Glass half full

[bigbluewildcat84]

UK is 2-3 after the lose to #1 Alabama Saturday. Everyone is moaning about how bad UK is. I really think the upcoming 3 game stretch Vandy, Miss State and Mizzu will be a defining point for this season.

Uk has seemed to grow the last few games. During our first three games we where unable to hold either team under 40 points. Saturday we held the #1 team in the country to 34 points. UK has showed improvement in the pass rush leading to 2 sacks. The down side here is the depth of our DL. As time progressed our guys got tired and the pass rush tapered off.
I fully expect our defense to be stouter against Vandy, Miss St and Mizzu.

 

[docholiday51]

A good case can be made for the glass being half full.We just can't be sure how big the glass might be.The last 2 games have been better than the first 3,I still can't get the Sou Miss 2nd half meltdown out of my mind,hopefully we have gotten beyond that.

If we play with the kind effort we have seen in the past two games we will win the Vandy game and give ourselves a chance to win the other two. Our margin for error seems to be razor thin with this team
The coaches have figured out that Elam can only play spot minutes,Love has looked better in the last 2 games and I hope Johnson continues to make progress.Maybe the return of Kg. Daniels will give us a lift on defense

 

[bigbluewildcat84]

Getting someone who can put pressure up the middle on the defensive line has been huge for us. Elam isn't athletic enough to get a push off the line then shed the blocker to get the tackle.

 

[bigbluewildcat84]

If Stephen Johnson can get his TO under control will he give us a better chance at winning than Barker?

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, man. But the glass is NOT half full. There isn't even a glass present. Only pieces of shattered glass randomly and aimlessly scattered in and around the puddle lying on the ground which is slowly but surely evaporating into nothingness.

 

[docholiday51]

If Stephen Johnson can get his TO under control will he give us a better chance at winning than Barker?

Yes he does,Barker has never been or will he ever be the answer to our issue at QB.Johnson is a band-aid in place till a better fix gets here or gets ready. Hoak may or may not be that fix,I hope we can keep the red shirt on till next year

 

[Bluetick2100]

If Stephen Johnson can get his TO under control will he give us a better chance at winning than Barker?

If the O-linemen can their blocking under control Johnson will dramatically improve his TO's.

 

[docholiday51]

If the O-linemen can their blocking under control Johnson will dramatically improve his TO's.

Yeah,ya know that bunch from Alabama was pretty good,I'm not sure if anyone noticed that or not:sunglasses: they may make a little noise on the national scene as the year goes on.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, man. But the glass is NOT half full. There isn't even a glass present. Only pieces of shattered glass randomly and aimlessly scattered in and around the puddle lying on the ground which is slowly but surely evaporating into nothingness.

Do not crush my Red Solo Cup.

 

[kyjohn]

If the O-linemen can their blocking under control Johnson will dramatically improve his TO's.

That's a mighty big if.Vandy is not NMSU or Southern Miss and will challenge UK because they believe they can win this game.

 

[Hjack]

That's a mighty big if.Vandy is not NMSU or Southern Miss and will challenge UK because they believe they can win this game.

Could not agree more! With the probable exception of Austin Peay, I worry about another win. Thought Vandy looked pretty good against USC, and Missouri there is going to be tough. Miss. St. seems to own us. Don't see much hope with Georgia, and won't even comment on UT or UL.

I can realistically see us going 3-9. And I hate it!

 

[allabouttheUK]

This board will be unbearable IF they manage to win the next three games...can you imagine how pissed off people would be with 4 SEC wins and a bowl....guess people would need to start some new and original rumors about the Coaching staff.

 

[willyclyde]

Should be 3-2. Unfortunately, this season will always be the "southern miss collapse" year.

 

[docholiday51]

This board will be unbearable IF they manage to win the next three games...can you imagine how pissed off people would be with 4 SEC wins and a bowl....guess people would need to start some new and original rumors about the Coaching staff.

That probably won't happen but if it does there will be plenty of pissed off posters here

 

[vhcat70]

If the O-linemen can their blocking under control Johnson will dramatically improve his TO's.

You can attribute INT's in part to pass rush. But fumbles are on him - lack of awareness & strength. He needs to recognize these. I think he'll learn or has now had it happen enough already to have learned.

 

[docholiday51]

That's a mighty big if.Vandy is not NMSU or Southern Miss and will challenge UK because they believe they can win this game.

They aren't Alabama either

 

[UKWildcats#8]

That probably won't happen but if it does there will be plenty of pissed off posters here

BS. People will be excited if we win 4 SEC games and make a bowl. The reason people are so down is because so far they have seen nothing from Stoops' below average coaching ability to make us think he can do so. Losing to Southern Miss at home in year 4, losing to an awful Vandy last year in a must win to get to 6 wins, etc, have soured our fanbase on him (rightfully so).

 

[jnewc2_rivals30628]

The glass might be half full, but it's not filled with something I want to be drinking. Mitch will have to force feed it to me if he expects me to enjoy this cocktail of moral victories

One of the sadder moments was watching one of our incoming freshman bball players root for Louisville on twitter Saturday night..if that's not a slap in the face I don't know what is..good times

 

[docholiday51]

BS. People will be excited if we win 4 SEC games and make a bowl. The reason people are so down is because so far they have seen nothing from Stoops' below average coaching ability to make us think he can do so. Losing to Southern Miss at home in year 4, losing to an awful Vandy last year in a must win to get to 6 wins, etc, have soured our fanbase on him (rightfully so).

As I said it probably won't happen and you cite the two games that so far define the Stoops era,but there are many here that seem to prefer losses over wins in order to force the issue.

 

[allabouttheUK]

Lol no this board will be unbearable with "I told you how great Stoops is" talk and people saying Stoops is the guy if we beat Vandy. Everyone here wants this team to suceed. Some of us want to be great, not just mediocre forever. If you want to make fun of people for not being happy with a 2-3 record with a loss to the CUSA then that makes you the loser who accepts medicracy. This team isnt winning the next 3 games. You can go ahead and stop that talk. This team isnt winning 6 games either, as much as I would love to see it. I like the people with confidence because we ONLY lost by 4 TDs to a team who beat WKU by 4 TDs also. Its a case of a medicocre/pretty bad team playing their hearts out against #1. Which ill give the players credit for that. Some people man, noone is cheering against this team. People are just RIGHTFULLY doubtful about this team ans Stoops and if you dont see why, I am sorry.

You post a lot, but I don't guess you read much, huh? I didn't say they would win 6, I said IF they were to win the next 3 and be sitting at 5 with Austin Pea to come, then people here would flip the hell out and not in a good way....you know I'm right too.

We gonna do the comparisons against common opponents as "evidence"? I mean you do realize that doesn't hold water, right? I'll play along though just to appease the angry rumor jumpers.

UK beat South Carolina, South Carolina beat Vandy @ Vandy. That same South Carolina team, you know the "horrible" one, lost by 11 @ home to the second best team in the conference.

Call me what you want, doesn't matter to me. I want sustained success, not a good to years and back to the basement. I believe it takes time to build a program from the ground up...notice I didn't say rebuild, can't rebuild what was never started. Also notice I have not mentioned a coaches name one time, because this would apply to any coach at UK unless they were an absolute disaster (JOKER).

I get the anger, I just think some people go a little overboard and lose perspective.

 

[allabouttheUK]

That's a mighty big if.Vandy is not NMSU or Southern Miss and will challenge UK because they believe they can win this game.

Vandy isn't South Carolina either.

 

[TTU/UK fan]

You post a lot, but I don't guess you read much, huh? I didn't say they would win 6, I said IF they were to win the next 3 and be sitting at 5 with Austin Pea to come, then people here would flip the hell out and not in a good way....you know I'm right too.

We gonna do the comparisons against common opponents as "evidence"? I mean you do realize that doesn't hold water, right? I'll play along though just to appease the angry rumor jumpers.

UK beat South Carolina, South Carolina beat Vandy @ Vandy. That same South Carolina team, you know the "horrible" one, lost by 11 @ home to the second best team in the conference.

Call me what you want, doesn't matter to me. I want sustained success, not a good to years and back to the basement. I believe it takes time to build a program from the ground up...notice I didn't say rebuild, can't rebuild what was never started. Also notice I have not mentioned a coaches name one time, because this would apply to any coach at UK unless they were an absolute disaster (JOKER).

I get the anger, I just think some people go a little overboard and lose perspective.

The very beginning of that post was the only part directed towards you.

And I know you cant use comparisons but people used our score vs Bama and USCjr to make a case vs Vandy. So I thought I would compare scores too. And A&M isnt the #9 team but yes they prbly are #2 in this fairly sad SEC this year.

I agree it takes tome to build a program up but it doesnt take 4 years to be better than the CUSA and we havent seen any real progress since year 2. Stoops isnt the guy, I wish he would prove me wrong, but I dont see it. I think next year with all of the JRs and SRs we have will be perfect for a new coach, we should have a decent year and a coach in their first year with 6 or 7 wins would be an amazing pitch for recruits. JMHO.

 

[bigbluewildcat84]

Vandy and Miss State are winnable. Mizzu will be harder with a slim chance at UGA.

 

[megablue]

Cautious pre-season optimism makes folks see a half-full glass, hoping for more. As the season wears on and realism sets in, the glass begins to appear empty, unfortunately.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

BS. People will be excited if we win 4 SEC games and make a bowl. The reason people are so down is because so far they have seen nothing from Stoops' below average coaching ability to make us think he can do so. Losing to Southern Miss at home in year 4, losing to an awful Vandy last year in a must win to get to 6 wins, etc, have soured our fanbase on him (rightfully so).

Yes, the staff has given us reason to doubt them. However, I disagree that four SEC wins will matter to some. Instead of being happy about the wins, they will say, "Well, those teams are terrible." (See the SC comments after beating them.) They'll also say something like, "Yeah, we won four SEC games against a really down SEC East and we lost to USM. Congrats on being happy about going to a lower level bowl."

You know it's true. haha

 

[bigbluewildcat84]

A win is a win. I'll take it even if its against a cup cake like Austin P. There is progress being made right now. Hardly anyone wants to acknowledge that. Leave your negativity for the end of the year. Support the team even if you don't support the Staff and AD.

 

[megablue]

Yes, the staff has given us reason to doubt them. However, I disagree that four SEC wins will matter to some. Instead of being happy about the wins, they will say, "Well, those teams are terrible." (See the SC comments after beating them.) They'll also say something like, "Yeah, we won four SEC games against a really down SEC East and we lost to USM. Congrats on being happy about going to a lower level bowl."

You know it's true. haha

I think most people will be satisfied (not extremely, however) with six (6) wins and a trip to a bowl. That would be four (4) SEC wins, which is very rare in the history of Kentucky football. I think winning four (4) conference games is a pretty good accomplishment, even with the weaker SEC East.

 

[carolinacat]

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, man. But the glass is NOT half full. There isn't even a glass present. Only pieces of shattered glass randomly and aimlessly scattered in and around the puddle lying on the ground which is slowly but surely evaporating into nothingness.

Spoken like a true UofL Troll.

 

[allabouttheUK]

The very beginning of that post was the only part directed towards you.

And I know you cant use comparisons but people used our score vs Bama and USCjr to make a case vs Vandy. So I thought I would compare scores too. And A&M isnt the #9 team but yes they prbly are #2 in this fairly sad SEC this year.

I agree it takes tome to build a program up but it doesnt take 4 years to be better than the CUSA and we havent seen any real progress since year 2. Stoops isnt the guy, I wish he would prove me wrong, but I dont see it. I think next year with all of the JRs and SRs we have will be perfect for a new coach, we should have a decent year and a coach in their first year with 6 or 7 wins would be an amazing pitch for recruits. JMHO.

Look around the SEC this year and the country every year...there are ALWAYS teams loosing to teams they shouldn't. Most of the time, the bigger school is a more well established football program, and everybody goes "wow!". That is why I don't get the continued obsession with the loss to Southern Miss. It's done with, it's over, we lost, can't change it, move on.

I mean the argument could be made that the season to this point has been worse for the fan base than it has the team. People starting pathetic rumors about the coach, calling the radio show and saying some of the things they have, and these are the same people that ***** about recruiting...it's disgusting and pathetic.

I'm not saying Stoops is the guy, or isn't the guy. All I'm saying is let the damn season play out and then get vocal if need be. There is ZERO advantage to the high school female ******** that has gone on this season with the fan-base.

On paper next year looks to be more positive when just looking at the roster, but then you look at the schedule and it offsets the roster. UK football like many years before can't seem to catch a break. Take next years roster and give it this years schedule and things look freakin amazing! It's always going to be an uphill battle to get where we ALL want it to be, and there will be times when you take a step back in order to take two forward.

Progress isn't just measured in W-L it's also measured in how prepared they are, as well as how the roster is built. Not every kid that's highly rated is going to play up to that rating (ELAM). It happens on every team, then you have a lower rated guy (Cobb) play well above their rating. It happens on every roster. Point being, we all want recruiting to be better and want the stars, but they aren't a sure bet either.

There needs to be some clarity, and a real understanding of where UK football has been, where it is now, and where it's slowly going.

I don't think anyone can honestly argue that after the horrendous first 10 quarters of the season that the team has not turned things around.

 

[DelkBowl]

Glass half full, stadium half empty

 

[sefus12]

Look around the SEC this year and the country every year...there are ALWAYS teams loosing to teams they shouldn't. Most of the time, the bigger school is a more well established football program, and everybody goes "wow!". That is why I don't get the continued obsession with the loss to Southern Miss. It's done with, it's over, we lost, can't change it, move on.

I mean the argument could be made that the season to this point has been worse for the fan base than it has the team. People starting pathetic rumors about the coach, calling the radio show and saying some of the things they have, and these are the same people that ***** about recruiting...it's disgusting and pathetic.

I'm not saying Stoops is the guy, or isn't the guy. All I'm saying is let the damn season play out and then get vocal if need be. There is ZERO advantage to the high school female ******** that has gone on this season with the fan-base.

On paper next year looks to be more positive when just looking at the roster, but then you look at the schedule and it offsets the roster. UK football like many years before can't seem to catch a break. Take next years roster and give it this years schedule and things look freakin amazing! It's always going to be an uphill battle to get where we ALL want it to be, and there will be times when you take a step back in order to take two forward.

Progress isn't just measured in W-L it's also measured in how prepared they are, as well as how the roster is built. Not every kid that's highly rated is going to play up to that rating (ELAM). It happens on every team, then you have a lower rated guy (Cobb) play well above their rating. It happens on every roster. Point being, we all want recruiting to be better and want the stars, but they aren't a sure bet either.

There needs to be some clarity, and a real understanding of where UK football has been, where it is now, and where it's slowly going.

I don't think anyone can honestly argue that after the horrendous first 10 quarters of the season that the team has not turned things around.

Fantastic post, but unfortunately many on here will simply scoff at your (true) thoughts and use it as a reason to ***** about MB/Stoops.

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

Spoken like a true UofL Troll.

Nope. Spoken like a realist. Been a UK football fan for 40+ years. Been here before, seen this before. Many times. Had my hopes up many times. Learned over the years to temper my enthusiasm.

But go on...you go ahead and drink that half full glass of blue kool-aide. Given time, you too shall learn.

 

[carolinacat]

Nope. Spoken like a realist. Been a UK football fan for 40+ years. Been here before, seen this before. Many times. Had my hopes up many times. Learned over the years to temper my enthusiasm.

But go on...you go ahead and drink that half full glass of blue kool-aide. Given time, you too shall learn.

Were you part of the Ditch Rich crowd after the debacle at LSU in 2006....just before they turned it around? I'm more than aware of the UK tradition or lack thereof. It's just that I see enough positives that make me choose the optimistic viewpoint. But please feel free to wallow in negativity if that floats your boat.

 

[willievic]

Could not agree more! With the probable exception of Austin Peay, I worry about another win. Thought Vandy looked pretty good against USC, and Missouri there is going to be tough. Miss. St. seems to own us. Don't see much hope with Georgia, and won't even comment on UT or UL.

I can realistically see us going 3-9. And I hate it!

Hjack, if so,adios, Stoops.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[willievic]

Look around the SEC this year and the country every year...there are ALWAYS teams loosing to teams they shouldn't. Most of the time, the bigger school is a more well established football program, and everybody goes "wow!". That is why I don't get the continued obsession with the loss to Southern Miss. It's done with, it's over, we lost, can't change it, move on.

I mean the argument could be made that the season to this point has been worse for the fan base than it has the team. People starting pathetic rumors about the coach, calling the radio show and saying some of the things they have, and these are the same people that ***** about recruiting...it's disgusting and pathetic.

I'm not saying Stoops is the guy, or isn't the guy. All I'm saying is let the damn season play out and then get vocal if need be. There is ZERO advantage to the high school female ******** that has gone on this season with the fan-base.

On paper next year looks to be more positive when just looking at the roster, but then you look at the schedule and it offsets the roster. UK football like many years before can't seem to catch a break. Take next years roster and give it this years schedule and things look freakin amazing! It's always going to be an uphill battle to get where we ALL want it to be, and there will be times when you take a step back in order to take two forward.

Progress isn't just measured in W-L it's also measured in how prepared they are, as well as how the roster is built. Not every kid that's highly rated is going to play up to that rating (ELAM). It happens on every team, then you have a lower rated guy (Cobb) play well above their rating. It happens on every roster. Point being, we all want recruiting to be better and want the stars, but they aren't a sure bet either.

There needs to be some clarity, and a real understanding of where UK football has been, where it is now, and where it's slowly going.

I don't think anyone can honestly argue that after the horrendous first 10 quarters of the season that the team has not turned things around.

If progress isn't measured in W's and L's, then I'm in favor of not keeping the score. Your right about where it's SLOWLY going. Were all hoping, but at this juncture, no one really knows. The next three games will tell a lot.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[51stFan]

That probably won't happen but if it does there will be plenty of pissed off posters here

I won't be disappointed if we win against Vandy, Miss. St. and Missouri and are at least competitive in two of the three other ones. More concerning to me the last few years has been the epic collapse at the end of those years. Not competitive against UT, UGA, Bama, Florida, and UofL would be concerning in the fourth year of a staff.

 

[JC CATS]

This board will be unbearable IF they manage to win the next three games...can you imagine how pissed off people would be with 4 SEC wins and a bowl....guess people would need to start some new and original rumors about the Coaching staff.

Is this some sort of joke? If so it's not funny. Are you insinuating that UK fans want UK to fail? Why? smdh

 

[buckkiller]

Ill go with glass half full due to talent like Jones, Ware, Baity, Westry, Boom, Snell, Conrad, Young, Brown , kash just to name few. Most of those players could play for 70-80% of most D-1 schools of not all of them.

The empty part of glass for me is Stoops and Mitch. Plus I would say D line Issues and pass protection Issues.

 

[allabouttheUK]

Is this some sort of joke? If so it's not funny. Are you insinuating that UK fans want UK to fail? Why? smdh

Go back and read from the Southern Miss game up until the rumor was exposed for what it was....then get back to me.

 

[allabouttheUK]

If progress isn't measured in W's and L's, then I'm in favor of not keeping the score. Your right about where it's SLOWLY going. Were all hoping, but at this juncture, no one really knows. The next three games will tell a lot.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

ISN'T JUST MEASURED big difference between that and ISN'T MEASURED. Come on man.