I can't wait to see what the Gran/Hinshaw offense looks like at UK

[UKfan2151]

It is hard not to get excited when you look into the background of these coaches and see who they worked for and who influenced their styles. Both coaches have a tremendous pedigree.

Gran says he will draw on his experience at Auburn in the running game, which is very nice to hear since the Auburn run game he's referring to featured the dynamite duo of Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown who rushed for over 2,000 yards in Auburn's undefeated 2004 season. He also says he'll take a lot of what he learned at Florida State and incorporate that into his offense as well. Jimbo Fisher's offense has won national championships. That would seem to be a good system from which to draw inspiration. Gran also seems very flexible in his approach, being able to adapt his game to the strengths of his players.

Hinshaw is another interesting fella. He says he draws heavily on his experience with Jim Chaney (former Tennessee and current Georgia OC). Chaney of course fielded a very potent spread offense while at Purdue in the late 1990s under Joe Tiller, but then gravitated to a more pro-style approach under Lane Kiffin.

It will be interesting to see how all of the styles from the likes of Al Borges, Jimbo Fisher, Jim Chaney, Joe Tiller and Lane Kiffin are meshed together into one, with Gran and Hinshaw's own unique tweaks. But based on their coaching history and influences, it appears to a very solid foundation of experience in which to build an offense upon. I am as excited as I've ever been about the future of the UK offense. I am so glad we are moving away from the Air Raid influences and more toward a very multiple pro-style offense.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

It is hard not to get excited when you look into the background of these coaches and see who they worked for and who influenced their styles. Both coaches have a tremendous pedigree.

Gran says he will draw on his experience at Auburn in the running game, which is very nice to hear since the Auburn run game he's referring to featured the dynamite duo of Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown who rushed for over 2,000 yards in Auburn's undefeated 2004 season. He also says he'll take a lot of what he learned at Florida State and incorporate that into his offense as well. Jimbo Fisher's offense has won national championships. That would seem to be a good system from which to draw inspiration. Gran also seems very flexible in his approach, being able to adapt his game to the strengths of his players.

Hinshaw is another interesting fella. He says he draws heavily on his experience with Jim Chaney (former Tennessee and current Georgia OC). Chaney of course fielded a very potent spread offense while at Purdue in the late 1990s under Joe Tiller, but then gravitated to a more pro-style approach under Lane Kiffin.

It will be interesting to see how all of the styles from the likes of Al Borges, Jimbo Fisher, Jim Chaney, Joe Tiller and Lane Kiffin are meshed together into one, with Gran and Hinshaw's own unique tweaks. But based on their coaching history and influences, it appears to a very solid foundation of experience in which to build an offense upon. I am as excited as I've ever been about the future of the UK offense. I am so glad we are moving away from the Air Raid influences and more toward a very multiple pro-style offense.

Mr. Gran and Mr. Hinshaw will provide a high powered quick striking offense designed to move the footbsll and more often than not find the end zone.

 

[TJS4UK]

I think that Gran & Hinshaw will do very well @ UK. However, it may be 2017 before the biggest impact is felt.

 

[Rockford]

Gran/Hinshaw will hopefully be the best thing that happens to our defense next year.

Whenever I rad things about a coach and how successful he was at another school I cringe a little bit, as if that automatically will work here.

For instance, he had Cadillac Williams at Auburn. Guys like Cadillac are not working through the door in Lexington. For sure they are going to have to take what they have learned and then "improvise, adapt and overcome"

I sure hope they can.

 

[3kidsandme]

Gran/Hinshaw will hopefully be the best thing that happens to our defense next year.

Whenever I rad things about a coach and how successful he was at another school I cringe a little bit, as if that automatically will work here.

For instance, he had Cadillac Williams at Auburn. Guys like Cadillac are not working through the door in Lexington. For sure they are going to have to take what they have learned and then "improvise, adapt and overcome"

I sure hope they can.

Boom Williams CJ conrad both big time mismatches

 

[Rockford]

Boom Williams CJ conrad both big time mismatches

Should be, hope so. Can't wait to see how they use the weapons they have.

 

[Mr Schwump]

I hope they can find people who can make winning football plays. QBs who can hit open WRs then WRs who can make the catch when they do, OL that can sustain a block longer than one second, RBs who can stay on the field and not put the ball on the ground. And overall, not make totally stupid idiotic drive killing penalities. Make plays and win games.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

I hope they can find people who can make winning football plays. QBs who can hit open WRs then WRs who can make the catch when they do, OL that can sustain a block longer than one second, RBs who can stay on the field and not put the ball on the ground. And overall, not make totally stupid idiotic drive killing penalities. Make plays and win games.

Amen

 

[hmt5000]

My understanding is that it's a pro style spread offense? Plan on watching more UC stuff this spring but just don't have time now.

 

[3kidsandme]

I think the biggest difference we will see is organization. Dawson probably knows football. Gran knows how to get 45 players to do what he wants.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

I think the biggest difference we will see is organization. Dawson probably knows football. Gran knows how to get 45 players to do what he wants.

Agreed

 

[rye48]

It is hard not to get excited when you look into the background of these coaches and see who they worked for and who influenced their styles. Both coaches have a tremendous pedigree.

Gran says he will draw on his experience at Auburn in the running game, which is very nice to hear since the Auburn run game he's referring to featured the dynamite duo of Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown who rushed for over 2,000 yards in Auburn's undefeated 2004 season. He also says he'll take a lot of what he learned at Florida State and incorporate that into his offense as well. Jimbo Fisher's offense has won national championships. That would seem to be a good system from which to draw inspiration. Gran also seems very flexible in his approach, being able to adapt his game to the strengths of his players.

Hinshaw is another interesting fella. He says he draws heavily on his experience with Jim Chaney (former Tennessee and current Georgia OC). Chaney of course fielded a very potent spread offense while at Purdue in the late 1990s under Joe Tiller, but then gravitated to a more pro-style approach under Lane Kiffin.

It will be interesting to see how all of the styles from the likes of Al Borges, Jimbo Fisher, Jim Chaney, Joe Tiller and Lane Kiffin are meshed together into one, with Gran and Hinshaw's own unique tweaks. But based on their coaching history and influences, it appears to a very solid foundation of experience in which to build an offense upon. I am as excited as I've ever been about the future of the UK offense. I am so glad we are moving away from the Air Raid influences and more toward a very multiple pro-style offense.

Air Raid ,,,, What Air Raid ? I guess its like Tubby's "we are going to have a fast Paste offense this year

 

[TBCat]

I think the biggest difference we will see is organization. Dawson probably knows football. Gran knows how to get 45 players to do what he wants.

This. The system won't be as radically different as most people think. It will still be shotgun and spread formation. The biggest difference I am expecting is that we didn't always seem to know who to get the ball to or how to get them the ball in space. We didn't seem to have any plan for Conrad who might be our best player next year. We didn't seem to know what to do with 3 really good back so they would go through stretches of not touching the ball instead of using formations that use more than one back as a threat. I also don't believe Stoops trusted Dawson and interfered to the point of crippling his own offense.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

This. The system won't be as radically different as most people think. It will still be shotgun and spread formation. The biggest difference I am expecting is that we didn't always seem to know who to get the ball to or how to get them the ball in space. We didn't seem to have any plan for Conrad who might be our best player next year. We didn't seem to know what to do with 3 really good back so they would go through stretches of not touching the ball instead of using formations that use more than one back as a threat. I also don't believe Stoops trusted Dawson and interfered to the point of crippling his own offense.

Whatever occurred between Mark and Shannon is simply open to conjecture. Bottom line, coach Dawson knows offensive football. His MO simply didn't work out at UK. It happens.

 

[Beatle Bum]

This. The system won't be as radically different as most people think. It will still be shotgun and spread formation. The biggest difference I am expecting is that we didn't always seem to know who to get the ball to or how to get them the ball in space. We didn't seem to have any plan for Conrad who might be our best player next year. We didn't seem to know what to do with 3 really good back so they would go through stretches of not touching the ball instead of using formations that use more than one back as a threat. I also don't believe Stoops trusted Dawson and interfered to the point of crippling his own offense.

Does Gran use a short shotgun with the pistol?

 

[sluggercatfan]

It is hard not to get excited when you look into the background of these coaches and see who they worked for and who influenced their styles. Both coaches have a tremendous pedigree.

Gran says he will draw on his experience at Auburn in the running game, which is very nice to hear since the Auburn run game he's referring to featured the dynamite duo of Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown who rushed for over 2,000 yards in Auburn's undefeated 2004 season. He also says he'll take a lot of what he learned at Florida State and incorporate that into his offense as well. Jimbo Fisher's offense has won national championships. That would seem to be a good system from which to draw inspiration. Gran also seems very flexible in his approach, being able to adapt his game to the strengths of his players.

Hinshaw is another interesting fella. He says he draws heavily on his experience with Jim Chaney (former Tennessee and current Georgia OC). Chaney of course fielded a very potent spread offense while at Purdue in the late 1990s under Joe Tiller, but then gravitated to a more pro-style approach under Lane Kiffin.

It will be interesting to see how all of the styles from the likes of Al Borges, Jimbo Fisher, Jim Chaney, Joe Tiller and Lane Kiffin are meshed together into one, with Gran and Hinshaw's own unique tweaks. But based on their coaching history and influences, it appears to a very solid foundation of experience in which to build an offense upon. I am as excited as I've ever been about the future of the UK offense. I am so glad we are moving away from the Air Raid influences and more toward a very multiple pro-style offense.

I am glad you are excited...I hope MS has found someone that will run the type of offense that he wants because I don't think at this point even he knows what he wants...believe this or not, but yesterday I talked at length with someone that has a close relationship with Neil Brown and there were major issues with what NB wanted to do and what MS wanted and he is the head man so he won out.. this stuff cannot continue to happen

 

[uk_king_cat2]

It may be 2017 or 2035 or 3099 before this or that....WTF...Sh*t got old a long time ago.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

It may be 2017 or 2035 or 3099 before this or that....WTF...Sh*t got old a long time ago.

A post from beyond the edge of fan lunacy.

 

[TBCat]

Does Gran use a short shotgun with the pistol?

Don't recall seeing it. Easily their most common formation is with one back to either the left or right of the QB. There is a bit of a different style in that in most systems the back is either directly parallel to the QB or 1 yard back and to the right or left. Gran's looks like the back is about 2 to 3 yards back and to the left or right. I'm guessing they do that so they can run spread option even though Kiel didn't run that much.

The pass routes look to be a bit more vertical than Dawson's. They do however use a lot of the short hook and screen routes that we have seen a lot of the past couple years. It reminds me a lot of Joker's offense under Brooks last years.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

Don't recall seeing it. Easily their most common formation is with one back to either the left or right of the QB. There is a bit of a different style in that in most systems the back is either directly parallel to the QB or 1 yard back and to the right or left. Gran's looks like the back is about 2 to 3 yards back and to the left or right. I'm guessing they do that so they can run spread option even though Kiel didn't run that much.

The pass routes look to be a bit more vertical than Dawson's. They do however use a lot of the short hook and screen routes that we have seen a lot of the past couple years. It reminds me a lot of Joker's offense under Brooks last years.

Only this offense works under very successful coaches. Joker coached low level MAC talent into the ground to the point beyond embarrassed.

 

[RealCat41]

This ain't rocket science.

Be totally committed to getting a big 225 lb. running back, two would be great, and a great offensive line. If you do, you're in business much quicker in the SEC.

If you don't have those, but have great QB's and WR's, guess what, you're in trouble in the SEC.

You can't scheme your way to consistent success in the SEC.

In the Georgia game last year it was shocking how much more physically developed they were than us.

But, hey we have technology. We can hook electrodes up to a kid's head and see how ready he is for practice.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Well, we didn't have a great QB or OL.

 

[TBCat]

Only this offense works under very successful coaches. Joker coached low level MAC talent into the ground to the point beyond embarrassed.

I was referring to Joker's offense with Woodson and company.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

I was referring to Joker's offense with Woodson and company.

Sorry, my mistake misinterpreting your post.

 

[buckkiller]

I will go out on a limb and say Conrad will be a huge key to offense next year!

 

[joeky]

If they don't target Conrad 3 or4 times a game then that will show me what they know about coaching.

 

[FiveStarBBN]

Gran does run the Pistol often and his shotgun sets are a bit different sometimes. He will offset his back a couple feet to the left or right.