously didnt go hard, because the names that were surfacing were crap. I don't believe we went after a home run hire willing to spend the money.

 

[Xception]

Bill Parcells was one and he suggested Brooks to Mitch , that's a pretty big swing .

 

[morgousky]

Bill Parcells was one and he suggested Brooks to Mitch , that's a pretty big swing .

I do remember that, and I've heard that Parcells was really interested until Dallas came along. But I think that was more him than anything. Mitch just doesn't have what "it" is. I really don't like the guy.

When Doops is shown the door, We've gotta go after a head coach. These coordinators are too risky and rarely work here. I still like the Leach idea if nothing else works.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Smart move would be to make a change now (season end) but Mitch will never do that. He's patient to a fault and financially it appears a waste. The problem with his approach though is that he waits til the program is run in the ground and then the program loses any attractability it may have once had. Right now is the time to cash in on our new facility, renewed $ commitments from the admins, and really good talent at skill positions on the roster if UK is serious about winning football imo. The longer Mitch waits, the more the program will lose value and be harder and harder to sale.

Biggest problem with this is the guy doing the firing would unfortunately be the guy doing the hiring.

 

[morgousky]

Ya know, Leach is a madman. He's borderline crazy and something comes full circle in a severely meaningful way. It'd almost perfect for Uk.

Why not? Someone answer that?

 

[ukbrian]

How about Butch Davis

 

[keefsopeng]

first and foremost, we stay with the team this year and root for their success and not failure. however it seems the writing is on the wall. so realistically the way to fix kentucky football in my eyes is 1 of 3 ways.

#1 we bite the dreaded bullet and hire someone who has something wrong with him but otherwise is a tier 1 coach. Call it the "Petrino" way.

#2 is go after the next Mumme, Leach, Spurier, etc... here is my curveball though we need to branch off that tree. I'm not saying we don't go for a spread passing attack but that was a thing no one was doing 20 years ago and now everyone does it. Think about Spurrier at Duke and early on at Florida. No one was implementing a pass heavy shotgun style of offense like that and he was a mad genius but as time went on he had to change his style and as that happened the ole ball coach became less successful. Let's be innovative and find the next thing and not the end of the current thing. We need a snapchat coach not a Facebook coach.

Option number 3 is the what I'll call the Rich Brooks way. You hire a coach that whether it be an older guy that was successful ala brooks or a middle of the road guy from somewhere that hires a staff that surrounds him is that A+ quality. Not that coaches from groups 1 and 2 wouldn't do that but that's what made coach Brooks so successful. His staff was out of this world. So we try and duplicate that.

I think option 1 and 2 has the chance for bigger success but also higher bust chance. option 3 i think we get similar results to Brooks if done right, and I'm ok with that too until something more promising arises.

What I know absolutely for certain will not work here is a recruiter who can't coach. We will never be able to get a recruiter who can recruit at top 5 level. thats the only way to possibly have a recruiter win in the SEC and guess what we've seen a recruiter, one of the so-called highest level recruiters that there is flop at UT and USC in Kiffin and if it can't be done there it can't be done at UK. So Joker and Stoops, I appreciate what you tried to do, but it's time to go. Hell with any luck Stoops will be fortunate enough to fall upwards like Joker did and this time 3 years from now he'll be on Harbaugh's staff as DC at Michigan

 

[GoCatsForever2k15]

It's been mentioned in other threads, but the "best" hire from a pure coaching pedigree perspective we could have certainly realistically made was Petrino. I know I know, he has baggage- don't care. I take no solace whatsoever in sitting at home making fun of his moral shortcomings while UofL fans head to bowl games year after year

But that ship has obviously sailed. Not sure if there's another plan as airtight as that one was.

 

[Katwatcher]

Everybody has an opinion on how to fix UK football but what exactly would you do ? Be specific and realistic , you can say hire Saban but that is not realistic but it can't happen . Should UK set a contract record and for who ? The only sure fire coaches are probably Saban and Meyer , you know they could win here . Anybody else is just a hope , so do you break the bank and who is the most elite coach that UK could realistically attract ?

Posters always pined for better facilities because they said it would turn the program around , that's now in place . So who has the can't miss solution to this decades long enigma ?

I don't think there is a sure fire coach out there. I know there is Saban and Meyer who are good coaches, but they stepped in to already established programs with football traditions. Steve Spurrier is only coach that comes to mind that actually brought a SEC team from the bottom tier to a contender and that took several years and struggles which didn't hold up for long.

I think the only solution that many don't even want to consider is to give the coaches the needed time it takes to build a program. We are still in the same cycle of hiring coaches and then not having the patience to support them through the hard times. I'm talking about upwards to ten years or even longer. I think it will take this to ever be successful

We have had some good coaches that have failed because the fans and administration think they can go out and fix the problem with a big name. Not going to happen. Kentucky in my opinion is probably the hardest place to coach in nation.

Kentucky is a traditional basket ball state playing in a traditional football conference. Kentucky probably has fewer high schools that play football than any other state in SEC conference. It has taken a while but our facilities are among he best in nation. Now lets support the coaches and players and quit throwing them under the bus every time we lose.

Just my opinion.

 

[MightierPen]

Short term: There is no fix. Realistically, UK Football is done for two seasons, barring a major coaching epiphany for Stoops that none of us can see on the horizon.

While I agree that building a program takes substantial time, you should see fewer red flags in the performance/adjustments of coaches and upperclassmen both within the passage of a season as seasons pass. What we've seen with Stoops and his players on the field is stasis, at best, in both regards.

Long term: Barnhart has to go. Period. You can't give an unproven coach a platinum contract without seeing a level of success on the field. This may sound like Monday Morning Quarterbacking, but it is what is it is. Football isn't basketball, and recruiting isn't enough to guarantee even average levels of success.

So yeah -- I may not have all the answers, but I would say the firing of Barnhart has to be step #1. The lodestone retention of Stoops over this season and the next is essentially a symptom of this larger issue. It's a shame too, because MB and Stoops seem like great human beings, particularly when compared to Jurich and Petrino, who aren't just bottom of the barrel; they're like the sludge beneath it.

 

[carolinacat]

I don't think Stoops will be fired this season. What I project will happen if the season goes the way it appears it will, is Barnhart will demand that he fires Eliot and probably Schlarman as well...major shakeup in the staff....possibly the D Line coach. Stoops' contract will get in the way of a quick termination (thanks Mitch)....which is too bad because I believe a solid coach like a Rich Brooks type could take the talent we have and improve our record.

Alas, it appears Stoops and his staff are decent recruiters but below average at player development and in game adjustments. Unless we can get immediate help at D Line, things are looking bleak for next year.

 

[KattieCat]

If they really want to "fix it" a change is going to have to be made at the top. Everything flows from the top down. If they REALLY want a change in UK football, they need to replace Barnhart with someone who understands and really cares about the sport. Someone who knows and loves the game. If that happened you'd see much better overall decisions being made. Someone like that tends to make home run hires. There are countless examples of this out there. You need someone other than an academic administrator.

 

[51stFan]

I think you have to go after a coach that has won at a place that usually doesn't. Most of the time it's usually someone with an offensive background that puts up an insane # of points. Seems like defensive coaches struggle to win with talent gaps. Also look for coaches that either produce immediate impact when they get to a place or the program kind of takes a step back whenever they leave. Have to have a coach that seems to be in football games that it shouldn't be when you look at it based on recruiting. Never going to have the talent here to consistently win the Les Miles way.

 

[JStaff21]

I think you need to let someone with a football mind conduct the coaching search. Just like UK had Mike Pratt do with basketball. We'd wound up with someone like Tom Crean if Barnhart had done the hiring alone. Also you don't give a coach with a losing record an extension just because he lands a few 4 stars.

With that said, it appears the biggest problem is Barnhart himself. Most of his hires haven't been the best. Concerning football Rich Brooks was the only good hire. While I'd like a clean program and don't want to stoop to UofL and UNC levels to win, I would be okay taking a guy with a little bagage and giving him a second chance. And there's the problem... We currently won't do that.

We need a coach who is a proven head coach. I'm with a poster above. We need to seriously pursue a proven coach. Someone everyone knows can coach and we give him time... Because it will take time. If I knew Stoops could coach, I'd be willing to give him time. However, in his 4 years I've seen nothing that suggests he can handle being a head coach.

UK can be decent. With the right coach, we could be 6-6 to 8-4 most years and compete for 9-10 wins every 3-5 years. We just have to be willing to seriously take a risk and hope it pays off.

 

[carolinacat]

I think you have to go after a coach that has won at a place that usually doesn't. Most of the time it's usually someone with an offensive background that puts up an insane # of points. Seems like defensive coaches struggle to win with talent gaps. Also look for coaches that either produce immediate impact when they get to a place or the program kind of takes a step back whenever they leave. Have to have a coach that seems to be in football games that it shouldn't be when you look at it based on recruiting. Never going to have the talent here to consistently win the Les Miles way.

My biggest reservation with Stoops was the fact that 1) He'd never been a head coach....2) He had succeeded at a school where they had overwhelming talent for the most part...
I agree we need a guy that has proven he can punch above his weight at a school without a track record of football success (like UK).

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

UK can be decent. With the right coach, we could be 6-6 to 8-4 most years and compete for 9-10 wins every 3-5 years. We just have to be willing to seriously take a risk and hope it pays off.

Why do you believe this? We have so many disadvantages. What about our circumstances says that we shouldn't perennially be a bottom 2 finisher in the SEC?

 

[51stFan]

My biggest reservation with Stoops was the fact that 1) He'd never been a head coach....2) He had succeeded at a school where they had overwhelming talent for the most part...
I agree we need a guy that has proven he can punch above his weight at a school without a track record of football success (like UK).

I agree. Unless you are stealing the head man that is not on the hot seat (Bill Curry), then going after an assistant at a major program is a gamble. Winning at Florida State is a whole lot easier than UK. Got to find coaches that win with less. Not many out there, but Petrino was unfortunately one of them. He is one of those guys that can beat you with his team and turn around and beat you a lot of times with your team if the opportunity existed.

 

[JStaff21]

Why do you believe this? We have so many disadvantages. What about our circumstances says that we shouldn't perennially be a bottom 2 finisher in the SEC?

Because we've been on the verge before. We just always seem to make a bad hire and go backwards. Rich Brooks had us at back to back 8-5 and three straight 7 win seasons.... Then we hired Joker. If we got a coach to lay a foundation, ala Brooks and made a good hire, success could continue. Most years we'd be 6-6, 7-5 a few years we'd be 8-4. And once in awhile we could compete for 9-10 wins if the stars align.

There was a time we looked at our schedule and thought we would beat Vandy and Miss St. We thought we had great shots against Ole Miss, UofL and South Carolina on a regular basis. All these programs made good hires at some point. If SC can attract Steve Spurrier then I know UK can find a good proven coach. And that's the first step to those winning seasons.

 

[Bluetick2100]

Good players do not want to play at UK.
Good coaches do not want to coach at UK.

Change those two reasons and the problem is fixed.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Fire Elliot immediately. Must be done. Make Stoops take over DC responsibility. That should be a step in the right direction.

Make no mistake, we're in big trouble. We have basically zero on the DL, and I'm not sure we have anything in the pipeline. If we don't land some important jucos, next year won't be any better.

Every other units is on its way. Talent upgrades have been incredible everywhere else. We're so close, but it won't matter if we can't stop a team like USM from running over us.

 

[Kats23]

First thing I would do is meet with Stoops. Find out where he thinks the problems are. Why the team has quit so many times in the past couple years.

Secondly, meet with the team. Find out if they truly believe in Stoops.

End of the year, if things haven't worked out, I start making calls. To Brohm, to Leach, to Bo Pelini. I try to make an under the table agreement w/ one of them. I have a booster pay them a nice "stay quiet" fee and the first day that Stoops' buyout lowers I move on from him, announce I'm looking for a new coach. Week later I announce new coach

 

[LowCountryCat]

Jim Tressel is the answer. He'll be eligible soon. And he'll get hired. We should be talking to him now.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Because we've been on the verge before. We just always seem to make a bad hire and go backwards. Rich Brooks had us at back to back 8-5 and three straight 7 win seasons.... Then we hired Joker. If we got a coach to lay a foundation, ala Brooks and made a good hire, success could continue. Most years we'd be 6-6, 7-5 a few years we'd be 8-4. And once in awhile we could compete for 9-10 wins if the stars align.

There was a time we looked at our schedule and thought we would beat Vandy and Miss St. We thought we had great shots against Ole Miss, UofL and South Carolina on a regular basis. All these programs made good hires at some point. If SC can attract Steve Spurrier then I know UK can find a good proven coach. And that's the first step to those winning seasons.

Just to clarify the record...It wasn't "then we hired Joker." What happened was that Joker was next in line because Brooks QUIT due to Barney reneging on his promise to upgrade the facilities.

Again, this goes back to Mitch.

 

[Crootin]

We don't need a big name, an elite coach, or any home runs. What we need is a good football coach. He must also have previous HC experience.

The next head football coach should come from this list right here: http://www.campusrush.com/college-f...el-herman-briles-fedora-rhule-1993202814.html
You hire someone who's got experience being the head man, someone who's ready to step up and show what he can do at a higher level and you take a shot. Of course you've got to pay him and there will be some risk involved(as with all hires) but it's a pretty simple, proven formula.

 

[Your worst nightmare]

Stop recruiting Ohio. They are overrated. Recruit traditional SEC areas.

Stop coddling the players. If they threaten to leave, let them. Stoops needs to be the boss of the team. Enough with the "who runs Bartertown" crapola. No player and his posse is larger than the team.

If a player isn't giving his all, yank him and put in the next guy. Don't worry about his "feelings". This is big boy football. (or it should be...)

Stop with the PR and all the cute promotions. Winning will take care of all that. Fire the PR guys and hire coaches that can recruit in Alabama, Georgia and Florida.

 

[JStaff21]

Just to clarify the record...It wasn't "then we hired Joker." What happened was that Joker was next in line because Brooks QUIT due to Barney reneging on his promise to upgrade the facilities.

Again, this goes back to Mitch.

True. Barnhart is the main problem. Would have loved to have Brooks a while longer. But my point remains. From a decent coach to an unproven coordinator.

We need an AD who gives 2 squats about football. Hell, we need an AD who knows what he's doing.

 

[Katwatcher]

I think you need to let someone with a football mind conduct the coaching search. Just like UK had Mike Pratt do with basketball. We'd wound up with someone like Tom Crean if Barnhart had done the hiring alone. Also you don't give a coach with a losing record an extension just because he lands a few 4 stars.

With that said, it appears the biggest problem is Barnhart himself. Most of his hires haven't been the best. Concerning football Rich Brooks was the only good hire. While I'd like a clean program and don't want to stoop to UofL and UNC levels to win, I would be okay taking a guy with a little bagage and giving him a second chance. And there's the problem... We currently won't do that.

We need a coach who is a proven head coach. I'm with a poster above. We need to seriously pursue a proven coach. Someone everyone knows can coach and we give him time... Because it will take time. If I knew Stoops could coach, I'd be willing to give him time. However, in his 4 years I've seen nothing that suggests he can handle being a head coach.

UK can be decent. With the right coach, we could be 6-6 to 8-4 most years and compete for 9-10 wins every 3-5 years. We just have to be willing to seriously take a risk and hope it pays off.

I agree with most of what your saying, however it depends on how many four stars is a few or how long the losing streak is. Also hiring a coach with a little baggage is risky also.

I agree Stoops has seemed hesitant with certain problems, we don't really know what some of the problems were, but he now has 4 years on the job training which should count for something. In other words he now has 4 years experience on the job training. Go Cats

It seems to me Stoops has a good work ethic and a big challenge in front of him.
I don't think its necessary to take the risk,
Stoops previous jobs doesn't show any problems. Hire a coach with character and let him fill the coaching slots, sometimes that might take a little time. I think Stoops has done a decent job with what he had to work with starting day 1.

 

[jc2010]

first and foremost, we stay with the team this year and root for their success and not failure. however it seems the writing is on the wall. so realistically the way to fix kentucky football in my eyes is 1 of 3 ways.

#1 we bite the dreaded bullet and hire someone who has something wrong with him but otherwise is a tier 1 coach. Call it the "Petrino" way.

#2 is go after the next Mumme, Leach, Spurier, etc... here is my curveball though we need to branch off that tree. I'm not saying we don't go for a spread passing attack but that was a thing no one was doing 20 years ago and now everyone does it. Think about Spurrier at Duke and early on at Florida. No one was implementing a pass heavy shotgun style of offense like that and he was a mad genius but as time went on he had to change his style and as that happened the ole ball coach became less successful. Let's be innovative and find the next thing and not the end of the current thing. We need a snapchat coach not a Facebook coach.

Option number 3 is the what I'll call the Rich Brooks way. You hire a coach that whether it be an older guy that was successful ala brooks or a middle of the road guy from somewhere that hires a staff that surrounds him is that A+ quality. Not that coaches from groups 1 and 2 wouldn't do that but that's what made coach Brooks so successful. His staff was out of this world. So we try and duplicate that.

I think option 1 and 2 has the chance for bigger success but also higher bust chance. option 3 i think we get similar results to Brooks if done right, and I'm ok with that too until something more promising arises.

What I know absolutely for certain will not work here is a recruiter who can't coach. We will never be able to get a recruiter who can recruit at top 5 level. thats the only way to possibly have a recruiter win in the SEC and guess what we've seen a recruiter, one of the so-called highest level recruiters that there is flop at UT and USC in Kiffin and if it can't be done there it can't be done at UK. So Joker and Stoops, I appreciate what you tried to do, but it's time to go. Hell with any luck Stoops will be fortunate enough to fall upwards like Joker did and this time 3 years from now he'll be on Harbaugh's staff as DC at Michigan

Reading this got me thinking. Option 3, if Barney hadn't lied to Brooks and updated the place and gave him the money for assistants, we wouldn't be having these conversations.

Brooks had us in a good place but we couldn't get to the next level without the updates Brooks wanted and money to keep a good staff. We were playing good fundamental football and seldom got outcoached

 

[JStaff21]

I agree with most of what your saying, however it depends on how many four stars is a few or how long the losing streak is. Also hiring a coach with a little baggage is risky also.

I agree Stoops has seemed hesitant with certain problems, we don't really know what some of the problems were, but he now has 4 years on the job training which should count for something. In other words he now has 4 years experience on the job training. Go Cats

It seems to me Stoops has a good work ethic and a big challenge in front of him.
I don't think its necessary to take the risk,
Stoops previous jobs doesn't show any problems. Hire a coach with character and let him fill the coaching slots, sometimes that might take a little time. I think Stoops has done a decent job with what he had to work with starting day 1.

I was a 5 year guy but after 2 season collapses and the last 2 games I'm thinking Stoops coaching may be the issue. We got rid of Dawson and while I do think Gran is an improvement, it's clear Stoops is micromanaging him as well. As a head coach, you should hire guys you trust and not feel the need to peer over their shoulder when you put up 35 points at half.

I realize a lot of what us that are upset are saying could very well be a knee jerk reaction considering it was week 1... But you don't blow 20+ point leads like that. We nearly did that vs SC last year. It's starting to look more common than occasional.

I hope we get this turned around and have a great season. I just fear we won't.

 

[TBCat]

I don't think Stoops will be fired this season. What I project will happen if the season goes the way it appears it will, is Barnhart will demand that he fires Eliot and probably Schlarman as well...major shakeup in the staff....possibly the D Line coach. Stoops' contract will get in the way of a quick termination (thanks Mitch)....which is too bad because I believe a solid coach like a Rich Brooks type could take the talent we have and improve our record.

Alas, it appears Stoops and his staff are decent recruiters but below average at player development and in game adjustments. Unless we can get immediate help at D Line, things are looking bleak for next year.

I'd say they are a lot worse than below average. Stoops is probably the worst that's ever coached here. I believe even Bill Curry would have won 6 games either this year or last with the players we have. We go bowling if we just knock off the stupid special teams screw ups alone. Saturday we lost by 9 and gave up 10 points off special teams miscues. Even with the bad defense and disappearing offense we'd still have a shot to win if we just stop screwing up. But opening the game with a blocked kick followed by a muffed FG, Geesh.

 

[dgtatu01]

One problem I see with the coaching is that Stoops has no balls. We get a lead and we start playing ultra conservative on both sides of the ball. The only time we really ever take the gloves off on offense is when we are down big. I think we have some real nice players that could get to a bowl game, but Stoops doesn't have the gumption to get it done. We need to find another Brooks. Tressell would fall in the category imo.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Lets play pretend where I was given the A.D. job at UK today. I'd immediately pay a former player like Couch to see if Briles would be interested. Then Brohm and on down the line of my top 20 candidates. Find out how much it would cost to guarantee a signature and go from there.
If all 20 say no. Find one i'm comfortable with and then move on to the next phase

Then I'd go around and work tirelessly getting money from boosters for a buyout. I'd even take a pay cut to pitch in. If you dont have to pay the buyout right away I'd let Stoops go and have Gran be interim . Tell him 2 things. 1. Elliot will not be DC and 2. He has a shot at the coaching job if he impresses me .

As for what type of coach. I gave my top 10 list in another thread. All 10 have proven they can put points on the board, head coaching experience and shown competence at team managing.

If the choice is going to Briles. I would start a P.R. campaign like we did with Cal to smooth things over a little with those who think he shouldnt be coach.

 

[law1127]

I would go to Wisconsin and dissect their program top to bottom. Anybody that thinks Wisconsin is a hotbed of football talent,needs to look closer. Barry Alvarez, Brett Bielima,and current coach have mastered their system,where they take less stars and regularly beat more stars! That's coaching and schemes,which by the results on the field,we don't have!

 

[Anon1668578572]

How about hiring a real live D1 head coach? Not a coordinator or lower level coach. Last one we hired we had to drag him off the couch (Brooks)

 

[sluggercatfan]

Everybody has an opinion on how to fix UK football but what exactly would you do ? Be specific and realistic , you can say hire Saban but that is not realistic and it can't happen . Should UK set a contract record and for who ? The only sure fire coaches are probably Saban and Meyer , you know they could win here . Anybody else is just a hope , so do you break the bank and who is the most elite coach that UK could realistically attract ?

Posters always pined for better facilities because they said it would turn the program around , that's now in place . So who has the can't miss solution to this decades long enigma ?

After MS gets thru failing and gets his millions to leave I want someone who is a proven successful HC and I'm not so much worried what level it is on, kay:kay:kay:but I do have two high on my list

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

Because we've been on the verge before. We just always seem to make a bad hire and go backwards. Rich Brooks had us at back to back 8-5 and three straight 7 win seasons.... Then we hired Joker. If we got a coach to lay a foundation, ala Brooks and made a good hire, success could continue. Most years we'd be 6-6, 7-5 a few years we'd be 8-4. And once in awhile we could compete for 9-10 wins if the stars align.

There was a time we looked at our schedule and thought we would beat Vandy and Miss St. We thought we had great shots against Ole Miss, UofL and South Carolina on a regular basis. All these programs made good hires at some point. If SC can attract Steve Spurrier then I know UK can find a good proven coach. And that's the first step to those winning seasons.

The only reason we won 7 regular season games during those years is because UofL was a dumpster fire with kragthorpe. Then we got to 8 in a bowl against opponents that didn't really want to be there. I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest that anything better than 8 regular season wins is even remotely possible. How far do you have to go back to even get that many? 32 years?

Sorry you all can't face reality.

 

[billoliver40]

Fix it????

Go ahead and out-Louisville the country. Hire Orgeron as recruiter, Briles as head man, go ahead and get Kiffen in the mix.

After we get off probation, we will be in the title hunt.
Works on Madden College football with every team.
Pay the piper, take your medicine and win.
Worked for Miami.
Working for Louisville.

Seems like that's the secret to success.
Replace Alabama as what the NCAA called the most unrepentant multiple offender ever.

AUBURN did all right with it with Newton.
Meyer made a career of it at Florida.
We won't even talk about Penn State or the Oklahoma dynasty.