How do Catholics justify supporting abortion?
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can open, worms everywhere
Some Catholics think it's ok to dance, so what do you expect?
The same way they justify supporting their own church after decades of covering up child molestation and centuries of the worst atrocities in human history.
Didn’t know so many are ok with it. Just seems like fewer opportunities for diddling and piddling em as kids, obviously. Strange gameplan.
Well since they "get away" with it then it must be sanctioned by the Church. Don't pay any attention to what the Church says, follow the money. Catholic politicians are millionaires and the Church wants their share. Look at other members like Coach Calipari. He is a well known "good Catholic" and he supports the most liberal politicians. So money controls the Church and has for centuries.
The Roman Catholic Church is probably the richest institution in the world. And they like money so they turn a blind eye and by not taking action, it is the same as sanctioning.
And they are no the only Church that does this. Most do
The Roman Catholic Church is probably the richest institution in the world. And they like money so they turn a blind eye and by not taking action, it is the same as sanctioning.
And they are no the only Church that does this. Most do
Because being a democrat is more important to them than being a Catholic.
I don’t see how anyone can take the Catholic Church leadership seriously when the bishops have no problem giving Biden and Pelosi the Eucharist when they are backing full term unrestricted abortion.
It either matters or it doesn’t and the bishops’ actions say the Church’s teachings don’t matter.
I don’t see how anyone can take the Catholic Church leadership seriously when the bishops have no problem giving Biden and Pelosi the Eucharist when they are backing full term unrestricted abortion.
It either matters or it doesn’t and the bishops’ actions say the Church’s teachings don’t matter.
There is no balance between what the church says is right and forgiveness of sins. The church has always taught that you ask for and receive the eucharist of your own want and will as a sign of faith to God (not necessarily the church). Although Biden has been denied the eucharist even recently because of his stance on abortion, the church doesn't support that action simply because then you would put the clergy in a position to judge which obviously is worse than someone not adhering to the catholic beliefs on specific items.
That's at least my take on it, and to me it's a healthy position for a church to take.
That's at least my take on it, and to me it's a healthy position for a church to take.
Interesting. I would think the Church would have issue with allowing an unrepentant and repeat murderer into weekly communion (as abortion is equivalent to murder in the eyes of the Church). My guess is that the Eucharist would be denied in that situation. Key words being unrepentant and repeat. You must ask for forgiveness of your sins and make a good faith effort to stop. Or at least that’s what I’ve always been told. But I’m obviously not God.
Both the bishop of DC and Biden’s Delaware diocese say they have no plans to exclude him from communion so I’m unsure of where he has been denied the sacrament.
FWIW, been a member of Protestant congregations my whole life, and yet to hear one sermon in favor of abortion on demand, so can't say I agree it is solely a Catholic "thing".
Also, at the risk of violating my 2021 NY Resolution (Waste Exactly Zero Percent of Your Life Arguing Politics with Strangers on CatsIllustrated, now and forevermore), when exactly did Biden and Pelosi state they are backing full term unrestricted abortion, i.e., ripping nine month old babies out and killing them in the delivery room?
[No doubt, they. along with millions of Americans, are in favor of the right of women to choose, so I will stipulate that to be a fact]
Also, at the risk of violating my 2021 NY Resolution (Waste Exactly Zero Percent of Your Life Arguing Politics with Strangers on CatsIllustrated, now and forevermore), when exactly did Biden and Pelosi state they are backing full term unrestricted abortion, i.e., ripping nine month old babies out and killing them in the delivery room?
[No doubt, they. along with millions of Americans, are in favor of the right of women to choose, so I will stipulate that to be a fact]
As long as the person and fetus isn’t catholic they are all for it. Mormons too
One of many good reasons leading to my NY resolution above
I'm a lapsed Catholic, but...
My best guess is that rural diocese ( plural ?) take the traditional stance. No artificial birth control, no abortion, etc. An urban diocese is likely progressive.
I would be shocked if the priest currently at the parish I grew up in would give Biden communion. His predecessor flat out said that a good Catholic shouldn't support a politician who supports abortion.
I'll say that I don't oppose medically important or non-consensual pregnancy abortions.
My best guess is that rural diocese ( plural ?) take the traditional stance. No artificial birth control, no abortion, etc. An urban diocese is likely progressive.
I would be shocked if the priest currently at the parish I grew up in would give Biden communion. His predecessor flat out said that a good Catholic shouldn't support a politician who supports abortion.
I'll say that I don't oppose medically important or non-consensual pregnancy abortions.
I don't see how anyone can take the Catholic Church leadership seriously when everyone on the planet knows they molested children and covered it up for decades. Maybe be a little more mad about that and less about Biden having access to a little wafer once a week.
One wrong doesn’t make the other right. Both are horrible crimes against children. How about you show more outrage about other religious denominations with higher rates of child sex abuse rather than just the one with the most media coverage?
Libs are just common sheep with simple minds. I feel for you.
I figured the official stance hasn’t changed: Abortion, like homosexuality and contraception violates “natural law” or “natural order”.
I have to admit, I find being both anti-abortion and anti-contraception to be baffling, I figured the latter could render the former useless.
I have to admit, I find being both anti-abortion and anti-contraception to be baffling, I figured the latter could render the former useless.
Here’s my take. No normal person is pro-abortion. Pro-choice means it’s nobody’s business, especially not the government’s. A person who performs, or chooses to have, an abortion will either have to answer for it someday or not (your beliefs may vary).
They don’t like it because that means there are less kids for the priests to rapeIsn't killing the unborn like the top no-no for Catholics?
I came to the same resolution last month. Wish I had done it at the first of the year.
Did I say that I wasn’t mad about that? It’s deplorable. Start a specific thread in reference to that subject and believe me you’ll hear my opinion about it. Nice try though.
The “little wafer” is the body and blood of Jesus Christ, the highest principle of Catholic doctrine. Abortion is a grave evil and those who facilitate it separate themselves from the body of Christ and make a mockery of the Holy Eucharist when they receive the sacrament unworthily.
Sadly, many Catholics (and Christians of other denominations) prefer to follow doctrines and principles pleasing to man rather than pleasing to God.
Wasting your time. He mocks the most sacred aspect of practicing Christianity so I’m sure he’ll gladly take the opportunity to roll in the mud and throw out more mockery.
Issue of abortion has no place in politics. All it does is create lying hypocrites. The same people that preach pro life are the same ones that criticize care after they’re born. It’s a tool to incite the morons on both sides. I love life. I understand abortion like I understand suicide. Does that make me a bad person? A bad politician? A bad father, neighbor, brother, son, husband? Show me the first perfect human. I’ll show you the king of the hypocrites
Add: anyone that denies the fact that the church became a safe haven for pedophiles, child abusers, rapist and other degenerates is a fool. If you’re age 55 or so, you’re lying if you say in your lifetime dealing with religious, you didn’t hear the whispers, see the wounds, or know a member of the cloth that turned out to be a monster.
In other words, "My religion did some awful ****, but hey! Look over there!"
Yeah, no. I was a Catholic before all of that came out. My church (who had a molesting priest back in the 1960's) then sent out letters begging for money right after everything came out. I appreciate the insult though about simple minds and sheep. In a religion thread. Not much for turning the other cheek, are ya? Immediately went into deflect and attack mode when I wasn't even talking to you.
Sure, but it's also literally a wafer. I've had many of them. It's a symbol, but it's a wafer. I hope it didn't offend you that I called it what it literally is. Wine was served as well, in a fancy gold cup.
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