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ul will not make the playoffs they didn't beat anybody. But I'm for beating them however.
 

FickusDuckus

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ul will not make the playoffs they didn't beat anybody. But I'm for beating them however.

I initially thought the same thing but after looking at the #'s today Im not so sure. They went from a 20% chance to a 60% chance in a matter of hours. If Michigan wins out that moves Louisville to a 70% chance. To make matters worse that Wake Forest team is no pushover and thats where a reeling Clemson team is headed next week. Clemson loses that game and Louisville walks into the ACC title game vs (it doesnt matter as the other division sucks). At 1 am last night I was in agreement with you. 24 hours later after looking at the vegas odds and the prognosticators odds Im not so sure they arent already in.

The problem is in any comparison with other one loss teams they are going to have the Heisman in their pocket and like it or not that is a big draw. I dont think we can count on Houston either they are a walking infirmary playing at the end of a disappointing season where I believe they already know their coach is gone. This could be a route early.

We best be working on clock control and hope they keep their case of the fumbles rolling because we may very well be the last line of defense keeping them from making it. We need a marquee win so lets see the coaches scheme that win for us. Earn your keep fellas, winning this game will buy you a lot of leeway.
 

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Ky's hope is they play as well against ul this season as they did the previous two games. In each of the last two, it was Ky's game for the taking. Two years ago, we simply blew it. Last year, we win if Boom AND Kemp are not both injured during the game. Granted, our d could not stop them, but their d had not stopped us up to the point of the injury to Boom. With a 21 pt lead, we could have held them off. However, this is a better ul team.

ohiiiiiiiiiiiiiiio st will beat Michigan. Clemson will absolutely beat Wake and USC. ul will win out. This leaves Bama, osu, ul and Clemson in. The voters will feel obligated to put Clemson in as though ul is currently a better team, Clemson beat them head-to-head.

Bama vs Clemson
osu vs ul.
 

On-On-UK_rivals45415

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If U of LOL loses to Houston, they will be absolutely devastated.
One flush of the toilet send all their hopes and dreams down the tube.
They won't recover from the letdown = advantage Kentucky...
 
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Ky's hope is they play as well against ul this season as they did the previous two games. In each of the last two, it was Ky's game for the taking. Two years ago, we simply blew it. Last year, we win if Boom AND Kemp are not both injured during the game. Granted, our d could not stop them, but their d had not stopped us up to the point of the injury to Boom. With a 21 pt lead, we could have held them off. However, this is a better ul team.

ohiiiiiiiiiiiiiiio st will beat Michigan. Clemson will absolutely beat Wake and USC. ul will win out. This leaves Bama, osu, ul and Clemson in. The voters will feel obligated to put Clemson in as though ul is currently a better team, Clemson beat them head-to-head.

Bama vs Clemson
osu vs ul.

You do realize that if OSU beats Mich (and I agree they will), it will push Penn St into the B1G title game (assuming the Nittany Lions take care of business the rest of the way, as they should) against Wisconsin. By then, those two teams will both be top-10 teams, and winner will be 11-2 champ, and probably jumps 11-1 UL. OSU will be the non-champ getting in, and the B1G champ gets in with Clemson & Bama.

I still think UofL is a long shot with this committee, because they have shown already that they are weighing SOS very heavily, and the Cards just aren't going to make it on that metric.

The Cards will need metrics like W/L record, margin of victory, eyetest, game control, people polls, etc to carry more weight to get in, so that the committee would simply believe they are truly one of the four "best" teams. But the committee has already demonstrated SOS as being its biggest factor, and they have positioned certain teams (Penn St, Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Nebraska) in such a way that really hurts the ACC's chances of getting a 2nd team in. I fully expect UofL to stay behind Mich & Clem this week, and barely ahead of Wiscy as Penn St inches closer, setting up the inevitable "jump" of the B1G champ over them should OSU beat Mich and Penn St slide into the title game.

The SEC & B1G Champs are getting in, as will ACC Champ Clemson if they don't stumble any more. That 4th spot is up for grabs, but Louisville gets it "only" in a last-resort scenario. They need to worry about the trip to Houston on a short week.
 

Dore95

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The problem with the playoff committee valuing the "champion" of these conferences is the champion is sometimes a fiction because of the unbalanced nature of the divisions in the conference. In the old BCS system a 2 or 3 (or even more) loss team could win a conference championship game with an upset victory and be entitled to go to a BCS bowl. But that shouldn't necessarily happen when the prize is a chance to play in a playoff for a national title.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Ky's hope is they play as well against ul this season as they did the previous two games. In each of the last two, it was Ky's game for the taking. Two years ago, we simply blew it. Last year, we win if Boom AND Kemp are not both injured during the game. Granted, our d could not stop them, but their d had not stopped us up to the point of the injury to Boom. With a 21 pt lead, we could have held them off. However, this is a better ul team.

ohiiiiiiiiiiiiiiio st will beat Michigan. Clemson will absolutely beat Wake and USC. ul will win out. This leaves Bama, osu, ul and Clemson in. The voters will feel obligated to put Clemson in as though ul is currently a better team, Clemson beat them head-to-head.

Bama vs Clemson
osu vs ul.

tOSU is no guarantee even if they beat Michigan, may end up having to beat Wisconsin a 2nd time which won't be an easy task. Refs had to help them quite a bit first time they beat them. Same goes for Michigan, both beat Wisconsin by 7, so neither is a guarantee to beat them a 2nd time..

This past weekend was a big surprise to me, 3 of the top 4 teams losing really threw a monkey wrench into the playoffs. But one thing to consider, if Washington wins out and wins the Pac12 championship game, that gives them an extra game. I don't think they really want to leave a 1 loss P5 conference champion out of the playoffs over a team who doesn't even win their division.that doesn't have a real quality win.
 
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You do realize that if OSU beats Mich (and I agree they will), it will push Penn St into the B1G title game (assuming the Nittany Lions take care of business the rest of the way, as they should) against Wisconsin. By then, those two teams will both be top-10 teams, and winner will be 11-2 champ, and probably jumps 11-1 UL. OSU will be the non-champ getting in, and the B1G champ gets in with Clemson & Bama.

I still think UofL is a long shot with this committee, because they have shown already that they are weighing SOS very heavily, and the Cards just aren't going to make it on that metric.

The Cards will need metrics like W/L record, margin of victory, eyetest, game control, people polls, etc to carry more weight to get in, so that the committee would simply believe they are truly one of the four "best" teams. But the committee has already demonstrated SOS as being its biggest factor, and they have positioned certain teams (Penn St, Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Nebraska) in such a way that really hurts the ACC's chances of getting a 2nd team in. I fully expect UofL to stay behind Mich & Clem this week, and barely ahead of Wiscy as Penn St inches closer, setting up the inevitable "jump" of the B1G champ over them should OSU beat Mich and Penn St slide into the title game.

The SEC & B1G Champs are getting in, as will ACC Champ Clemson if they don't stumble any more. That 4th spot is up for grabs, but Louisville gets it "only" in a last-resort scenario. They need to worry about the trip to Houston on a short week.
That's what I've been saying since Saturday night, but it's a minority opinion on this board. Just like on the basketball board, it's hard to get much of an objective opinion about our closest rival. Many posters fall into one of two camps - either they hate Louisville so much they won't acknowledge anything good about them, no matter how obvious; or they so fear Louisville success, they naturally assume the worst (they'll win the national title in basketball, they'll make the playoff in football, whatever). All of that is most especially true for posters that live in Louisville.

So, yeah, agreed, as of right now Louisville is kind of a "long shot". However - big however - a lot of football left to be played. There will be more losses by highly ranked teams. It will be hard for UofL to make hay on that, because they won't get much respect from their final wins, and because (unless Clemson loses to Wake) they will be done and sitting at home during the week leading up to the ACC title game, which will be a time of crazy hype. Out of sight, out of mind kind of thing.

I still think the best and maybe only route for Louisville is a Clemson loss.....but we'll see.......
 
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You do realize that if OSU beats Mich (and I agree they will), it will push Penn St into the B1G title game (assuming the Nittany Lions take care of business the rest of the way, as they should) against Wisconsin. By then, those two teams will both be top-10 teams, and winner will be 11-2 champ, and probably jumps 11-1 UL. OSU will be the non-champ getting in, and the B1G champ gets in with Clemson & Bama.

I still think UofL is a long shot with this committee, because they have shown already that they are weighing SOS very heavily, and the Cards just aren't going to make it on that metric.

The Cards will need metrics like W/L record, margin of victory, eyetest, game control, people polls, etc to carry more weight to get in, so that the committee would simply believe they are truly one of the four "best" teams. But the committee has already demonstrated SOS as being its biggest factor, and they have positioned certain teams (Penn St, Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Nebraska) in such a way that really hurts the ACC's chances of getting a 2nd team in. I fully expect UofL to stay behind Mich & Clem this week, and barely ahead of Wiscy as Penn St inches closer, setting up the inevitable "jump" of the B1G champ over them should OSU beat Mich and Penn St slide into the title game.

The SEC & B1G Champs are getting in, as will ACC Champ Clemson if they don't stumble any more. That 4th spot is up for grabs, but Louisville gets it "only" in a last-resort scenario. They need to worry about the trip to Houston on a short week.

Damn. It gets worse.

Now not only do I have to root for OSU but also the scuzzball coach at PSU.
 

sluggercatfan

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If U of LOL loses to Houston, they will be absolutely devastated.
One flush of the toilet send all their hopes and dreams down the tube.
They won't recover from the letdown = advantage Kentucky...
Unless LJ. Is out there is no UK advantage
 

jauk11

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You do realize that if OSU beats Mich (and I agree they will), it will push Penn St into the B1G title game (assuming the Nittany Lions take care of business the rest of the way, as they should) against Wisconsin. By then, those two teams will both be top-10 teams, and winner will be 11-2 champ, and probably jumps 11-1 UL. OSU will be the non-champ getting in, and the B1G champ gets in with Clemson & Bama.

I still think UofL is a long shot with this committee, because they have shown already that they are weighing SOS very heavily, and the Cards just aren't going to make it on that metric.

The Cards will need metrics like W/L record, margin of victory, eyetest, game control, people polls, etc to carry more weight to get in, so that the committee would simply believe they are truly one of the four "best" teams. But the committee has already demonstrated SOS as being its biggest factor, and they have positioned certain teams (Penn St, Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Nebraska) in such a way that really hurts the ACC's chances of getting a 2nd team in. I fully expect UofL to stay behind Mich & Clem this week, and barely ahead of Wiscy as Penn St inches closer, setting up the inevitable "jump" of the B1G champ over them should OSU beat Mich and Penn St slide into the title game.

The SEC & B1G Champs are getting in, as will ACC Champ Clemson if they don't stumble any more. That 4th spot is up for grabs, but Louisville gets it "only" in a last-resort scenario. They need to worry about the trip to Houston on a short week.

It gets worse.

Now not only do I have to root for OSU but I also have to root for the scuzzball coach at PSU.
 

billoliver40

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Louisville will turn the scoreboard into a pinball machine against Houston and the Cats. Dobbs looked like a Heismann hopeful against the Cat D.
LJ will look like Superman.
 

John Henry

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I doubt we beat UL as long as Petrino is there. You can say the reverse in basketball as long as Cal is here.

Our defense or lack of one will guarantee a loss to UL.
 
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You do realize that if OSU beats Mich (and I agree they will), it will push Penn St into the B1G title game (assuming the Nittany Lions take care of business the rest of the way, as they should) against Wisconsin. By then, those two teams will both be top-10 teams, and winner will be 11-2 champ, and probably jumps 11-1 UL. OSU will be the non-champ getting in, and the B1G champ gets in with Clemson & Bama.

I still think UofL is a long shot with this committee, because they have shown already that they are weighing SOS very heavily, and the Cards just aren't going to make it on that metric.

The Cards will need metrics like W/L record, margin of victory, eyetest, game control, people polls, etc to carry more weight to get in, so that the committee would simply believe they are truly one of the four "best" teams. But the committee has already demonstrated SOS as being its biggest factor, and they have positioned certain teams (Penn St, Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Nebraska) in such a way that really hurts the ACC's chances of getting a 2nd team in. I fully expect UofL to stay behind Mich & Clem this week, and barely ahead of Wiscy as Penn St inches closer, setting up the inevitable "jump" of the B1G champ over them should OSU beat Mich and Penn St slide into the title game.

The SEC & B1G Champs are getting in, as will ACC Champ Clemson if they don't stumble any more. That 4th spot is up for grabs, but Louisville gets it "only" in a last-resort scenario. They need to worry about the trip to Houston on a short week.

Louisville Schedule is pitiful 1 team with a winning record FSU
 
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blubo

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If U of LOL loses to Houston, they will be absolutely devastated.
One flush of the toilet send all their hopes and dreams down the tube.
They won't recover from the letdown = advantage Kentucky...

The game is at houston, maybe their biggest game ever. cougar players and fans will be jacked and hopefully the team will come out and play their best game of the year. a little home cookin' might come into play.
 

ajgcardman

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Greg Ward Jr. went down with a shoulder injury Saturday.

Ward injured his shoulder in September, and has been playing through it for most of the year. It apparently flared up on him again late in the 2nd qtr Saturday against Tulane. He went to the sidelines (probably to rest it for UL) with a commanding 28-10 lead, having thrown for nearly 200 yards in 1st half. He returned to the game early in the 4th qtr after his replacement was injured. After returning, he was only 2-6 for 2 yards, as Houston ran out the clock, holding on 30-18.

He'll likely start the game "fine," but will likely do so with limited, if any, reps preparing for the game. And no telling how long, if at all, it takes for the shoulder to get inflamed again. He's had some great games this year despite the shoulder issue, but if inflammation returns, he's toast...and so is Houston.
 

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As I understand it, if Clemson beats Wake Forest this Saturday, they have the tiebreaker to the ACC championship game and the BCS committee won't give a BCS berth to uavel or any other team that isn't a conference champion. The only hope that uavel has is that WF beats Clemson. Pretty unlikely.
 

CatsMeow69

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That's what I like to hear. Crush their dreams, Coug's. Alot of the UL roaches will disappear over here as well.
like to see the trash have their dreams crushed like Petrino's face was crushed by the volleyball players boyfriend at Arkansas..:chairshot::chairshot:
 
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One Game at a Time for Louisville....Houston for what all of Louisville expect which is a battle....but whatever the outcome still very much on course for a NYD Six Bowl or absolute worst case Citrus Bowl
 

red rage 2016

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As I understand it, if Clemson beats Wake Forest this Saturday, they have the tiebreaker to the ACC championship game and the BCS committee won't give a BCS berth to uavel or any other team that isn't a conference champion. The only hope that uavel has is that WF beats Clemson. Pretty unlikely.
First the BCS died 3 years ago, second there is a good chance that a non-conference champ makes it into the playoff most likely OSU at the moment. A lot will just depend on how the next couple of weeks playout.
 
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