He’s had several open looks last couple games but doesn’t shoot it. Why not? He doesn’t seem afraid to run the offense and drive to the basket.
Greer shot 49% from 3 last year in high school.
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I like how Greer carries himself, runs the offense, moves his feet on defense, which is why a 49% 3 pt shooter I don’t get why he doesn’t let it fly.
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The Freshman are all tentative because they get yanked much quicker than the veterans.
I tend to agree with this. Everyone but Law, Pardon and Gaines look afraid to make mistakes.
Turner seems to be tentative too. Anyone who shot 35 percent from 3 in the ACC could be expected to match that in the B1G, but having to play point guard and getting screamed at all the time by CC seems to have messed him up pretty badly.
37.4% to be exact, after 26% as a FY....
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/aj-turner-1.html
Are you implying that Turner has played well and doesn't deserve negative treatment?
He's been horrible as a lead guard.
Now if you want to argue he's out of position, I could accept that. However, it doesn't take away from the fact that he's regularly clock-killing tentative out there.
The guards as a group really leave a lot to be desired. I don't think any of them is a starter on a good team, and maybe only Taylor has the potential to be one.
I do want to argue that he’s out of position and that’s it’s messing with the things he could otherwise do well.
NU is a top 60 KenPom team so I don't feel justified in calling any player's play horrible.
Other than Greer who came in solid and got better throughout the year, there is no point guard on this team. Nothing close. And Greer would be best served to practice and observe, but he's being rushed into games.
AJ is a duck who is being asked to bark. It's just not what he does. You watch the frosh Greer when he's on the floor and it reminds you of what a PG is supposed to be. AJ does not have the handle of a PG and he just does not see the offense the same way. He's much better without the ball, in motion, rubbing guys off and then stepping out to receive the ball.
Same with Vic, yeah the injury, but he's being asked to do stuff he's just not oriented to do. Frankly, I don't get why there aren't more turnovers.
I'd really like to see AJ play his natural position.
Other than Greer who came in solid and got better throughout the year, there is no point guard on this team. Nothing close. And Greer would be best served to practice and observe, but he's being rushed into games.
AJ is a duck who is being asked to bark. It's just not what he does. You watch the frosh Greer when he's on the floor and it reminds you of what a PG is supposed to be. AJ does not have the handle of a PG and he just does not see the offense the same way. He's much better without the ball, in motion, rubbing guys off and then stepping out to receive the ball.
Same with Vic, yeah the injury, but he's being asked to do stuff he's just not oriented to do. Frankly, I don't get why there aren't more turnovers.
I'd really like to see AJ play his natural position.
Turner would likely be a 2 elsewhere. Gaines offers a lot in the Jitim mold. Greer potential but not ready yet. Ash not healthy. We are missing the right guy for the LG role which makes everything else look worse.
the jump from high school to playing against guys like Bruno and Winston is a big change when you are a developmental player
this is a pretty reasonable question. i tend to agree with PPD's response that all the freshman play a bit more tentative because they don't get the rope (or the minutes) that the vets do. that's reasonable to some extent. it can help to allow players to play through mistakes to give them confidence. and maybe giving them more consistent minutes is good too. gotta balance that with trying to win games though. it does seem like the freshmen are generally improving as the season goes along. it's been an uneven path but that's sort of the nature of the beast.
I sort of get it, but it still doesn't really explain why he misses so many good looks in rhythm from 3 pt range. He has a good stroke and hit 37.4% in the ACC as a soph 2 years ago. Those relatively open shots in rhythm shouldn't be deeply impacted unless we're saying his general confidence is screwed up?
Per KenPom, in Turner's sophomore year, he had the lowest usage rate of their five starters, and his turnover rate and offensive rating were much better. Having missed all of Boston College's games that season, I would guess that he was allowed to be choosy and didn't have to handle the ball very much, letting other guys create opportunities for him.
Something that surprised me was he's listed as a power forward in BC's most frequent lineups at the end of the season and otherwise played small forward. I guess I thought he was a shooting guard, but he's actually shifted down two or maybe three positions.
Maybe because his teammates had a better idea of where to get the ball or maybe because his principal responsibility is to run the O and that makes him think each time rather than just play and let it fly. When he was in the ACC his responsibility was to just play within the flow and when he got it when open, just let it go.
From what I see, Law runs the offense as much as anyone. And Gaines and Greer share the load as well. Turner may initiate the offense about 30% of the time, if that. I think he's just in his head and for some reason guys are not shooting with confidence.