Led with the crown of his helmet - 15 yard penalty, OK. Never came anywhere close to contact to the QB's helmet - how is that cause for his ejection? The targeting rule has its purpose but this call was atrocious.
How was the Bosa hit targeting and worth ejection?
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Leading with the crown is targeting by rule. The rule is what it is. Not a big fan of it. But it was the correct call. Not sure that was worth an ejection but player safety is priority number 1. If there are gonna be players who choose to break certain rules then they just won't participate.
Bosa isn't dirty and a heck of an athlete and player. Certainly changes the game. I don't care who wins this game. Wish it would end in a tie.
Bosa isn't dirty and a heck of an athlete and player. Certainly changes the game. I don't care who wins this game. Wish it would end in a tie.
I understand the penalty. Sort of the old 'spearing' penalty that was almost never called. But I thought ejection was only for egregious hits to the head. Bosa planted his head in the QB's chest, never made any contact with the head. Don't understand the ejection at all.
Hate both but I'd pull for ISIS over the Irish, so go Bucks!!
Hate both but I'd pull for ISIS over the Irish, so go Bucks!!
He basically speared him in the sternum and could have seriously hurt him. That is what the rule is intended to do ,is protect defenseless players..No matter which team some of you hate, it's a good rule and it was applied properly. Wrap the guy up and tackle him. If he had done that he would still be playing. Simple.
He speared him right in the chest protector...it was a good call when you look at,the rule, but another example of the pussification of football. Bosa was more likely to be injured on that play than Kizer. I like to see the best players play, not get tossed for a bs rule.
Agree with the penality but not the ejection. However, expect nothing less from the SEC "look at me" stripes crew. These guys need to understand people pay to see the players, not the stripes.
It is what it is. I don't necessarily like the exact rule but the call was correct under the rule.
That being said, many consider Bosa the best talent in the draft. If that's the case I'm glad he will be healthy come draft. The Titans will probably choose first overall.
I'm thinking:
1. Trade down (perhaps to 5-ish with the 49ers) and still pick up Hargreaves, Bosa, or Tunsil
2. Stay at #1 and choose Tunsil or Bosa.
That being said, many consider Bosa the best talent in the draft. If that's the case I'm glad he will be healthy come draft. The Titans will probably choose first overall.
I'm thinking:
1. Trade down (perhaps to 5-ish with the 49ers) and still pick up Hargreaves, Bosa, or Tunsil
2. Stay at #1 and choose Tunsil or Bosa.
Agree about the old seldom if ever called spearing rule. But in todays game, by rule, spearing is targeting and replay upheld targeting means ejection.
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If you trade to five you certainly aren't getting Bosa and probably not Tunsil. You could get Hargreaves at 15 most likely. Disappointing player this season.
As far as the ejection, it sucks. But the beef needs to be the rule, not today's officials. They simply enforced a textbook example of targeting as it's defined in the rules.
Pussification of football? You should ask Nick Buoniconti about his son sometime. I was in the stands when Marc Buoniconti hit Herman Jacobs and then lay motionless on the field for probably more than 30 minutes. That was the first thought I had when I saw Bosa's hit today. Did Bosa's hit warrant ejection? At the very least it warranted the tO$U staff giving Bosa an *** chewing and lesson he hopefully won't forget.
You can't agree with the penalty and then blame the refs for the ejection at the same time. It's part of the penalty. The refs applied the ruling correctly.
IMO, the top crews in the SEC are some of the best crews in the country when it comes to officiating.
I'm all for hard hitting in football. But I'm also for player safety. Football can be played hard and fast and be enjoyed by the players and fans while also being safe. With two boys who I hope to play football one day, I want the game to be safer.
In the SEC they make sure that the sacred cows are never upset, if that is what you mean by being the best.
Oh it's very possible. Most likely the only reason the 49ers trade with the Titans is to jump ahead of Cleveland for their QB choice. Cleveland is expected to take another shot at a QB as well. That means there are 3 teams left in the top 5......and it really depends on who's bib board you are looking at. Kiper has Bosa and Jaylon Smith as his top 2. Others have Tunsil up there. McShay had Tunsil going at #5 not too long ago. So, it's not too far fetched.
Not sure I understand. I've seen plenty of plays this year where the call was targeting, the refs review and revise it to a 15 yard penalty with no ejection. Again, I agree that the play deserved a penalty. Don't see how a QB running with the ball and getting hit head-on is 'defenseless' - he can clearly see Bosa coming. Maybe I misunderstand the rule. I thought 'targeting' was strictly for contact to the head of the defenseless player. Didn't know it was for a vicious hit in the chest. As others have pointed out, Bosa was probably a lot more at risk on that play than the QB and the proper call is to give a 15-yard penalty AND eject him? I thought the rule was to protect the receiver of the blow, not the giver. I think the ejection was unwarranted under the rule as I understand it to be written and the spirit.
Here's the definition of NCAA rule 9-1-3 for targeting: "No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul."
He didn't lead with Facemask, facemask makes contact first than most certainly not ejected but just the penalty.
He led with crown and can't do it. It does look very pedestrian in a sense but rule is rule.
He was lucky, this meaningless bowl game did not get him hurt unlike the ND guy who is projected as top 3-4 pick. Guy injured knee, No way would I let these guys play if they are JR's and projected as 1st rounders.
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He led with crown and can't do it. It does look very pedestrian in a sense but rule is rule.
He was lucky, this meaningless bowl game did not get him hurt unlike the ND guy who is projected as top 3-4 pick. Guy injured knee, No way would I let these guys play if they are JR's and projected as 1st rounders.
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On this particular play the QB wasn't running but throwing the ball. He was defenseless. I believe it was the proper call and Boss should have been ejected. I officiate H.S. and youth football in Ohio.....that by no means I am an expert but the game is changing for the cause of safety. It has too? If these rules aren't enforced parents won't allow their kids to play the game starting at the youth level. There is already a decline in participation in the Cincinnati area. If the game doesn't become safer I'm not sure the game will continue to exist. Yes, it's hard for the older generation to understand this but facts are facts! Combine the size of the players with the speed and the game has drastically changed just in my lifetime.