Georgia Southern's offense...

[rmattox]

I love high scoring offenses. Usually they are pass oriented, but I really enjoyed watching Ga Southern run the option. Great speed and skilled qb's.

As I watched, my son and I talked about how a team like that could come in and shock some big team that wasn't prepared to defend them.

Fun game....Love them there bowls!

 

[seccats04]

They beat Florida a couple years ago running this offense. That's more than I can say for us [sick]

 

[Tskware]

Ga Tech won the Orange Bowl beating Georgia and Miss State along the way last season. But like most one sided offenses (all pass or all run), if the timing is a bit off, or you don't have the right personnel, you are pretty much without choices. Tech was one of the biggest disappointments in the season this year, as a prime example.

 

[Johnfarrel]

One receiver caught his first pass in the bowl game and another caught his fourth. I believe they had less than a dozen total passes in their last 3 games. If they played in the SEC they would get slaughtered most of the time.

 

[EnPassant]

They won three years ago in the Swamp, they led until about 30 sec left in Atlanta vs that Orange Bowl winning Tech team two years ago, and last year they played Georgia into overtime in Athens. That's a good team.

 

[UKani]

Hal Mumme said in his radio interview that when an offense forces a defense to play in the extreme, that offense will do well. He said his offense, Air Raid forces defenses to play in the extreme by defending the whole field and in the passing game the whole time, he says it works because teams still aren't used to that.

He then said teams that commit to option football and run nothing but that and make the pass a 3rd option or last resort also does well because you again force the defense to play in a different type of extreme that they aren't used too.
So I guess in regards to Georgia Southern and Georgia Tech, he's right.

 

[Robcatt24]

Nick Saban thinks very highly of Georgia Southern.

 

[NavyCat88]

GSU doesn't run traditional under-center TO any more. They operate from the shotgun nearly every play with more of a spread option scheme (similar QB reads though).....they are very effective with their new style. They throw the ball more now (with the traditional TO, they beat UF in the swamp a couple of years ago without attempting a pass). They had UGA on the ropes this year on the road. They just hired a new coach (former GSU background), so it will be interesting to see if the offense changes next year.

GSU is a very solid program with a no-nonsense, no-excuses fanbase. They hired and discarded Hatcher (and the air raid) quickly when it was clear he didn't "have it."....went back to their ground game and rediscovered success. When they were FCS, they had more NCs than any other team...the "bama" of 1-AA. Their rivalry with App State in the SOCON was legendary. Now, App State and GSU will reshuffle the power balance in the SunBelt.

 

[NavyCat88]

Nick Saban thinks very highly of Georgia Southern.

Yep, and that was when GSU was a FCS squad facing Bama....not FBS like they are now. So Carolina learned a tough lesson about the FCS level triple option this year against The Citadel.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

One receiver caught his first pass in the bowl game and another caught his fourth. I believe they had less than a dozen total passes in their last 3 games. If they played in the SEC they would get slaughtered most of the time.

They would have trouble stopping the better offenses in the SEC, but 2 years ago they played Bama who ended up beating them pretty good but they still rushed for over 350 yards. If you have a qb who is the threat that number 13 was running the offense you are a threat to score every snap, as BGU found out last night. With it being as unique as it is in todays college football, you can't practice against it at the speed it comes at you in the game, with a guy running a 4.3 at qb it happens fast. BGU defenders said stopping it wouldn't be an issue, until they had to stop it. They would win 2-4 game in the SEC right now.

 

[Blue Decade]

I don't know what the purpose of this thread is. But if anyone actually believes Kentucky should run Georgia Southern's offense, let me be the 1st here to say they are nuts. It doesn't matter that Georgia Southern has surprised a couple of SEC teams who were overlooking them in nonconference games. You can't run that offense in an 8 game SEC schedule and expect to be successful. There is this thing called scouting and game planning. SEC teams take it pretty seriously when they are preparing to play other SEC teams. In order to win consistently in our conference, you need offensive balance in addition to skilled players.

 

[EliteBlue]

I don't know what the purpose of this thread is. But if anyone actually believes Kentucky should run Georgia Southern's offense, let me be the 1st here to say they are nuts. It doesn't matter that Georgia Southern has surprised a couple of SEC teams who were overlooking them in nonconference games. You can't run that offense in an 8 game SEC schedule and expect to be successful. There is this thing called scouting and game planning. SEC teams take it pretty seriously when they are preparing to play other SEC teams. In order to win consistently in our conference, you need offensive balance in addition to skilled players.

That just isn't accurate. As of right now teams don't have to "scout and game plan" for KY week. They just tweak what they already do and use superior talent because they see a better variation of what we do every week. I'm not sayin UK should go TO but it would at least make teams use an entire week focusing on Ky and learning how to stop a system they only see once a year. That's why these FCS teams have success against the big boys is because it isn't something they are use to seeing. And TO football takes reps and discipline to consistently stop it.

FCS schools and the academy guys normally run it because it helps compensate for a undersized line and allows them to control the time of possession and effectively shorten the game. If we ran it we'd be doing I with a higher level athlete as well. Georgia Tech has had success with it. Their down years are 6 win seasons and up years are 10 win seasons. I'm pretty sure we'd have similar results. 6-8 wins a year with the occasional 9-10 win season when the stars align.

Obviously we can build to that with multiple offenses but discrediting the advantages of triple option is silly. It's like saying air raid can't work because d's scheme for it now and you don't have enough speed at this level. Not to mention Oregon has ran essentially a spread option offense since chip kelly.

 

[reflaine]

Two words:

Bill Curry

 

[Blue Decade]

That just isn't accurate. As of right now teams don't have to "scout and game plan" for KY week. They just tweak what they already do and use superior talent because they see a better variation of what we do every week. I'm not sayin UK should go TO but it would at least make teams use an entire week focusing on Ky and learning how to stop a system they only see once a year. That's why these FCS teams have success against the big boys is because it isn't something they are use to seeing. And TO football takes reps and discipline to consistently stop it.

FCS schools and the academy guys normally run it because it helps compensate for a undersized line and allows them to control the time of possession and effectively shorten the game. If we ran it we'd be doing I with a higher level athlete as well. Georgia Tech has had success with it. Their down years are 6 win seasons and up years are 10 win seasons. I'm pretty sure we'd have similar results. 6-8 wins a year with the occasional 9-10 win season when the stars align.

Obviously we can build to that with multiple offenses but discrediting the advantages of triple option is silly. It's like saying air raid can't work because d's scheme for it now and you don't have enough speed at this level. Not to mention Oregon has ran essentially a spread option offense since chip kelly.

You say my conclusion isn't accurate. Then you state your own opinion. That doesn't make you right. Georgia Tech would not be successful against an 8 game SEC schedule. And BTW, Oregon's offense is not similar in any significant way to Georgia Southern's offense. We can debate this, but SEC coaches are voting with their jobs. If they thought it would work, they would run it. But you don't see, and you won't see, SEC coaches running that offense, because they know they would lose more games than they would win. I believe them.

 

[NavyCat88]

What kind of offense did Tom Osborne run at Nebraska?

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I don't know what the purpose of this thread is. But if anyone actually believes Kentucky should run Georgia Southern's offense, let me be the 1st here to say they are nuts. It doesn't matter that Georgia Southern has surprised a couple of SEC teams who were overlooking them in nonconference games. You can't run that offense in an 8 game SEC schedule and expect to be successful. There is this thing called scouting and game planning. SEC teams take it pretty seriously when they are preparing to play other SEC teams. In order to win consistently in our conference, you need offensive balance in addition to skilled players.

I have to disagree with this, GT runs a version of the same offense, they won their division last year in the ACC and had FSU on the ropes in the ACC championship. They beat UGA in the regular season and beat MissST like a drum in their bowl game. The real issue is they can't recruit very well because it doesn't get offensive players ready to play in the NFL because the NFL is a passing league now. I am not saying you can win the SEC running an option offense every year, but AU won the NC and the SEC 2 years ago running a run option based offense, with elite level running qbs. Cam wasn't a good passer at AU, Marshall wasn't either. Cam had the skills to be a good passer and has developed in the NFL, but it has taken a couple of years. So saying you can't be successful is a bit of a stretch, look at AU's offense without and effective runner at QB this year.