Going to a Bowl .... but

[kypecos]

All four wins have been against teams with losing records and the next two wins will come against awful AP and Missouri, who also have losing records. But that's the six wins that we need to go bowling. It's exciting but trying to remain objective since there are no marquee wins yet. Are we really better or is everyone else just worse?
There is opportunity to make a statement regarding the perception or reality of improvement b/c 3/5 remaining games are against teams with winning records -- Georgia being possible but huge underdogs to Tenn and UofL. Win one or more of those three games and we can legitimately claim improvement. Lose all three and still going bowling but need to grab one of these opportunities to justify a change in perception. Not sure that six wins against bad teams gets us there by itself. But have a week to enjoy things until the Missouri win (please don't take them too lightly and screw things up).

 

[louisvillesux]

we have been a bad team, now we are beating the bad teams we play. thats a step in the right direction. like you said, lets not screw up againat mizzou

 

[morgousky]

Fools. Gold.

But I have no gold. I'll take it fools or not.

 

[SaturnCat33_rivals31681]

This team has 3 SEC wins. Let's STFU and cheer them on. Just stole 1.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Posted this in another thread:
Yeah, but we usually lose to awful teams. MSUoutsideof Prescott years is usually pretty bad, that's why they are our yearly cross conference game. Same for people complaining about the USC and Vandy games...we usually lose those games to that level, as the SEC east has been pretty bad for awhile. UT has been bad except the past yr or so, this is the best Florida has been in awhile. I mean Missouri..MISSOURI won the east 2 years in a row. The SEC east has been rotating about one good team a year. While we aren't world beaters by any means, we are winning games we usually dont. How many times has UK had a winning league record in your lifetime? I mean like I said, these teams aren't great by any means...but we still usually those too. Nothing to be satisfied about..but also steps in winning games your supposed to.

Some people don't want to be happy, get hell bent on an arbitrary year 4, when your dealing with a school with no tradition whatsoever. It's one thing to say, your UT and you need to be winning at big games in year 4 bc you already have tradition, stocks of depth, kids play there just bc it's UT, but your building from nothing at UK. That's not sunshine pumping it's living in reality that it takes awhile to build a program from nothing, where kids had no reason to come here, you have no depth, zero history. They are slowly getting better. And they are basically doing it with a 3rd string quarterback and no seniors. Nothing to be content with, bit not a reason to force your past misery of years on this era. I've noticed for the most part people that are negative are ones who really don't know what's going on, are card collectors, never played, or don't realize how bad they were his first few years playing people on defense out of position out of neccessity. It will keep building and get there eventually. They are only behind one game where they should be.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

I got news for you OP we gonna beat Jawga too!

 

[Poetax]

All four wins have been against teams with losing records and the next two wins will come against awful AP and Missouri, who also have losing records. But that's the six wins that we need to go bowling. It's exciting but trying to remain objective since there are no marquee wins yet. Are we really better or is everyone else just worse?
There is opportunity to make a statement regarding the perception or reality of improvement b/c 3/5 remaining games are against teams with winning records -- Georgia being possible but huge underdogs to Tenn and UofL. Win one or more of those three games and we can legitimately claim improvement. Lose all three and still going bowling but need to grab one of these opportunities to justify a change in perception. Not sure that six wins against bad teams gets us there by itself. But have a week to enjoy things until the Missouri win (please don't take them too lightly and screw things up).

Do you realize that over the years this happens to dozens of teams and they don't apology for it so why do you think we have to? If we get to 6 wins we deserve a bowl, period, no matter what some think on here.

 

[Xception]

I don't understand why we can't go from bowless to title contenders , it's like a Rubik's cube

 

[morgousky]

Posted this in another thread:
Yeah, but we usually lose to awful teams. MSUoutsideof Prescott years is usually pretty bad, that's why they are our yearly cross conference game. Same for people complaining about the USC and Vandy games...we usually lose those games to that level, as the SEC east has been pretty bad for awhile. UT has been bad except the past yr or so, this is the best Florida has been in awhile. I mean Missouri..MISSOURI won the east 2 years in a row. The SEC east has been rotating about one good team a year. While we aren't world beaters by any means, we are winning games we usually dont. How many times has UK had a winning league record in your lifetime? I mean like I said, these teams aren't great by any means...but we still usually those too. Nothing to be satisfied about..but also steps in winning games your supposed to.

Some people don't want to be happy, get hell bent on an arbitrary year 4, when your dealing with a school with no tradition whatsoever. It's one thing to say, your UT and you need to be winning at big games in year 4 bc you already have tradition, stocks of depth, kids play there just bc it's UT, but your building from nothing at UK. That's not sunshine pumping it's living in reality that it takes awhile to build a program from nothing, where kids had no reason to come here, you have no depth, zero history. They are slowly getting better. And they are basically doing it with a 3rd string quarterback and no seniors. Nothing to be content with, bit not a reason to force your past misery of years on this era. I've noticed for the most part people that are negative are ones who really don't know what's going on, are card collectors, never played, or don't realize how bad they were his first few years playing people on defense out of position out of neccessity. It will keep building and get there eventually. They are only behind one game where they should be.

Again, Uk has never had the recourses and most people dont realize Uk has more at its disposal today than it has ever had. Uk has the cash to pay whoever whatever, so people can spare me on the"we've never been there before" speech. USC had never been there before, and they went all in on the opportunity. UK has yet to have an administration that was willing to do that. And the fans, largely, don't realize how rich we are today thanks to SEC/NIKE/ESPN deals. Not to mention the enormous SEC pie revenue we bring in.

Uk has a choice to make. The fans can demand SEC excellence that we have at our fingertips, or we can play the game like it's 1985. So far, the fans don't get it, and the UK administration loves that.

I will never accept 6 win seasons, or continuous 7 win season while Uk makes millions while sitting on their ***. We can be a contender for the east half the time if we want it. In state recruiting posters show the ignorance of not understanding revenue and the ability to recruit nationally today. Again, this isn't 1985. Some of our fans, maybe half of them, don't fully get it.

I played, high school and college, so the post can spare me the " they didnt play" BS. I also coach D1 high school athletes today in Tennessee. Recruits aren't interested in UK because UK isn't interested in greatness. They know we are content with being a doormat and propping up 6 wins like it's the second coming of Christ.

We've got a lot to fix if we want to be what we're capable of.

Look, I'll take what we did today. But it's not a measuring stick of where we should be. We should except way more. But a win is a win, and I'll personally continue to monitor the situation. No one, not one UK fan, should be happy with this product though. We are scraping by, barely, at home, with the weakest schedule in decades. And really, we're not even scraping by in all reality.

So, whatever.

 

[brianpoe]

It is year 4.

People expected us to come out of the gate better than we did and improve throughout the season. We didnt, we are now where many hoped we would be 6 games ago.

Had we met some fan's expectations, not the over blown @Xception's take, we would:

Only have 1 more win...

but would be in better control of our destiny...

wouldn't be sweating Missouri...

looking forward to beating a very down UGA...

looking forward to competing with a depleted UT.



It is really not that hard to understand. If the defense and the oline was squared away just close to what we have now on game one there would be much less apprehension.

Many people see how bad the SEC East has been this year and the couple season's prior and are saddened we haven't taken full advantage. Still lots of football left this year, let's see how we finish.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

Edgar Allen after we beat Mizzou and Georgia the complainers will be silent.

 

[morgousky]

It is year 4.

People expected us to come out of the gate better than we did and improve throughout the season. We didnt, we are now where many hoped we would be 6 games ago.

Had we met some fan's expectations, not the over blown @Xception's take, we would:

Only have 1 more win...

but would be in better control of our destiny...

wouldn't be sweating Missouri...

looking forward to beating a very down UGA...

looking forward to competing with a depleted UT.



It is really not that hard to understand. If the defense and the oline was squared away just close to what we have now on game one there would be much less apprehension.

Many people see how bad the SEC East has been this year and the couple season's prior and are saddened we haven't taken full advantage. Still lots of football left this year, let's see how we finish.

If the SEC was what it will be and has been, we would be DOA.

And the SEC won't stay this way for long, so whats the end game?

Stoops gets to 6, maybe win 6 or 7 next year, and stays?

We could be looking at a disastrous result over the next decade, sue to his 4th and 5th year being a down conference stretch.

Some people don't like it, and like citing out history, while ignoring the elephant in the room. Millions, million upon million in revenue like we've never seen before. No wonder they want this little fact to go unnoticed.

I ignore posters who cite that BS. They are ignorant to the current climate of college football.

I hope Stoops is good for building and producing a shot at an SEC title, something I've wanted for over 20 years and most of my life. But I just can't see it. I see a mediocre coach who would never be able to produce to what our standard should be.

And I don't give a damn about a sunshine pumper or ignorant "look at the past" fan that doesn't see it.

UK can be great. We just need a different approach.

 

[brianpoe]

Edgar Allen after we beat Mizzou and Georgia the complainers will be silent.

We beat both those teams they should be.

 

[kykats]

Morgousky. I is so glad yous spoked yure mind!! It's obvieus that yous coud haf said All yous knows in just oned er too werds but yous wanted all usens to compleetly understan yer posicion on why weuns fans shoud never go to a game tils we wins the nashional champeenship. Agin. I fer one thanks yous.

 

[morgousky]

We beat both those teams they should be.

For a year? Sure.

But they won't stay doormats for long. They will improve and become unbeatable for UK.

UK will be content to stay where they are.

This is the problem. I don't care about beating Georgia once every 10 years when they are down, I care about competing with them for the SEC east on a regular basis.

It's just depends on what you (fans) want out of this program.

 

[morgousky]

Morgousky. I is so glad yous spoked yure mind!! It's obvieus that yous coud haf said All yous knows in just oned er too werds but yous wanted all usens to compleetly understan yer posicion on why weuns fans shoud never go to a game tils we wins the nashional champeenship. Agin. I fer one thanks yous.

You'll have to come again. I couldn't get it.

 

[brianpoe]

For a year? Sure.

But they won't stay doormats for long. They will improve and become unbeatable for UK.

UK will be content to stay where they are.

This is the problem. I don't care about beating Georgia once every 10 years when they are down, I care about competing with them for the SEC east on a regular basis.

It's just depends on what you (fans) want out of this program.

I am referring to this year.

We only win 6 next year it wont be a good sign, regardless of schedule.

 

[morgousky]

The Liquor will wear off by tomorrow.

 

[jauk11]

Morgousky. I is so glad yous spoked yure mind!! It's obvieus that yous coud haf said All yous knows in just oned er too werds but yous wanted all usens to compleetly understan yer posicion on why weuns fans shoud never go to a game tils we wins the nashional champeenship. Agin. I fer one thanks yous.

I noticed you misspelled a couple of words and assumed you were being funny,and I enjoyed it, but then I noticed you misspelled your own name so now I am worried about you.lol

 

[morgousky]

Wait, ok never mind.

 

[morgousky]

Kentucky people, from a guy from tennessee, raised by war veterans from Kentucky, my absolute thanks to all who have served and from the blue
Land. Thank you for allowing me to be blue. I'll be banned by tomorrow.

You have my absolute servitude. Blue till I DIE.

Peace.

 

[kykats]

Morgousy. The mor I reeds yuer comences the mors I started likin yous. I just thanks stoopz dizerves us lettin hiz coatchin reech all hiz playerz. Thay aire doin much better laitly. Stoopz maybe to.

 

[Jamal Mercer]

All four wins have been against teams with losing records and the next two wins will come against awful AP and Missouri, who also have losing records. But that's the six wins that we need to go bowling. It's exciting but trying to remain objective since there are no marquee wins yet. Are we really better or is everyone else just worse?
There is opportunity to make a statement regarding the perception or reality of improvement b/c 3/5 remaining games are against teams with winning records -- Georgia being possible but huge underdogs to Tenn and UofL. Win one or more of those three games and we can legitimately claim improvement. Lose all three and still going bowling but need to grab one of these opportunities to justify a change in perception. Not sure that six wins against bad teams gets us there by itself. But have a week to enjoy things until the Missouri win (please don't take them too lightly and screw things up).

 

[Jamal Mercer]

You're assuming a Missouri win at Mizzou? As a Kentucky fan that is insane.

We are playing better but 6 wins is not set in stone.

 

[SaturnCat33_rivals31681]

I'm seeing progress. The jury is still out on Stoops. The stupid 2 pt attempt almost effed us. And SJ still doesn't understand to put 2 hands on the ball. Yet, still, we FINALLY beat Dan Vader (and his silly gloves). We can beat Mizzery. If we do, we go bowling. We can beat UGA, and GrumpyOldDawg will hate it. We have sucked, but GD, we have been resilient. I am fine with Johnson, so long as he holds onto the ball. We are this close. Fools gold or not, let's get behind them. This game was lost, and all of you know it. Yet, they won. They have earned our respect.

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

James Franklin parlayed beating teams with losing records into millions. Charlie Strong as well. We may be bad in reality, but wins sell the national perception. Perception sells recruits.

 

[reflaine]

Edgar Allen after we beat Mizzou and Georgia the complainers will be silent.

No they won't. There is 68395 post on how neither is any good. That's the only way the can somehow in their mind keep a glimmer of them being right in their own eyes. If we lose it will be fire him again, can't lose to this team in year four blah blah blah. If we win it's they ain't no good and shouldn't really count, we haven't proved anything, blah blah blah


What I see is a football team getting better each week, and fighting their *** off. We are not the best power five school around and never will be, but getting better, winning toss up games (last two have been) and showing great effort is what I'm looking for. Rome wasn't built in one day. When stoops was hired everyone agreed you had to get to 6-8 wins sustained a year before you got to 8-10 wins a year. We are on that first round we hope. But to these K want ten wins in year four just want to gripe and complain about anything. (Rap music which is played at every stadium, no qb good enough, game management, and on and on). Damn Ohio state can't win every game they are supposed to win, (our usm loss is comparable to talent vs talent).

End of the day, the sun is coming up again this morning like it would if we had lost. If you didn't have fun with that game last night, esp if you was one of the great season ticket holders (who has been there every game btw and hats off to them for that) maybe sports isn't for you. Enjoy the win and let's play again next Saturday

 

[SaturnCat33_rivals31681]

Again, Uk has never had the recourses and most people dont realize Uk has more at its disposal today than it has ever had. Uk has the cash to pay whoever whatever, so people can spare me on the"we've never been there before" speech. USC had never been there before, and they went all in on the opportunity. UK has yet to have an administration that was willing to do that. And the fans, largely, don't realize how rich we are today thanks to SEC/NIKE/ESPN deals. Not to mention the enormous SEC pie revenue we bring in.

Uk has a choice to make. The fans can demand SEC excellence that we have at our fingertips, or we can play the game like it's 1985. So far, the fans don't get it, and the UK administration loves that.

I will never accept 6 win seasons, or continuous 7 win season while Uk makes millions while sitting on their ***. We can be a contender for the east half the time if we want it. In state recruiting posters show the ignorance of not understanding revenue and the ability to recruit nationally today. Again, this isn't 1985. Some of our fans, maybe half of them, don't fully get it.

I played, high school and college, so the post can spare me the " they didnt play" BS. I also coach D1 high school athletes today in Tennessee. Recruits aren't interested in UK because UK isn't interested in greatness. They know we are content with being a doormat and propping up 6 wins like it's the second coming of Christ.

We've got a lot to fix if we want to be what we're capable of.

Look, I'll take what we did today. But it's not a measuring stick of where we should be. We should except way more. But a win is a win, and I'll personally continue to monitor the situation. No one, not one UK fan, should be happy with this product though. We are scraping by, barely, at home, with the weakest schedule in decades. And really, we're not even scraping by in all reality.

So, whatever.

 

[VFO]

Again, Uk has never had the recourses and most people dont realize Uk has more at its disposal today than it has ever had. Uk has the cash to pay whoever whatever, so people can spare me on the"we've never been there before" speech. USC had never been there before, and they went all in on the opportunity. UK has yet to have an administration that was willing to do that. And the fans, largely, don't realize how rich we are today thanks to SEC/NIKE/ESPN deals. Not to mention the enormous SEC pie revenue we bring in.

Uk has a choice to make. The fans can demand SEC excellence that we have at our fingertips, or we can play the game like it's 1985. So far, the fans don't get it, and the UK administration loves that.

I will never accept 6 win seasons, or continuous 7 win season while Uk makes millions while sitting on their ***. We can be a contender for the east half the time if we want it. In state recruiting posters show the ignorance of not understanding revenue and the ability to recruit nationally today. Again, this isn't 1985. Some of our fans, maybe half of them, don't fully get it.

I played, high school and college, so the post can spare me the " they didnt play" BS. I also coach D1 high school athletes today in Tennessee. Recruits aren't interested in UK because UK isn't interested in greatness. They know we are content with being a doormat and propping up 6 wins like it's the second coming of Christ.

We've got a lot to fix if we want to be what we're capable of.

Look, I'll take what we did today. But it's not a measuring stick of where we should be. We should except way more. But a win is a win, and I'll personally continue to monitor the situation. No one, not one UK fan, should be happy with this product though. We are scraping by, barely, at home, with the weakest schedule in decades. And really, we're not even scraping by in all reality.

So, whatever.

You claim to be able to know what other fans, players and coaches want and desire when it comes to success in winning games. Because of that your post should not be considered credible at all. Before CMS the only players that would even consider KY were those being pursued by lesser conference teams. I do agree the SEC East is not as good as it has been in the past, but I also see this team has no quit in it now and will keep getting better. I also believe they will be very good over the course of the next few years. At some time UK must stay with a coach and allow him to develop a winning attitude and tradition of having the ability to win every game. They will not win every game but will have a shot at it. That is what should be expected not 10-12 win seasons every year. That is unrealistic. Fielding a fundamentally sound and competitive team should be the goal. If that happens UK will garner its share of wind. JMHO.
Go Cats!

 

[SaturnCat33_rivals31681]

Blah, blah, blah. You're a negative MF. You hate Barnhart, we get it. You know so many things, we get it. I know you bleed blue--have read plenty of your posts. But GD, Stoops and Co. finally beat those bastards. Give 'em some credit.

 

[KYCAT78]

Why do we have to rain on every parade. We won a game we would have lost in the past. We have 3 SEC wins which is more than we have had in a long time. We have a shot at 6 wins which gets us to a bowl and probably allows us to hang on to this years recruits. Getting to six wins is going to be a struggle and we could very well lose to everybody but AP, but, we have a chance. It looked like a disaster after the first 4 games and now we have hope. Enjoy the moment, despair may be coming but at least it is not this week.

 

[Johnfarrel]

A little early to be counting the Mizu win. It's doable but not a certainty.

 

[Anon1712931820]

First time we have reached 3 SEC wins since 2009. We have a chance to finish 4-4 for only the fourth time in almost 40 years. Beat UGA and it is the first winning record for U.K. Football in the SEC since 1977.

People can spin it however they want to try and discredit this team and show their hate for Stoops, but the fact is that after an abysmal first and second game these kids have rebounded and responded even after losing their starting QB.

 

[tntuk]

You're assuming a Missouri win at Mizzou? As a Kentucky fan that is insane.

We are playing better but 6 wins is not set in stone.

MTSU beat them at Mizzou.

 

[tntuk]

First time we have reached 3 SEC wins since 2009. We have a chance to finish 4-4 for only the fourth time in almost 40 years. Beat UGA and it is the first winning record for U.K. Football in the SEC since 1977.

People can spin it however they want to try and discredit this team and show their hate for Stoops, but the fact is that after an abysmal first and second game these kids have rebounded and responded even after losing their starting QB.

Well, right now we have as good of a shot at 5-3 as we do 4-4. If we can win next two, we will be 5-2 going in to the UT game.

 

[Anon1712931820]

Well, right now we have as good of a shot at 5-3 as we do 4-4. If we can win next two, we will be 5-2 going in to the UT game.

If we keep playing good ball and take out Mizzo and UGA then I like our chances with UT. They had unbelievable luck the first half of the year and were just as close to being 2-5 instead of 5-3.

 

[tntuk]

If we keep playing good ball and take out Mizzo and UGA then I like our chances with UT. They had unbelievable luck the first half of the year and were just as close to being 2-5 instead of 5-3.

Well...we're not 2-5, so let's deal with the reality of our 4-3 record (3-2 in SEC) and what we may be able to accomplish the next 3 weeks.

 

[Fresh Start]

If the SEC was what it will be and has been, we would be DOA.

And the SEC won't stay this way for long, so whats the end game?

Stoops gets to 6, maybe win 6 or 7 next year, and stays?

We could be looking at a disastrous result over the next decade, sue to his 4th and 5th year being a down conference stretch.

Some people don't like it, and like citing out history, while ignoring the elephant in the room. Millions, million upon million in revenue like we've never seen before. No wonder they want this little fact to go unnoticed.

I ignore posters who cite that BS. They are ignorant to the current climate of college football.

I hope Stoops is good for building and producing a shot at an SEC title, something I've wanted for over 20 years and most of my life. But I just can't see it. I see a mediocre coach who would never be able to produce to what our standard should be.

And I don't give a damn about a sunshine pumper or ignorant "look at the past" fan that doesn't see it.

UK can be great. We just need a different approach.

Fire Barnhart

 

[Stenchymouse]

The past 2 years, it looked like a certainty that we'd get to a bowl and we didn't!

Why ANYONE would count on winning at Missouri or beating Georgia at this point is beyond me!!

Should we get to a bowl this year??

Absolutely!!!

WILL we get that 6th win??

I'm starting to feel like its possible, but there's NO WAY I'll EXPECT it after the past 2 years!!!

 

[irishcat1965]

I have been very critical of Stoops but I swear some people aren't happy unless they are bitching. You can only beat the teams they put on your schedule. The bottomline is the Cats are 4-1 in the past five games and have a chance to get an SEC road win next week. I wanted Stoops gone as much as anyone but I'm not going to let that overshadow my enjoyment of UK victories.