Great article about OU keeping Bob Stoops in spite of the grumbling

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Here's the link...
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/column-sometimes-best-coach-coach-youve-got

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By PAUL NEWBERRY (AP)
December 25, 2015
9:45 AM EST

Look at Oklahoma: Sometimes the Best Coach is the Coach You've Got

Sometimes, the best coach is the one you've already got.

Take Oklahoma.

The Sooners wisely stuck with Bob Stoops, even when many in this what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world questioned whether he was the guy to lead them back to the promised land.

Well, look where the Sooners are now.

Two victories away from a national championship.

It's a lesson other schools would do well to heed.

Hey, Nebraska, any regrets about firing Frank Solich? Hey, Tennessee, think y'all were a little too eager to dump Phillip Fulmer?

And, in the latest example of expectations run amok, Georgia handed Mark Richt a pink slip after he won nearly 75 percent of his games over a 15-year career.

Oklahoma is having no regrets about sticking with the coach who led them to a national title in 2000 and eight conference titles since then, even when he had the occasional stumble such as last year's 8-5 season that ended with a blowout loss to Clemson in the Russell Athletic Bowl.

Though Stoops, for all his success, certainly knew nothing was guaranteed.

In many ways, this was a crucial season for him.

He came through.

Big time.

"In a coach's life, you're pushing from one year to the next," Stoops said. "You never look too far down the road."

That's fine for a coach.

But school administrators should spend most of their time focusing on the long-term direction of a program, not the fanatical whims of those especially noisy boosters who always think there's someone else who can do a better job.

Expectations are one thing.

Reality is another.

When Tom Osborne retired at Nebraska, the Cornhusker faithful assumed the school would just go on winning national championships every year under Solich, apparently forgetting that it took Osborne 21 years to finish No. 1.

Even though Solich went 58-19 over six years, including one Big 12 title and an admittedly fluky appearance in a national championship game, he was fired after the 2003 season. There were some flaws in his record, to be sure, including a 1-9 road mark against ranked teams and that single title, which fell far short of the standard Osborne set — 13 conference championships in a 25-year career.

But look what's happened since then.

Nebraska hasn't come close to matching its success under Solich, much less Osborne. The Cornhuskers have lost at least four games each of the last 12 years, including a 5-7 mark this season under Mike Riley, the third coach given the task of restoring Big Red to its former glory. Bill Callahan and Bo Pelini already washed out.

Tennessee had similar visions of grandeur when it sent Fulmer packing after the 2008 season. Vols' administrators decided that two losing seasons in four years overshadowed all the good work he had done — a 152-52 record in 17 years, including a national title, two Southeastern Conference championships and six SEC East crowns.

The Volunteers are still trying to recover from that foolhardy decision. They're on their third coach since Fulmer, having posted a record of 43-44 in the past seven seasons under Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and now, Butch Jones.

Only this season, finishing with an 8-4 record (its best since the Fulmer era) and earning a spot in the Outback Bowl, did Tennessee finally show signs of returning to its former glory.

For the most part, this one-time powerhouse has been a laughingstock.

Which brings us back to Stoops.

There was plenty of grumbling after that mediocre 2014 season, and it only intensified when the Sooners lost to rival Texas early this year.

They haven't lost since, earning a spot in the College Football Playoff and a rematch against top-ranked Clemson in the Orange Bowl on New Year's Eve.

"Sometimes success is your greatest enemy, and the success that he had and has had over a continued period of time there, you know, the expectations are incredibly high at Oklahoma," said Todd Blackledge, an analyst for ESPN. "I don't think they've fallen off or been that far away over the last few years, but this has to be a sweet season for him."

Though not without some tough, painful decisions.

This past offseason, he fired offensive coordinator Josh Heupel, who was the quarterback on his national championship team. It was the first time Stoops had ever dismissed one of his coordinators, but it was the right move. The Sooners, led by new coordinator Lincoln Riley and first-year quarterback Baker Mayfield, rank third in the nation at 45.8 points per game.

"The world is constantly changing in everybody's professions," Stoops said. But, he quickly added, "The principles and the big parts of it, I don't think have changed. Relationships with young guys and young players still matter and are still the same. Young people are still the same. The game constantly evolves. As much as things change, there's still a lot that still operates the same way."

Change is inevitable.

But sometimes, it's best to stick with the coach you've got.
 
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I read that last night. I'm glad you posted it. I was reluctant to for a few reasons. I thought it was interesting they didn't include the Longhorns in the article.
 
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I read that last night. I'm glad you posted it. I was reluctant to for a few reasons. I thought it was interesting they didn't include the Longhorns in the article.

He only included relevant programs. ;)

I'm not worried about posting great articles. I included the author's name in case anybody has a beef with what he is saying. They can shoot him an email.
 
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It is a great article. I especially like the Stoops quote,

"The world is constantly changing in everybody's professions," Stoops said. But, he quickly added, "The principles and the big parts of it, I don't think have changed. Relationships with young guys and young players still matter and are still the same. Young people are still the same. The game constantly evolves. As much as things change, there's still a lot that still operates the same way."

He must have the t-shirt, 'Keep Calm and Win Championships'. :)
 

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Nope, it isn't your grandfathers CFB anymore.
The one where a blue blood like OU would play maybe three difficult conference games, eight doormats and land in the Orange bowl for a distinct shot at the title.

No no no, parity, the high risk, high rewards spread offenses. It's not even close to being as easy as it used to be.
That's why that we find ourselves in this coveted position is beyond special.
Savor the moment.:cool:
 
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Great article. More proof that we should be careful of what we wish for, more often than we like to admit.
 

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Really good article. Only lunatics wanted Stoops fired after last season. The vast majority were clamoring for some type of changes, which Bob did make changes. That proved that Bob wasn't happy with where the program had ended up in recent years either. Hindsight is always 20/20 in the situations like Tennessee or Nebraska. But sticking with past coaches didn't guarantee they would have been more successful than they have been in the years since they made coaching changes. It's nothing but guesstimation as to how those coaches would have done if they had not been shown the door.
 

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Exactly Billy. I've said numerous times a head coach is only as good as his assistants. Thankfully Stoops made the changes that the staff needed.
 

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*Waits for revisionist history from resident Scoop liars
Oh I have no doubt eventually certain posters will show up trying to over exaggerate how this time a year ago the board was in revolt over wanting Bob Stoops to be fired.

Wait? I thought you were the self designated history major on the Scoop. Get busy digging up the dirt or forget about it and post on the article itself.

Exactly WNAS!!!!
 
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Winning and playing for an NC seems to be a cause of amnesia.
 
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If these were any other fans the term "bandwagon" would be in order.

I'd like to think my fellow Sooner brethren were above that.

Given the relatively quick impact our young WRs had on offense this year, you could definitely make the case that forcing Norvell to move on was the best coaching change Coach Stoops made. His challenges at Texas would further seem to support that.

Keeping Coach Mike around has proven to be another wise move. Again, be careful for what you wish for. Coach Stoops would seem to know what he's doing.
 

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Given the relatively quick impact our young WRs had on offense this year, you could definitely make the case that forcing Norvell to move on was the best coaching change Coach Stoops made. His challenges at Texas would further seem to support that.

Keeping Coach Mike around has proven to be another wise move. Again, be careful for what you wish for. Coach Stoops would seem to know what he's doing.

I know, my evil rendition of Bob Stoops would be saying..."You love me now don't ya?";)
 
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I know, my evil rendition of Bob Stoops would be saying..."You love me now don't ya?";)
Lol. Yeah, and I'm still glad he went public and said he didn't care what "some fans" think. He says what he thinks and sticks to his guns, even when it's not "popular". Why he's one of my coaching role models.
 

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I'm glad Stoops was smart enough to make the necessary changes. I guess I'll trust his abilities now.
I don't remember any posters names that thought his time was up. I read a lot of boards but a good number wanted him dismissed. I do remember some posters disliked him being touted as a top 5 or 10 coach.
 

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If these were any other fans the term "bandwagon" would be in order.

I'd like to think my fellow Sooner brethren were above that.
Oh no doubt there are bandwagon fans. Every program does. Most of the "Fire Bob Now!!" crowd was over on the pay board. Heck, even after the Texas loss there were some posters over there that threw their hands up and gave up on Bob and wanted him gone. Fans like that I prefer to call "fair weather" fans since their emotions can sway with wins or losses.

The vast majority of the level headed fans last year were curious to see how Bob would react and if he still had the fire and passion to win to do whatever it took to get the program rolling again. I believe Bob had to dig down deep and realize he had to cut some guys loose, like Heupel, that I'm sure he hated to do it. But he did it. And I think it's obvious it was the right move. But I have no doubt Bob will always hate that he had to make that decision. Bob's first 15 seasons or so, he never once fired an assistant. He's had to fire numerous coaches the past few years. But I think that's proof positive that he still has that passion to win.
 
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I'm glad Stoops was smart enough to make the necessary changes. I guess I'll trust his abilities now.
I don't remember any posters names that thought his time was up. I read a lot of boards but a good number wanted him dismissed. I do remember some posters disliked him being touted as a top 5 or 10 coach.

You were far from being alone regarding "trust".

The biggest related topic here last year and after the RRS were how great Briles and Patterson were, and how we'd been passed by Baylor and TCU respectively.

We don't hear much about that lately, sans a few stubborn ones who tend to intimate that we wouldn't have won if it weren't for QB injuries.

Safe to say rumors of Coach Stoop's demise were premature. Glad he's OUr coach.
 
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Some can't or refuse to grasp the nature of sports Tulsan.
In all reality, Tulsan is the one poster your first post should be pointed towards. Thankfully, I don't have to read whatever trash ST is bringing to this board anymore.
 

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You were far from being alone regarding "trust".

The biggest related topic here last year and after the RRS were how great Briles and Patterson were, and how we'd been passed by Baylor and TCU respectively.

We don't hear much about that lately, sans a few stubborn ones who tend to intimate that we wouldn't have won if it weren't for QB injuries.

Safe to say rumors of Coach Stoop's demise were premature. Glad he's OUr coach.

Yep, I've had a gut full of that 'you won against their second or third QB' crap.

It's not like we 'hobbled' them in a vicious, dastardly fashion.

When BYU knocked Sam out at Jerry world and they won, they didn't put any asterisks by the W on their record.
That's BS.
 
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Oh no doubt there are bandwagon fans. Every program does. Most of the "Fire Bob Now!!" crowd was over on the pay board. Heck, even after the Texas loss there were some posters over there that threw their hands up and gave up on Bob and wanted him gone. Fans like that I prefer to call "fair weather" fans since their emotions can sway with wins or losses.

The vast majority of the level headed fans last year were curious to see how Bob would react and if he still had the fire and passion to win to do whatever it took to get the program rolling again. I believe Bob had to dig down deep and realize he had to cut some guys loose, like Heupel, that I'm sure he hated to do it. But he did it. And I think it's obvious it was the right move. But I have no doubt Bob will always hate that he had to make that decision. Bob's first 15 seasons or so, he never once fired an assistant. He's had to fire numerous coaches the past few years. But I think that's proof positive that he still has that passion to win.


Great post Billy.

Bob is a loyal guy, for better or worse. It can be a flaw in athletic competition but it is what separates his character from other great football coaches who don't deserve the same respect as a person.

There is no better coach in football that balances success and great character than Bob Stoops, and for that we can be proud and thankful as Sooner fans.
 
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Yep, I've had a gut full of that 'you won against their second or third QB' crap.

It's not like we 'hobbled' them in a vicious, dastardly fashion.

When BYU knocked Sam out at Jerry world and they won, they didn't put any asterisks by the W on their record.
That's BS.

Yeah, hard to imagine why an OU fan would try to minimize a big win in an NC season. Of course, making predictions for the rest of the season after a tough loss might be a factor. Not sure, but doesn't seem logical to me.
 

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In all reality, Tulsan is the one poster your first post should be pointed towards. Thankfully, I don't have to read whatever trash ST is bringing to this board anymore.


I disagree whole heartedly. ST stays off the roller coaster. He knows a winner when he sees it and he doesn't throw in the towel because the champ took a blow that put him on the mat.
 

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Pretty decent article, although I can't imagine that many Georgia fans would want to keep Richt. Same goes for Solich.
 

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Pretty decent article, although I can't imagine that many Georgia fans would want to keep Richt. Same goes for Solich.

Nebraska fans might beg to differ.

Richt seemed to lack the ability to keep his more talented teams on track. He also had to deal with Saban and Meyer on the regular.
 

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Yep, I've had a gut full of that 'you won against their second or third QB' crap.

It's not like we 'hobbled' them in a vicious, dastardly fashion.

When BYU knocked Sam out at Jerry world and they won, they didn't put any asterisks by the W on their record.
That's BS.
The starting QBs of TCU, Baylor and OSU were "hobbled" BEFORE they faced OU.
These three games were still big wins for OU and I haven't read anyone denying that here, only pointing it out. But to say the three wins were not impacted by the absences of three very good opposing QBs is a bit of a stretch.
No one shed any tears for OU during its injury-wrecked 2009 season when OU suffered some 15 key injuries.....and why should they ?
Simply stated, injuries are occurring in football more than ever these days and very few teams can stay healthy during a 12 game season....OU faced three teams in November, back-to-back-to back, that were without their most important offensive player......But that's nothing to condemn OU for. OU played well, and even survived Mayfield's loss in the second half of the TCU game.
Personally, I wish OU played every game against a fully healthy opponent, but that's not realistic. OU played well after Texas and had a great season. How the three November games might have played out with Boykin, Russell and Rudolph healthy just doesn't mean **** now.
 

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We were fortunate Seth Russell was out.

We were without our starter for the majority of the TCU game too.

oSu wasn't beating us that night with Tom Brady as their QB.
 
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You and ST got more beef than a slaughterhouse...we get it.

I'll keep this post in mind when you're trotting around on your high horse.
Thankfully, the need for him to be doing so is as rare as Haleys Comet. LOL. Coach Mike says "hey".
 
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The starting QBs of TCU, Baylor and OSU were "hobbled" BEFORE they faced OU.
These three games were still big wins for OU and I haven't read anyone denying that here, only pointing it out. But to say the three wins were not impacted by the absences of three very good opposing QBs is a bit of a stretch.
No one shed any tears for OU during its injury-wrecked 2009 season when OU suffered some 15 key injuries.....and why should they ?
Simply stated, injuries are occurring in football more than ever these days and very few teams can stay healthy during a 12 game season....OU faced three teams in November, back-to-back-to back, that were without their most important offensive player......But that's nothing to condemn OU for. OU played well, and even survived Mayfield's loss in the second half of the TCU game.
Personally, I wish OU played every game against a fully healthy opponent, but that's not realistic. OU played well after Texas and had a great season. How the three November games might have played out with Boykin, Russell and Rudolph healthy just doesn't mean **** now.
Exactly....good reminder.
 

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Yep. But if we don't win the next two, I suspect you'll find the same claims of incompetence again, immediately after the next loss, whenever it is.
Come on Plaino we both know coaching plays little to no part in a team's success