Give me your tired, your poor,

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That's from a poem on the base of the Statue of Liberty. It was written by a liberal progressive woman. Not a founding father, has no standing in law. It's a nice pity poem for liberals, by liberals. Try googling the phrase "When the Saxon began to hate." Written by Kipling. Trigger warning for snow flakes, SJW's, and all QWERTY keyboard sexuals.
 

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I'd settle for a 6'11' center who could average 14 and 10
I'd settle for a good rod and reel. Give them fish and they will eat for a day, teach them how to fish and they will eat for a lifetime.

Send those who know how to them and teach them how so they can help themselves so that those who work hard for theirs here can keep what they have earned. It has been proven time and again that if you continue to give and not teach, they will always have their hand out. Teach them how to make or get their own and their hands will always be busy and productive.
 
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Worked for my family when they arrived here from Ireland. Love that poem. There must be a lot more hardcore republican native Americans than I’d thought based on the salty comments in this thread.
 
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Worked for my family when they arrived here from Ireland. Love that poem. There must be a lot more hardcore republican native Americans than I’d thought based on the salty comments in this thread.
A Heinz 57 variety of spices in the Paddock because we are so diverse.
 

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Worked for my family when they arrived here from Ireland. Love that poem. There must be a lot more hardcore republican native Americans than I’d thought based on the salty comments in this thread.
So your family came here and didn’t seek to gain citizenship legally? They just boated over and got out, skipped Ellis Island or any immigration port.
 

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"We were too chickenshit to come over 2-300 yrs prior to help clear the way and civilize the countryside, but just as soon as that nasty business was done we were more than happy to come on over and then criticize the hell out of you for it."
 

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So your family came here and didn’t seek to gain citizenship legally? They just boated over and got out, skipped Ellis Island or any immigration port.

I believe they went through Ellis Island. Does that change something for you about the poem? Should it for me in your book? Not following how the two are related.
 

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I believe they went through Ellis Island. Does that change something for you about the poem? Should it for me in your book? Not following how the two are related.
Ambiguous posts are a hallmark of op, don’t make a clear stance and it doesn’t have to be defended. Your post too was similar in nature, so I have to ask questions to know exactly what your point is. Not sure if you advocate illegal alien entry and believe a poem but not law supports that. Because otherwise nobody rejects legal entry, so that must be your point.

Throw in your Republican and Native American references and it leaves people to assume that’s your point but maybe not. Since it’s not entirely clear I wanted to know if your family came in legally as opposed to what’s happening at our southern border, the two are nothing alike.
 
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Ambiguous posts are a hallmark of op, don’t make a clear stance and it doesn’t have to be defended. Your post too was similar in nature, so I have to ask questions to know exactly what your point is. Not sure if you advocate illegal alien entry and believe a poem but not law supports that. Because otherwise nobody rejects legal entry, so that must be your point.

Throw in your Republican and Native American references and it leaves people to assume that’s your point but maybe not. Since it’s not entirely clear I wanted to know if your family came in legally as opposed to what’s happening at our southern border, the two are nothing alike.

I believe in legal immigration. I love the poem for the fact that to me at least it means that America represents a place of opportunity for all people. All kinds of rules apply to those people but if you’re willing to work hard anything is possible here. Nothing too controversial.

The indigenous republicans comment was speaking to the few above who seem to think the borders should have been closed once their families got here. Snarky for sure but we’re almost all descendants of immigrants here. Not sure why some look down on them. Even the poor ones. Doubt many people came here with a bunch of money. I know my family didn’t. But they worked hard and improved their circumstances. American dream and all that.
 

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I believe in legal immigration. I love the poem for the fact that to me at least it means that America represents a place of opportunity for all people. All kinds of rules apply to those people but if you’re willing to work hard anything is possible here. Nothing too controversial.

The indigenous republicans comment was speaking to the few above who seem to think the borders should have been closed once their families got here. Snarky for sure but we’re almost all descendants of immigrants here. Not sure why some look down on them. Even the poor ones. Doubt many people came here with a bunch of money. I know my family didn’t. But they worked hard and improved their circumstances. American dream and all that.
I think any dissent is against illegals but then there has been an influx of Muslims that want American benefits but also want to change America to mirror Islam. To that I say keep them out as well, enter legally and become American instead of an anti American combatant.

The poem doesn’t prescribe to anything goes, it assumes you want a better life and to improve the country in return. Not sneak in to get benefits and vote without being an actual citizen or become a radical religious racist.
 

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In grade school in the 60's, I heard "all men are created equal"
I asked: What about women?
I'll let some you reflect some of your memories from that time in your life.
It happened and you know it.
Maybe it wasn't you who spoke but one of your classmates did.
When you heard it, didn't that make you flinch a little.
 
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That's from a poem on the base of the Statue of Liberty. It was written by a liberal progressive woman. Not a founding father, has no standing in law. It's a nice pity poem for liberals, by liberals. Try googling the phrase "When the Saxon began to hate." Written by Kipling. Trigger warning for snow flakes, SJW's, and all QWERTY keyboard sexuals.
Sounds like you may be a
That's from a poem on the base of the Statue of Liberty. It was written by a liberal progressive woman. Not a founding father, has no standing in law. It's a nice pity poem for liberals, by liberals. Try googling the phrase "When the Saxon began to hate." Written by Kipling. Trigger warning for snow flakes, SJW's, and all QWERTY keyboard sexuals.
Spoken like a true ditto head.
 

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I believe in legal immigration. I love the poem for the fact that to me at least it means that America represents a place of opportunity for all people. All kinds of rules apply to those people but if you’re willing to work hard anything is possible here. Nothing too controversial.

The indigenous republicans comment was speaking to the few above who seem to think the borders should have been closed once their families got here. Snarky for sure but we’re almost all descendants of immigrants here. Not sure why some look down on them. Even the poor ones. Doubt many people came here with a bunch of money. I know my family didn’t. But they worked hard and improved their circumstances. American dream and all that.

The borders should be closed as long as people break the rules.

People like you make me sick. You expect all of us to follow the law but like to pretend that it’s wrong to expect immigrants to follow the law. You can’t hide your ******** buddy.
 
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I believe in legal immigration. I love the poem for the fact that to me at least it means that America represents a place of opportunity for all people. All kinds of rules apply to those people but if you’re willing to work hard anything is possible here. Nothing too controversial.

The indigenous republicans comment was speaking to the few above who seem to think the borders should have been closed once their families got here. Snarky for sure but we’re almost all descendants of immigrants here. Not sure why some look down on them. Even the poor ones. Doubt many people came here with a bunch of money. I know my family didn’t. But they worked hard and improved their circumstances. American dream and all that.
This is absolutely not true. Nobody is looking down on legal immigrates. Why do you say that?