Got outplayed in every aspect statistically! But that isn't the worse thing. Body language....Oweh smiling walking off court after game.... Didn't see a single player entire game get in a teammates face as you are getting embarrassed on your home court by a middle of the pack BE team. Yes it's an exhibition game, but if you have aspirations of a Natty you shouldn't have a performance as a team where act like you don't give crap about winning and you are really never in the game for almost 30 minutes.
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Yeah they didn’t care about this game at all. I mean it is what it is. It doesn’t count, but it was embarrassing still. Like I said about the Purdue game, hard to judge anything from exhibitions. We obviously need our guards to be successful like most teams.
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Hate to say it but I completely agree! I’ve got zero patience for ****** effort and idgaf attitudes!
All I can say is......
I remember calling Malik Monk every name in the book for laughing his butt off while we got waxed by UF. But that team should've won the title. But we all know we got roofereed.
I hope its a one off. But it does piss me off a bit.
I remember calling Malik Monk every name in the book for laughing his butt off while we got waxed by UF. But that team should've won the title. But we all know we got roofereed.
I hope its a one off. But it does piss me off a bit.
Played like ****, but they were down PG1 and PG2, as well as the stating C. I think they’ll be fine. But yea, the ones who did play played like ****.
I think on Tuesday we will find out a lot. This team should come out with a ton of energy, flying around and making plays. If you can't get that energy up for opening night and take that talent to a lesser opponent and handily beat them, then we are in trouble.
I may catch a lot of hate for this but idgaf.
This is an embarrassing display for a supposed $20M roster (highest paid roster in CBB, etc). WTF was all that money spent on? The only person on the floor today that was worth any $$ was Mo D. Malachi showed competency and should start over Garrison (really wish he would have transferred out over the summer), but needs to get better on D. Aberdeen was sorely missed, and I guess Lowe, but I've never been high on him, and I still think he sucks -- will gladly eat crow if I am wrong.
The others -- Oweh is a role player at best. No star player / "POTY candidate" misses that many layups. He's a low-end talent that tries (at least he tries, I guess?). Not worth top end $$. Rest of the "depth" is worth nothing. JJ's play style was very disappointing tonight.
The point is not the win / loss. It's a meaningless exhibition game -- everybody knows that. It's the fact that it's once again clear the team will get rolled by top end athleticism. The domination against Purdue showed the value of Coach Pope -- his system allows these scrubs to rise above the sum of their parts. This team will out-execute unathletic teams. But Coach needs better players.
If they are willing to drop $8M on Stokes this cycle, why would they not go after real talent in AJD, DP, et al in the previous cycle? "Depth" is just euphemism for "low ceiling". Really need to re-evaluate priorities and get top end talent for Coach to work with. Kentucky should not be a layup drill for freaking Georgetown, exhibition or not.
This is an embarrassing display for a supposed $20M roster (highest paid roster in CBB, etc). WTF was all that money spent on? The only person on the floor today that was worth any $$ was Mo D. Malachi showed competency and should start over Garrison (really wish he would have transferred out over the summer), but needs to get better on D. Aberdeen was sorely missed, and I guess Lowe, but I've never been high on him, and I still think he sucks -- will gladly eat crow if I am wrong.
The others -- Oweh is a role player at best. No star player / "POTY candidate" misses that many layups. He's a low-end talent that tries (at least he tries, I guess?). Not worth top end $$. Rest of the "depth" is worth nothing. JJ's play style was very disappointing tonight.
The point is not the win / loss. It's a meaningless exhibition game -- everybody knows that. It's the fact that it's once again clear the team will get rolled by top end athleticism. The domination against Purdue showed the value of Coach Pope -- his system allows these scrubs to rise above the sum of their parts. This team will out-execute unathletic teams. But Coach needs better players.
If they are willing to drop $8M on Stokes this cycle, why would they not go after real talent in AJD, DP, et al in the previous cycle? "Depth" is just euphemism for "low ceiling". Really need to re-evaluate priorities and get top end talent for Coach to work with. Kentucky should not be a layup drill for freaking Georgetown, exhibition or not.
Tuesday against a bunch of scrubs isn't going to tell anything IMO. The team is clearly well-coached and will out-execute anyone. They need to show competence against athleticism, because that will be the SEC and the NCAAT, day in and day out.
No low end talents scored double figures every game of the year for a high major team. Oweh is legit, he had nothing to work with tonight and he still isn’t 100%. He’s the last player I worry about on this team.
I will be glad if I am wrong and you are right. I don't see it in Oweh. A player who has an NFL brother would get drafted for the genetics alone if teams got a whiff of real talent. But again, I will gladly eat crow if he steps up.
He obviously will, we already have an entire season in the best conference in America to rely on. He is not unknown quantity even here.
This was an exhibition but it was still an embarrassment.
Not prepared to play. We are certainly better than this. So why play like this?
And if Oweh is our best player then we will be no better than last year.
The whole team and coaching staff should be ashamed of this performance.
Not prepared to play. We are certainly better than this. So why play like this?
And if Oweh is our best player then we will be no better than last year.
The whole team and coaching staff should be ashamed of this performance.
Agree 100%. We all know Pope is an analytics guy, but sometimes you have to take a timeout and ask you tired of getting punched in the face guys, now it's time to punch back twice as hard
Not sure what Georgetown did in the portal, but they went 18-16 last year. Losing to that team by 14 in Rupp is embarrassing.
I'm willing to say KY spent more on 1 guy than Gtown spent on their entire roster
Bottom line—getting your *** kicked by ******* Georgetown in Rupp, even in an exhibition, is ******* embarrassing and unacceptable. Pope needs to rip their asses. Simply must do better.
I understand the frustration, but saying that he is a role player maybe one of the most stupid effing things I've read on here in a long time. Your posting name shows youve just come to troll.
I’d be a fan of changing NIL to contracts that make you have to perform and creates incentives to win.
Watch em change their attitude then
I assure you I didn't come to troll, but I understand why my username would make you think that. The $20M number just resonates with me because I run a business unit with about ~$20-30M in the CapEx plan in a given year, and I'm not seeing $20M worth on the basketball court. Yeah, the username is a troll-ish name, I get that.
I won't back down from my position that I just don't see Oweh as a "highest paid player" type. He is a good baller but doesn't give the team a high ceiling. IMO the ceiling for this team will depend on JQ's level of play upon return, how quickly Malachi gets to the next level, and whether JJ can reign in the "Steve Francis at the Rucker" play. Right now it's just depressing to see that any semblance of athleticism is going to give the team fits. I don't think just getting Denzel back will mask all of it. We will see.
We didn’t have an alpha who played tonight. That guy who said we are down some players but the expectation is that we win, no matter what. Thought Owen was that guy but apparently not. Think it has to be a guard. One who pushes the tempo and holds guys accountable. Gets on their face and pushes them. Much like Butler when he was healthy. Someone will fill the role once we are a complete team. Concerned at the moment but not worried.
Go CATS!!!
Go CATS!!!
The team UK put on the floor tonight is not a top 25 team.
If Chandler and Noah are your starters at the 1 and 3 this team would struggle to make the tournament.
The team we put in the floor Tues night(hopefully) with Aberdeen and Lowe is a legit top 8-15 team
UK is only a legit top 5 team with Aberdeen/Lowe and a healthy JQ.
If he were “legit” he’d be in the NBA. If Otega is your best, then your team is probably capable of being good (not great). Otega was what he was last year because of injuries to others, not necessarily because he always shined above the rest.
"Oweh is a role player at best"
Couldn't read past that moronic line. Pre-Season SEC player of the year is a role player. Wow rafters, wow!
So nobody in college is legit? I mean he wasn’t voted SEC PPOY because he’s average.
I think there's a middle ground between "legit" and average. Oweh is a good, not great, college player. PRE-SEASON means nothing. If he's the post-season POY, let me know. I think he will be fine. If Otega is the best player, this team won't be a whole lot better than last years team. Lowe and JQ need to be better than him.
have to agree............20 million for that.............wow someone needs to take control of the $ & spend it for more talent
Lowe and JQ MUST be better than the display last night. I understand having an off game, but you don't just laugh about it. They should have been mad, upset about their play.
I’d say anyone who averages 17 a game is a great college player. That’s just me though.
Bourbon combined with a personality that is dependent on college basketball outcomes is the key to the absurdity we all get to see on RR.
My god folks, chill out. We were down three starters in an exhibition game and some of you are acting like we just bowed out of the NCAA tourney in the round of 32 as a 2-seed.
My god folks, chill out. We were down three starters in an exhibition game and some of you are acting like we just bowed out of the NCAA tourney in the round of 32 as a 2-seed.
Uh, I understand your points. However, I saw a lack of effort and enthusiasm.
That‘s unacceptable.
He averaged 16.2 and ranked 174th in scoring. 11th in the SEC. 45-50 in P4 conferences. That’s a lot of “great” players. He’s good. He’s just not good enough to be the best player on a championship level team. That’s my only point. I THINK Lowe and (hopefully healthy) JQ will be better. And that will be good enough. If Oweh is going to be the best player on that kind of a team, he’s going to have to elevate his game from last year.
I think everyone that is saying three starters is stretching it a bit. JQ has zero guarantees at this moment. Lowe and Aberdeen certainly. Btw, I think it’s super important to realize those two probably change the HOW in the loss greatly. Both, especially Aberdeen, seem to be excellent on ball defenders. That aspect alone last night was a killer in how the game played out. If anything, that should be an opener to the guys that did play.
Oweh is a tier below of Lenier, Sears, Clayton, Broome (core player for EE team)
So I kind of understand, if we want to go far, we need Lowe and JQ emerge, or Oweh elevates his game to another level
As of now, no major differences with last season. But it is only two games, see if Oweh improves during season
So I kind of understand, if we want to go far, we need Lowe and JQ emerge, or Oweh elevates his game to another level
As of now, no major differences with last season. But it is only two games, see if Oweh improves during season
Agreed on all fronts. Not a knock at all, just an area of concern/opportunity to improve.
I thought Cal was gone, but this embarrassing performance makes me think otherwise.
I would argue it's a bit worse than last season. Last season, the defense was generally soft and got handled by athletic teams. Very bad overall. However, the offense had a magic aura about it where there were guys that could get hot from 3 and go stretches just never missing (Jax, Brea). When those guys got hot, the whole team would feed off that energy and you'd see guys like Almonor that were otherwise useless go crazy from 3. The offense would be unstoppable, and in a 4 minute run, would essentially win the game.
This year, the expectation was for the defense to be significantly better against athleticism, and it doesn't look like that will be the case. That's the major disappointment from the G-Town exhibition -- if it's more of the same on defense this year, it won't be a good year. Offense I expect to be severely downgraded -- I don't see a Brea type, and there's definitely nobody on Jax level. No real catalyst to whip up the team in a frenzy. I saw another post where bro said Oweh fed off Jax, and I agree 100%. Oweh trying to be the creator is a disaster waiting to happen.
So if defense hasn't improved by a lot, I don't see this as a better team.
Last point -- Amari caught a lot of flak last year, but he was the #1 transfer center, 5 star transfer, etc, etc. Not a coincidence he is hanging around the NBA. Brea is fringe NBA, and has an elite skill. Jax was a good talent, derailed by injuries. This year, there is nothing elite that I see on offense. I think there was more talent last year than we thought, and I think this year the talent is being overrated, probably a combo of blue tinted goggles and self-consolation from missing out on the elite talents (transfers like Dent and YL and obviously freshmen like AJD / DP).
Cal is yelling everytime
I don't like this
But Mark Pope seems to be too loose, has no control at times
Amari was not #1 transfer center. Ballo was. Amari was four star transfer, ranked in 50-100 range I think.
I think if Jax was not injured, he may be in NBA as well, I remember he shot like 48% in SEC... He seemed to be more consistent during conference play, and he may be finally 40% 3pt shooter in the whole season if not injured, whichnkay sent him to NBA
We have a creator Lowe, which we did not have past season, no one can penetrate defense last season. Will see after Lowe/Aderbeen returning.
I see your point generally
You're right -- I just checked and On3 had 4 star, #3 PF. And yeah, we missed out on peak Jax -- that's a shame.