Huggs Will Fix It!

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How long has Huggs been trying to fix it? It seems like the Panama Canal took less time to construct than it’s taking for Huggs to fix his basketball program.

Depends on your definition of fix. If you think fix means nothing short of another Final Four team, then you'd be right. Otherwise last year and the year before WVU was not a dysfunctional crap show. Those were actually decent basketball teams even if not true championship contenders.

That being said, if the last 4 games are what we see the rest of the season it will be the second disaster of a season in 4 years given the 2018-2019 season was trash.
 

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Depends on your definition of fix. If you think fix means nothing short of another Final Four team, then you'd be right. Otherwise last year and the year before WVU was not a dysfunctional crap show. Those were actually decent basketball teams even if not true championship contenders.

That being said, if the last 4 games are what we see the rest of the season it will be the second disaster of a season in 4 years given the 2018-2019 season was trash.
It seems very likely that next year will not be any better. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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I think it's unfair to place any blame whatsoever on Huggins. He's not the one out there putting forth garbage effort, missing shots, turning it over, and standing around on defense. Some of you are acting like he responsible for the evaluation and development of the players on the team. He's not. These players are supposed to come ready to compete with the upper half of the B12. If those players don't have what it takes, it's their fault for hoodwinking the staff into a scholarship.
 

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Depends on your definition of fix. If you think fix means nothing short of another Final Four team, then you'd be right. Otherwise last year and the year before WVU was not a dysfunctional crap show. Those were actually decent basketball teams even if not true championship contenders.

That being said, if the last 4 games are what we see the rest of the season it will be the second disaster of a season in 4 years given the 2018-2019 season was trash.
As was 2013. The way I see it there is only one guy on this team that wants to win and plays that way. He just happens to be one of our least efficient players on offense. But he was the leading scorer last night for WVU.

The rest of these guys only care about personal stats. They should spend less time on their braids and more time practicing.
 

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I dont see a fix for it this year unless he successfully changes his entire scheme. Problem is, we have no big man inside, and on a Huggins team that aint good and wont be fixed until we have someone in the mold of a Culver. Otherwise, Huggs will have to change his system to blend with the talent he has left after losing Oscar, McBride, Culver and Matthews last season.
 

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I dont see a fix for it this year unless he successfully changes his entire scheme. Problem is, we have no big man inside, and on a Huggins team that aint good and wont be fixed until we have someone in the mold of a Culver. Otherwise, Huggs will have to change his system to blend with the talent he has left after losing Oscar, McBride, Culver and Matthews last season.
8 Seniors on the team this season. They are gone next year anyway.
 
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We need to start cheating on the recruiting trail. Immediately. I'm sure Mountaineer fans would be willing to risk a year of no-tournament sanctions sometime many, many years from now to reap the benefits of a team filled with 4 and 5* players in say 2023-24.
 

.Bodhi.

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He said he can't go out like this, so he'll be here for as long as he'll have him.
Then he better hope that a forgotten HS recruit like Jevon Carter drops into his lap like manna from Heaven, who, by the sheer force of will from ONE player, gets him back to the Sweet 16.

Because right now, it looks like he's as apathetic as a coach can be.
 
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As was 2013. The way I see it there is only one guy on this team that wants to win and plays that way. He just happens to be one of our least efficient players on offense. But he was the leading scorer last night for WVU.

The rest of these guys only care about personal stats. They should spend less time on their braids and more time practicing.

After 2012-2013, WVU went:
17-16 with NIT first round loss
25-10 with Sweet 16
26-9 with NCAA first round loss
28-9 with NCAA Sweet 16
26-11 with NCAA Sweet 16
15-21 with CBI waste of time
21-10 with everyone losing to COVID in post season play. WVU was definitely in and no worse than a 6 seed that year
19-10 with NCAA second round loss.

So WVU went 5 seasons after the 2012-2013 disaster where the team wasn't atrocious. After the 2018-2019 disaster, WVU had back to back NCAA appearance worthy seasons. But if 2021-2022 becomes a disaster, it will be a bit concerning how often these disasters are occurring.
 

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What I don't understand is after 40 years of coaching is that Huggs either cannot evaluate talent or thinks he can coach low level talent up to compete in the B12. If he can evaluate talent he should have seen this coming and focused way more on recruiting. If he thinks he can coach them up regardless of talent then he is giving himself way more credit than he deserves, and I do think he is a good coach.

Unless he goes out and pays (NIL) for better talent then he is going to go out on a low note and next year is going to be coyote ugly.
 

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After 2012-2013, WVU went:
17-16 with NIT first round loss
25-10 with Sweet 16
26-9 with NCAA first round loss
28-9 with NCAA Sweet 16
26-11 with NCAA Sweet 16
15-21 with CBI waste of time
21-10 with everyone losing to COVID in post season play. WVU was definitely in and no worse than a 6 seed that year
19-10 with NCAA second round loss.

So WVU went 5 seasons after the 2012-2013 disaster where the team wasn't atrocious. After the 2018-2019 disaster, WVU had back to back NCAA appearance worthy seasons. But if 2021-2022 becomes a disaster, it will be a bit concerning how often these disasters are occurring.
So you expect 28 wins every season and final appearances with an NCAA championship every other year? Bob says fix it fans go ape ****.
 
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So you expect 28 wins every season and final appearances with an NCAA championship every other year? Bob says fix it fans go ape ****.

You're reading things into my post that are not there. My point is Huggins came into a good situation at WVU almost 15 full seasons ago. He had 5 consecutive years of winning 19+ games and making the NCAA Tournament each year. He then had an ugly losing season followed by a rebuilding season. What followed next was 4 consecutive 25+ win seasons and making the NCAA Tournament each year including 3 Sweet 16 appearances. He then had another ugly losing season before 2 19+ win seasons qualifying for the NCAA tournament both years. Now, barring a miracle, this will be the 3rd losing season since Huggins took over 15 seasons ago, but the second in the last 4 years. That is a concerning down trend from the bar Huggins set himself over the course of the first 11 seasons he was at WVU.
 

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You're reading things into my post that are not there. My point is Huggins came into a good situation at WVU almost 15 full seasons ago. He had 5 consecutive years of winning 19+ games and making the NCAA Tournament each year. He then had an ugly losing season followed by a rebuilding season. What followed next was 4 consecutive 25+ win seasons and making the NCAA Tournament each year including 3 Sweet 16 appearances. He then had another ugly losing season before 2 19+ win seasons qualifying for the NCAA tournament both years. Now, barring a miracle, this will be the 3rd losing season since Huggins took over 15 seasons ago, but the second in the last 4 years. That is a concerning down trend from the bar Huggins set himself over the course of the first 11 seasons he was at WVU.
Disagree but feel free to fret over it.
 

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After 2012-2013, WVU went:
17-16 with NIT first round loss
25-10 with Sweet 16
26-9 with NCAA first round loss
28-9 with NCAA Sweet 16
26-11 with NCAA Sweet 16
15-21 with CBI waste of time
21-10 with everyone losing to COVID in post season play. WVU was definitely in and no worse than a 6 seed that year
19-10 with NCAA second round loss.

So WVU went 5 seasons after the 2012-2013 disaster where the team wasn't atrocious. After the 2018-2019 disaster, WVU had back to back NCAA appearance worthy seasons. But if 2021-2022 becomes a disaster, it will be a bit concerning how often these disasters are occurring.
"IF 2021-2022 becomes a disaster?" What better definition of disaster do you need than 1-11 in their last 12 games? You must be smoking the same thing tHuggs is smoking and thinking that a 6 seed in the dance is a distinct possibility.