Hypocrite A-Holes

bornaneer

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Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have deleted tweets that promoted an upcoming Wednesday afternoon hearing on “kids in cages” after being called out for using Obama-era images of migrants in detention to highlight current conditions at the border.
“Last week, members of our committee visited a detention center at the southern border and discovered grotesque treatment of children,” the first tweet, posted Tuesday afternoon, said. “This week, we are examining the inhumane treatment of the children in these detention centers.”
The photos, taken by The Associated Press, were from 2014, during the Obama administration, but were presented by liberal activists as if they showed the effects of Trump’s immigration policy now. Villaraigosa, Favreau and some others deleted their tweets when the mistake was pointed out.
 

boomerwv

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he's trying to address it...

No he isnt. Family seperation was his brainchild and that is the reason for this happening at such a high number. During Obama years the only children put in these places were unaccompanied minors. The Trump policy of family seperation was put in place as a deterrent to immigrants, and has led to a massive increase in the number of children being held. And now DoJ is arguing that they sont need to provide them basic hygiene products like soap.

Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights.
 

Pospecteer

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No he isnt. Family seperation was his brainchild and that is the reason for this happening at such a high number. During Obama years the only children put in these places were unaccompanied minors. The Trump policy of family seperation was put in place as a deterrent to immigrants, and has led to a massive increase in the number of children being held. And now DoJ is arguing that they sont need to provide them basic hygiene products like soap.

Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights.

Agree to disagree. The kids have been turned into a political lever. Both sides are at fault.
 

moe

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Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have deleted tweets that promoted an upcoming Wednesday afternoon hearing on “kids in cages” after being called out for using Obama-era images of migrants in detention to highlight current conditions at the border.
“Last week, members of our committee visited a detention center at the southern border and discovered grotesque treatment of children,” the first tweet, posted Tuesday afternoon, said. “This week, we are examining the inhumane treatment of the children in these detention centers.”
The photos, taken by The Associated Press, were from 2014, during the Obama administration, but were presented by liberal activists as if they showed the effects of Trump’s immigration policy now. Villaraigosa, Favreau and some others deleted their tweets when the mistake was pointed out.
Sounds like they need some new photos of the appalling conditions, that shouldn't be a problem.
 

dave

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No he isnt. Family seperation was his brainchild and that is the reason for this happening at such a high number. During Obama years the only children put in these places were unaccompanied minors. The Trump policy of family seperation was put in place as a deterrent to immigrants, and has led to a massive increase in the number of children being held. And now DoJ is arguing that they sont need to provide them basic hygiene products like soap.

Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights.
This is a lie
 

Pospecteer

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tell us more, what actions are being taken?

nope. this is a political issue at this point. One side wants total immigration reform, the other wants open boarders. The kids suffer in the middle. pretty simple, take a bipartisan approach and fix it.
 

bornaneer

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No he isnt. Family seperation was his brainchild and that is the reason for this happening at such a high number. During Obama years the only children put in these places were unaccompanied minors.
Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights.
Outright lie........Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights. All the far left supposed fact check sites say no.....but others like Jeh Johnson who served as former President Barack Obama's Homeland Security secretary said families were indeed separated.
 

moe

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nope. this is a political issue at this point. One side wants total immigration reform, the other wants open boarders. The kids suffer in the middle. pretty simple, take a bipartisan approach and fix it.
So Trump is doing nothing about it, got it.
 

Keyser76

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So Trump is doing nothing about it, got it.
Lol, **** the rubes who can only repeat the catch phrases Fox dreams up to disguise their racism, "open borders" who calls for that? No one but Donnies lil doggies, why, you'd have to be dumb enough to think undocumented folks go and vote! Glad that is a shrinking demographic, they winning though! Owning the libtards and growing their base.
 

bornaneer

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So Trump is doing nothing about it, got it.
He's trying.....I guess you missed the news about the recent border appropriations bill that was just passed. You really need to get up to speed on these things.
 

bornaneer

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Lol, **** the rubes who can only repeat the catch phrases Fox dreams up to disguise their racism, "open borders" who calls for that? No one but Donnies lil doggies, why, you'd have to be dumb enough to think undocumented folks go and vote! Glad that is a shrinking demographic, they winning though! Owning the libtards and growing their base.
triggered again....BOOM.
 

moe

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He's trying.....I guess you missed the news about the recent border appropriations bill that was just passed. You really need to get up to speed on these things.
Great, I'll wait on Trump to quit lying about the conditions in those facilities and for him to do something about it. Since he's got the $$, no more excuses. He could change his punitive policies today.
 

Pospecteer

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So Trump is doing nothing about it, got it.

Not playing your game today. This is a mess caused by a both sides. The left has tried to turn the kids into a sledgehammer to beat Trump up with it. Its' a typical tactic used by the left. The fact that they have to use old photo's of kids who were being held while Obama was in office just makes it more typical.
 

Pospecteer

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Great, I'll wait on Trump to quit lying about the conditions in those facilities and for him to do something about it. Since he's got the $$, no more excuses. He could change his punitive policies today.

fact or opinion? I thought you only played in facts...
 

bornaneer

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Great, I'll wait on Trump to quit lying about the conditions in those facilities and for him to do something about it. Since he's got the $$, no more excuses. He could change his punitive policies today.
What punitive policies? Trump is for LEGAL immigration.......you seem to have a problem with that.
 

Pospecteer

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Lol, **** the rubes who can only repeat the catch phrases Fox dreams up to disguise their racism, "open borders" who calls for that? No one but Donnies lil doggies, why, you'd have to be dumb enough to think undocumented folks go and vote! Glad that is a shrinking demographic, they winning though! Owning the libtards and growing their base.

What is the lefts position on immigration? I am not sure they have a policy stance, only resist
 

bornaneer

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Great, so Trump is gonna end that horrible Obama practice right?
You expect him to fix all the problems in two and a half years when President Obama couldn't fix them in EIGHT years....laughable.
 

moe

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What is the lefts position on immigration? I am not sure they have a policy stance, only resist
Why do you ask others what could be easily googled? Not sure I've seen a more lazy person than yourself. Do some research!!
 

moe

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What punitive policies? Trump is for LEGAL immigration.......you seem to have a problem with that.
BO only used the "caged" facilities for 72 hours. They're not intended for long term captivity.
 

Pospecteer

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Why do you ask others what could be easily googled? Not sure I've seen a more lazy person than yourself. Do some research!!

 

moe

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fact or opinion? I thought you only played in facts...
My accusations of Trump lying about immigrant detention conditions would be fact. Here are some Trump lies on the subject.

Trump praised the border facilities and the agents who run them.

“I’ve seen some of those places, and they are run beautifully,” he said. “They’re clean. They’re good. They do a great job.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...utifully-run-detention-facilities/1660455001/
 

Pospecteer

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My accusations of Trump lying about immigrant detention conditions would be fact. Here are some Trump lies on the subject.

Trump praised the border facilities and the agents who run them.

“I’ve seen some of those places, and they are run beautifully,” he said. “They’re clean. They’re good. They do a great job.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...utifully-run-detention-facilities/1660455001/

That would be opinion not fact. If the facility is beyond capacity and resources are maxed, maybe they are dong the best they can with what they have to work with.

I once had a rep come in at 80% of goal, well below the 105% that the rest of the team delivered. I gave him an outstanding performance review because everyone else who had a similar market event came in at 40%. He made the most of a bad situation.
 

moe

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That would be opinion not fact. If the facility is beyond capacity and resources are maxed, maybe they are dong the best they can with what they have to work with.

I once had a rep come in at 80% of goal, well below the 105% that the rest of the team delivered. I gave him an outstanding performance review because everyone else who had a similar market event came in at 40%. He made the most of a bad situation.
"Doing the best you can" (Trump isn't) doesn't equal to "run beautifully" "they're clean, they're good." Maybe you haven't seen any images or footage from these facilities. Trump wanted this experience to be a deterrent to other immigrants headed north and he got his wish. Squalid conditions and family separations should do the trick.
 

Pospecteer

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"Doing the best you can" (Trump isn't) doesn't equal to "run beautifully" "they're clean, they're good." Maybe you haven't seen any images or footage from these facilities. Trump wanted this experience to be a deterrent to other immigrants headed north and he got his wish. Squalid conditions and family separations should do the trick.

opinion again...facts Moe, we only deal in facts. Think I need a position paper signed by Trump stating that abusing kids is a political stunt to keep people from trying to come to the USA.
 
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"Doing the best you can" (Trump isn't) doesn't equal to "run beautifully" "they're clean, they're good." Maybe you haven't seen any images or footage from these facilities. Trump wanted this experience to be a deterrent to other immigrants headed north and he got his wish. Squalid conditions and family separations should do the trick.

This guy is an idiot.
 

moe

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opinion again...facts Moe, we only deal in facts. Think I need a position paper signed by Trump stating that abusing kids is a political stunt to keep people from trying to come to the USA.
No need for that. As Trump states below the goal is make the detainees as miserable as possible and that's not "doing the best they can".

Trump says family separations deter illegal immigration
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tions-deter-illegal-immigration-idUSKCN1MO00C

Trump seemed to support that argument on Saturday.

“If they feel there will be separation, they don’t come,” he said of migrants during comments to reporters at the White House.
 

boomerwv

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Outright lie........Don't provide cover for this violation of human rights. All the far left supposed fact check sites say no.....but others like Jeh Johnson who served as former President Barack Obama's Homeland Security secretary said families were indeed separated.

Lies.

"In three years on my watch, we probably deported or returned or repatriated about a million people to enforce border security. One of the things I could not do is separate a child from his or her mother, or literally pull a mother from his or her arms," Johnson said on MSNBC last week.


The Obama policy was to temporarily detain unaccompanied minors, detain families together, and separate children only when there were specific, individual concerns with the adults with them. All of these people were allowed to remain in the country, and not in custody, while awaiting a asylum hearing.

It amazes me that you guys claim everything Obama did was terrible, but your first defense 9f Trump is always "Obama had the same policy."
 

Pospecteer

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No need for that. As Trump states below the goal is make the detainees as miserable as possible and that's not "doing the best they can".

Trump says family separations deter illegal immigration
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tions-deter-illegal-immigration-idUSKCN1MO00C

Trump seemed to support that argument on Saturday.

“If they feel there will be separation, they don’t come,” he said of migrants during comments to reporters at the White House.

Opinion again. You are stating that putting kids in cages were put in place to deter others from coming here. This article says Trump says separation "could" make them think about not coming. Not the same thing...

 

moe

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Opinion again. You are stating that putting kids in cages were put in place to deter others from coming here. This article says Trump says separation "could" make them think about not coming. Not the same thing...

Huh? You've gone full retard. I can't help you with reading comprehension. Trump's words are right there. They want family separation to be a deterrent.
 

WVUCOOPER

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It amazes me that you guys claim everything Obama did was terrible, but your first defense 9f Trump is always "Obama had the same policy."
Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Clinton too. The inferiority complex among Trumpers is off the charts. Sad!