Fleck contract extension

Gocatsgo2003

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Now I have to look at his very punchable face for the next decade


At least Frost is on the way out. He'd be gone for sure if not for our beat-down temporarily raising their hopes.

Methinks PJ might’ve leveraged the USC opening to get an extension out of Minnesota. Will be interesting to see contract details as they trickle out, especially the buyout provisions. I still think PJ will jump to a “bigger name” school at the first good opportunity with all the hot air about loving Minnesota purely for image and recruiting purposes.

EDIT: Should’ve googled before posting, as that’s already available.

“The new contract raises Fleck’s annual salary from $4.65 million to $5.1 million. His buyout is $10 million before Dec. 31, 2022, then drops down to $7 million following year, $5 million the next year, and $4 million the year after that.”


That is probably enough to give pause to all but the deepest-pocketed programs through 12/31/2022, but not exactly overly prohibitive.
 

Sheffielder

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1. Continues to concern me how fast coaching salaries continue to inflate. Fleck worth $5M? Really? Then again, I got a fairly unpleasant survey from Northwestern yesterday asking me if I'd pay $1500 per seat/per game so maybe I shouldn't be throwing shade at Minny for overpaying coaches.

2. Wouldn't it be awesome if there were an NCAA reg that both the coach and the program must actually honor their contract through the end of it, regardless of performance (only fire/quit "for cause")? Would that be the end of theatrical contract extensions? I can dream.

3. Wouldn't it be awesome if it became a sort of custom that a coach would donate back some of their inflated salary for losing seasons? Scott Frost would still be a millionaire and be able to live like a king in downtown Nebraska City.

End of my mid-day musings.
 
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1. Continues to concern me how fast coaching salaries continue to inflate. Fleck worth $5M? Really? Then again, I got a fairly unpleasant survey from Northwestern yesterday asking me if I'd pay $1500 per seat/per game so maybe I shouldn't be throwing shade at Minny for overpaying coaches.

2. Wouldn't it be awesome if there were an NCAA reg that both the coach and the program must actually honor their contract through the end of it, regardless of performance (only fire/quit "for cause")? Would that be the end of theatrical contract extensions? I can dream.

3. Wouldn't it be awesome if it became a sort of custom that a coach would donate back some of their inflated salary for losing seasons? Scott Frost would still be a millionaire and be able to live like a king in downtown Nebraska City.

End of my mid-day musings.
Football coaches are the highest paid people in almost every state. I think there may be one BBall coach in like Kansas and a Medical professor in NY that are highest paid. As a student of economics, I don't know of any other market that is skewed like this. In high school, the coaches largely get bupkus and the players as get nothing. In the pros, they both make a lot. In other college sports besides MBB, the salaries are in line with other professionals. Just college football. I don't know enough about global sports but I'd venture to say that junior hockey and soccer coaches / managers do not make millions. Very weird, and, as far as I know, unique market.
 

GOUNUII

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Football coaches are the highest paid people in almost every state. I think there may be one BBall coach in like Kansas and a Medical professor in NY that are highest paid. As a student of economics, I don't know of any other market that is skewed like this. In high school, the coaches largely get bupkus and the players as get nothing. In the pros, they both make a lot. In other college sports besides MBB, the salaries are in line with other professionals. Just college football. I don't know enough about global sports but I'd venture to say that junior hockey and soccer coaches / managers do not make millions. Very weird, and, as far as I know, unique market.
I'm not an economics person, but I do know that college football and basketball are incredibly lucrative entertainment industries because the demand for that entertainment is both very high and remarkably strong. There is also the "return on investment" aspect of the industry. The connection between successful revenue producing sports and a university's alumni/friend giving is well documented. And then there's the name recognition/image value. NU receives a significant amount of free advertising and image enhancement through its televised participation in the BIG?

The coaches drive the entertainment and it's ancillary benefits because the best players follow the best coaches and their programs. So comparing these coaches to other state employees misses the mark in my opinion. I would argue they need to be compared to key drivers in other entertainment industries (both in sports and otherwise) that have comparable revenues/profits. And in that context I don't think the numbers would look skewed at all.

GOUNUII
 
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I'm not an economics person, but I do know that college football and basketball are incredibly lucrative entertainment industries because the demand for that entertainment is both very high and remarkably strong. There is also the "return on investment" aspect of the industry. The connection between successful revenue producing sports and a university's alumni/friend giving is well documented. And then there's the name recognition/image value. NU receives a significant amount of free advertising and image enhancement through its televised participation in the BIG?

The coaches drive the entertainment and it's ancillary benefits because the best players follow the best coaches and their programs. So comparing these coaches to other state employees misses the mark in my opinion. I would argue they need to be compared to key drivers in other entertainment industries (both in sports and otherwise) that have comparable revenues/profits. And in that context I don't think the numbers would look skewed at all.

GOUNUII
the skew is that the players receive next to nothing, although this is changing. In other entertainment situations, the actors make a lot AND the director/producer makes a lot.

It's more like horse racing where the owner gets the most, then the trainer, then the jockey, then the horse.
 

Hungry Jack

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That MSN bot is always exclaiming about "the world reacting to the news." Do people in Bangladesh and Franz Josef Land really care about PJ Fleck and college football?
 
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1. Continues to concern me how fast coaching salaries continue to inflate. Fleck worth $5M? Really? Then again, I got a fairly unpleasant survey from Northwestern yesterday asking me if I'd pay $1500 per seat/per game so maybe I shouldn't be throwing shade at Minny for overpaying coaches.
And yet UTEP isn't even sure that their conference will survive. It sure seems like the gulf between the haves and the have-nots is widening.