General Stand Watie

John Henry

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Most history books used today in our public schools fail to mention five Native American tribes supported the South in the War Between the States. Maybe they still do in Oklahoma, I am not sure . The five tribes who sided with the Confederacy are Cherokees, Creeks, Seminoles, Chickasaw and Choctaw.

 

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Given how little time is spent on Civil War history at all, not surprising this minuscule point is not on the prime list of items discussed.
 

JumperJack

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Can’t blame them for being pissed at the gubmint.

What a PC mind bender it would be to tear down his statue. If he had one.
 

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What is the historical importance of this that is so illustrative or significant that it should be taught in a middle or high school classroom?
 

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Not surprising that native Americans would want to fight against the Union after they way they had been subjugated
 

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I just remember they use to barter fruits and vegetables at the tributary for salted pork and grains.
 

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What is the historical importance of this that is so illustrative or significant that it should be taught in a middle or high school classroom?

In other words, "what's an Indian anyhow?" So why would anything concerning Native Americans be of significance to teach in our schools.

Stand Waite was a Cherokee Chief from Georgia who was moved to Oklahoma by Union troops "The Trail of Tears". When gold was discovered in the North Georgia mountains the Indian had to go and the U.S. government took their land. They probably had similar feelings as you , what was an Indian anyway. . What had been the Cherokee Nation became one of the first gold rushes in America and the U.S.government actually established a U.S. Mint in Dahlonega, Georgia.

After the War, the U.S. government and army went on an all out assault on the Native Americans to take their land and many know the rest of that story. But as you said, what is the historical significance of a Native American.
 
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buckethead1978

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No. That isn't what I said at all.

Maybe you could teach it in a cross-cultural perspective. Stand Watie owned slaves. He picked that up from southern Americans.

I don't see why you would spend more than a footnote on it when teaching the Civil War
 

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In other words, "what's an Indian anyhow?" So why would anything concerning Native Americans be of significance to teach in our schools.

Stand Waite was a Cherokee Chief from Georgia who was moved to Oklahoma by Union troops "The Trail of Tears". When gold was discovered in the North Georgia mountains the Indian had to go and the U.S. government took their land. They probably had similar feelings as you , what was an Indian anyway. . What had been the Cherokee Nation became one of the first gold rushes in America and the U.S.government actually established a U.S. Mint in Dahlonega, Georgia.

After the War, the U.S. government and army went on an all out assault on the Native Americans to take their land and many know the rest of that story. But as you said, what is the historical significance of a Native American.
A good book to read is "Crazy Horse and Custer" by Stehen Ambrose
Shows how disingenuous our government can be
 
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Most history books used today in our public schools fail to mention five Native American tribes supported the South in the War Between the States. Maybe they still do in Oklahoma, I am not sure . The five tribes who sided with the Confederacy are Cherokees, Creeks, Seminoles, Chickasaw and Choctaw.

not trying to be critical, but I'm almost certain that Catawba people not only fought for the Confederacy (South Carolina regiments, maybe also Georgia), but that they suffered casualties so extensive their further survival as a people was marginal. Assuming the information you have provided is correct, there are at least 6 tribes that fought with the CSA.

Also, and a bit amusing, is that some of the participating posters seemed to have missed your point. No, it probably is not "mentioned", and a "mention" would certainly not exceed the "footnote" a poster above insisted would be adequate. They both appeared to imply your focus was on Mr. Waite and not the tribes.
 
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I wish the South had won. No I don’t care what you think about it. Slavery stood to be abolished in the west regardless. There is no United States. Californians have zero in common with southerners and vice versa.

Our government is corrupt top to bottom.

One day there will be a nationwide split. We won’t be alive but it’s coming.

And of course, the best place to live will be the Republic of the Southern Confederacy.

Get dirty b******.
 
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I wish the South had won. No I don’t care what you think about it. Slavery stood to be abolished in the west regardless. There is no United States. Californians have zero in common with southerners and vice versa.

Our government is corrupt top to bottom.

One day there will be a nationwide split. We won’t be alive but it’s coming.

And of course, the best place to live will be the Republic of the Southern Confederacy.

Get dirty b******.
As good as late Friday nochy gets. Real horrorshow. Enjoy my droogies!

 
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