Hunter killed by Buffalo
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I’m in favor of animals getting theirs in terms of “trophy” hunters.
Pissed off Cape buffalo is likely a very scary way to go, probably a whole lot of screaming involved.
Note to self: be respectful. The guy had people who loved him and are devastated he’s gone.
Yeah, I have respect for hunters that eat what they kill. No respect for trophy hunters.
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I don't have any issue with guns or hunting, but I don't see the difference between those who eat what they kill and those who are hunting just for sport. It isn't like they have to hunt to eat, they could just go to the grocery store.
One is killing for an honorable reason (feeding your family) and the other is for a cheap thrill. I'm guessing you are in the minority with that opinion.
There are few things on the planet earth that I detest more than "trophy" hunters. Take a picture, macho man --- you don't need to kill an endangered species just to try to pretend that you're somehow super masculine (not referring to buffalos as endangered, but the guys who hang out just outside the protected areas of Yellowstone to shoot one as they migrate seasonally also disgust me)
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As a hunter, PSU grad who moved to Wyoming right after graduation in 1990 with $154 ...... I abhor sport hunting . Fill your freezer , shut the *** up and get on with it. Anything else is a penis measuring contest......
You can say that he is killing to feed his family and sure, his family is eating what he is killing, but in actuality he is choosing to go hunting because he enjoys hunting and the thrill that he gets from accomplishing his goal i.e. killing the animal that he was after. It would be easier to go to the store and buy food for his family. I doubt there are many hunters who hate hunting and hate killing animals but only do it because that is the only way that they can provide food for their families.
If there are hunters out there whose only option is to kill for food, then I would agree that there is a distinction between them and the others, but most hunters are hunting for fun and the food is just a bonus, which is why I don't really see a difference between them and those just hunting for fun.
Don't take my posts the wrong way. I have no problem with hunters whether they are after a trophy or after dinner.
Every hunter knows the risk….so they would be the last ones looking for sympathy. Just like any other high risk sport, if a person dies doing it, that’s on them and they accept the risk.
There is a risk that you take when you hunt. I am not celebrating the fact that someone was killed by an animal, but if you are going to take the risk, then you have to accept the consequences. Hunting accidents happen. If you don't want to be killed by an animal you are hunting, you could stay home and greatly reduce your risk.
So, there is no distinction between the two because they both enjoy doing it?
Hunting for the purpose of food acknowledges that the animal's life has value. Yes, these hunters enjoy what they do, but they respect the animal enough to make sure it's life was not taken frivolously. The person buying their meat at the store (yes, that's me) doesn't know where it came from or how it was raised. The hunter knows that the animal lived freely the way it was intended. There is a certain ethic here that I respect.
The sport hunter does it purely for vanity and has no respect for the animal. They take their trophy and leave the carcass behind. Taking a life should carry some moral weight. Something these guys clearly lack.
I’d bet that most of those trophy hunters never give it a serious thought, which kind of makes me hate the practice even more. (I love big cats in particular, which is why I’ve had Bengal cats for 29 years)
But risk is a tricky calculation. Although risk per minute may be lower as a road cyclist, I’d have to think the total risk of death is higher.
And attitude toward that risk is also funny. I
think fewer outsiders would say “too bad” about the fallen cyclist relative to the trophy hunter.
On the other hand, we, as a civilized society, generally put our killing in the hands of others (unless absolutely necessary). We don't run off and fight terrorists or the Russians on our own. We raise an army and they kill on our behalf. We don't execute criminals on our own - we have the State do that for us. Now, while food production isn't socialized in that manner, we still take the grotesqueness of killing out of our own hands and put it in the hands of larger, specific entities.
Now, if a bear happens upon my kitchen and I need to protect my loved ones, that responsibility for killing may fall back to me ... but, otherwise, we wash our hands of it.
Besides, if you're going to hunt to feel manly, do it without the least manly thing there is - a gun (or other projectile projecting device). Rassle it with your bare hands. Snap its neck. Be a man. Don't be a wuss using something that turns an ole fragile granny into the same level killer you are.
his picture looks like he killed a mountain lion. YOU CAN NOT EAT MOUNTAIN LION!!! Killing it is only for a trophy mount . Can eat buffalo and antelope and other vegetarian grazing animals. Dan Blocker who played Hoss on Bonanza famously said his kids could go hunting when animals could shoot back
You don't dare mess with an African Water Buffalo. They are mean and aggressive.
Your reply reminds me a lot of the wisdom and culture of the American Indian. He only killed the buffalo (who he revered) to provide the things he needed to survive, and he knew the value of conservation. Then along came the wealthy white man who enjoyed shooting as many buffalo as he could from trains and then let the carcass rot --- for "sport'. And yes, my favorite bumper sticker is "the more I'm around people, the more I love my dog".
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Somewhere a Senator sits in a leather chair
Behind a big wooden desk.
The caribou we killed means nothing to him.
He took his money just like all the rest.
Tick.
Tock.
The clock on the wall.
No wonder we're losing time.
Neil Young.
Iron Eyes Cody. Wasn’t even Native American. He was Italian American
as was Chief Jay Strongbow the professional wrestler. Joe Scarpa from New Jersey...........Iron Eyes Cody. Wasn’t even Native American. He was Italian American
I'm not in favor of trophy hunting, especially overseas. And I don't feel bad that hunter was gored.
I am a huge supporter of hunting in the US (NOT including the trophy hunting here). And I'm not a hunter myself. People hunt for many reasons, love of the outdoors, want to provide meat for family, comradery, and conservation. The reason I'm a fan of hunting here is because we have largely wiped out most apex predators in most regions and landscapes, with few exceptions. Hunting here is needed to manage wildlife populations and the sale of licenses and ammo fund conservation efforts. Hunters and fisherman are the greatest conservationists. even if that isn't a value to them, the fees they pay contribute to conservation efforts. That's why I occasionally buy a duck stamp even though I don't hunt them.
Also, even though I am opposed to foreign trophy hunting. It is not correct to state that hunters shoot the animal and let the carcass there (unless you are a poacher). Almost all, if not all of these planned trips usually have guides with them, and the meat is almost always donated to local villages or organizations that use the meat.
I am a huge supporter of hunting in the US (NOT including the trophy hunting here). And I'm not a hunter myself. People hunt for many reasons, love of the outdoors, want to provide meat for family, comradery, and conservation. The reason I'm a fan of hunting here is because we have largely wiped out most apex predators in most regions and landscapes, with few exceptions. Hunting here is needed to manage wildlife populations and the sale of licenses and ammo fund conservation efforts. Hunters and fisherman are the greatest conservationists. even if that isn't a value to them, the fees they pay contribute to conservation efforts. That's why I occasionally buy a duck stamp even though I don't hunt them.
Also, even though I am opposed to foreign trophy hunting. It is not correct to state that hunters shoot the animal and let the carcass there (unless you are a poacher). Almost all, if not all of these planned trips usually have guides with them, and the meat is almost always donated to local villages or organizations that use the meat.
Asher was fatally injured in a sudden and unprovoked attack by an unwounded buffalo he was tracking together with one of our professional hunters and one of our trackers,” Hans Vermaak, whose family runs the safari company, said in a statement.
UNPROVOKED ATTACK:
The buffalo was being “tracked” by 3 guys.
Oh funny, that was also my ex-girlfriend's nickname.