How bad is the Offense?

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Neal Brown was supposed to be a Air Raid OC. His offense doesnt reflect that at all. Its stagnant, predictable and boring. Just like he is in his interviews.

But at least he's having cookouts and pool parties for the upper class men. Good for him. Winning games doesnt seem to be high on his priority list. His post game interview was pathetic. I didnt get the impression he cared much or was upset in any way that he just blew the homecoming game against a team missing a bunch of their best players. I finally stomached watching it yesterday. Blah... we are stuck with this guy for how long now?
 

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I don't know where people got the idea Brown ran air raid offense. He has never had an air raid offense. He uses motion and TE as decoys. Always has always will.
 

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I don't know where people got the idea Brown ran air raid offense. He has never had an air raid offense. He uses motion and TE as decoys. Always has always will.
I read it in an article when we first hired him, that when he was at Kentucky and TTU that he was brought up in the air raid system and that what he ran a TT as an OC. Maybe they were wrong, because what he runs doesn't seem air raid at all. It took a very embarrassing first half to get him to even try pushing the ball downfield. His offense reminds me more of what we ran with Nehlen.
 

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That was not his offense to claim. That was his head coaches. He has been with teams that ran that .
 

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That was not his offense to claim. That was his head coaches. He has been with teams that ran that .
What is his offense then? It's about as exciting as watching old men read books. No identity, no fire, no passion. His O is as dull as he is. But he's a super nice guy. Yay.
 

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Whatever he supposed to be able or labeled as, he is limited by the talent on hand. Granted, he is the one who brought all the current QBs here. He is getting out what their limited abilities are. Doege short passes, Greene limited to understanding the play book and the freshman not ready.
 

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Whatever he supposed to be able or labeled as, he is limited by the talent on hand. Granted, he is the one who brought all the current QBs here. He is getting out what their limited abilities are. Doege short passes, Greene limited to understanding the play book and the freshman not ready.

We have talent on this offense. Our WR's are way underrated because they are held back by bad QB play and bad play calling. And their drops weren't an issue until Doege took over. Sam James was a beast pre-Doege. He throws some hard passes to catch sometimes. I've paid a lot of attention to that. He's bad at overthrowing passes, even really easy ones. His ball placement leaves a lot to be desired. Leddie Brown is very talented too, but teams can stack the box because we dont push the ball downfield. TTU forced ShNeal Brown to push it downfield in the second half out of embarrassment, and it worked pretty good. Our WR's were getting wide open. In fact, Doege has overlooked so many wide open WR's this season I've lost count.
 

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Whatever he supposed to be able or labeled as, he is limited by the talent on hand. Granted, he is the one who brought all the current QBs here. He is getting out what their limited abilities are. Doege short passes, Greene limited to understanding the play book and the freshman not ready.
So you're saying next year could be as bad as this one.
 

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Unless he brings in a freshman or portal transfer or the kid riding the pine currently and turns the keys over, then yes.
Nicco, Greene and Goose will battle for starting job. Greene won't get it and then transfer. Another reason he should fill a spot at QB with a transfer.
 
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Let's just say Kansas game should be first to score wins.


The trifecta of Sark, Rich Rod, & Kelly couldnt have done much better with this roster the past 2.3 years. There are non P5 teams more talented+experienced then what WVU had on offense the past few years.

Thankfully that is being resolved, just gonna take some time.

Truly I think that Stat is more of a reflection of the previous regimes recruiting, combined with deploying the strategy that gives the best odds of winning under seriously restrictive circumstances, then it is the current staffs ability to coach offense.

That said, its definitely nowhere good enough and where we should see the biggest improvements in the next couple of years. If Brown wants to win at WVU, even with a quality defense, you gotta put a more productive & consistent offense on the field. Hopefully these limitations will be resolved soon via recruiting, just gotta get them developed. FingersCrossed
 
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NICCO is considering dropping his WVU commitment. Looking at SEC .
President Biden is considering reducing taxes, regulations, enacting term limits for senate & congress, making lobbyist illegal, paying China back all their money, ensuring vaccine passports are illegal, and building a boarder wall
 
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Warren Ruggiero Wake Forest OC is doing good things. I saw a recent article, and watched some of their film and listened to a few interviews, seems like an analytical type.

If Brown hires an OC, while I can understand the trepidation hiring a WF OC, but id rather go with someone who exudes intellect with a proven recruiting track record, that perhaps dont have the "Big name + Big Ego" type. Not saying Warren is the guy, not at all, but more-so the "under the radar + analytical type"...

Promoting Kirk C is an option too, but either way, I have extracted certain perspectives from my work, diversification of perspective is important, so I hope Lyons continues to give Brown the resources to keep quality analyst on staff, to ensure we have a good mix of perspectives, experiences, etc. Im not a fan when every coach on the staff is from the same coaching tree. Diversity in this sense is usually a good thing, as it helps produce more things that are unique, ( ie less predictable). People who are extremely successful in the business world, usually combine two different fields or perspectives to produce something different.

Again, much of current concepts are extremely limited due to roster, but perhaps Brown can continue to have quality support staff for when the time comes those limitations are not present and the concepts deployed produce a more consistent outcome.
 
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If you believe that, I have a bridge in New York to sell you.
 
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Link...Oh that's right you have none

No SEC In Nicco TOP 3
WVU -58.2 % - Hard commit
FSU - 17.6%
ASU - 23.5%

Our performance on the field could either give him reason to be excited about his commitment or really question it. If he thinks Doege is just not that good and the offense just needs a better player, he should be excited because he has a chance of waltzing to the starting job for up to 4 years if he wants it. If he thinks the coaching staff are irresponsible and mismanaging the offense, then it would be logical that he'd question it. I hope he stays and Brown better be praying he does since this kid seems to be where Brown has all of his eggs.
 

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Famous words from a wise man, John McKay..........

"What do you think of your team's execution?"

"I'm in favor of it"

And......

"We can't win at home or on the road. What we need is a neutral site".

:joy: