I pledge allegiance to the Flag

funKYcat75

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Wonder why we don’t just pledge allegiance to the United States instead of the flag?
 

joeyrupption

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Of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all.
Didn’t you abandon this country to go be an expat in Asia-Pacific somewhere?
 

funKYcat75

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Basic civics. At least it used to be.
I understand that it is the case and it’s history. Just wondering the original reasoning for choosing to pledge to the flag instead of directly to the nation. It’s all semantics, of course, but those of you trying to turn this into an argument like you do everything else on this board can just chill.
 
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mrhotdice

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Didn’t you abandon this country to go be an expat in Asia-Pacific somewhere?
Let’s see. I spent 8 years in Vietnam Nam fighting for that flag, and worked 25 years at Nellis AFB in Las Vegas. If you are talking about living with my wife in the country she was born, Taiwan then I guess in some perverted way I was an expat. But guess what, I’m back in Kentucky were most people love America, the Flag, and are proud to be a Kentuckian and an American.
 
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Pledging allegiance to a flag is stupid. I did once swear to defend The Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I did that proudly! And will pledge allegiance to that document again, any time, any where.
 

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Let’s see. I spent 8 years in Vietnam Nam fighting for that flag, and worked 25 years at Nellis AFB in Las Vegas. If you are talking about living with my wife in the country she was born, Taiwan then I guess in some perverted way I was an expat. But guess what, I’m back in Kentucky were most people love America, the Flag, and are proud to be a Kentuckian and an American.
Your country is being ripped to shreds and there is nothing any of us can or are going to do about it
 

J_Dee

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The pledge was written by Francis Bellamy, a socialist, so that the magazine he worked for could sell flags to U.S. schools as a subscription premium.

God bless 'Murca.
 

warrior-cat

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Pledging allegiance to a flag is stupid. I did once swear to defend The Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I did that proudly! And will pledge allegiance to that document again, any time, any where.
Flag vs Document? Eh.
 

warrior-cat

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My country, ' tis of thee,
Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountainside let freedom ring!
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free, thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills;
My heart with rapture thrills, like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees sweet freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.
Our fathers' God, to thee,
Author of liberty, to thee we sing;
Long may our land be bright
With freedom's holy light;
Protect us by thy might, great God, our King.
 

joeyrupption

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Let’s see. I spent 8 years in Vietnam Nam fighting for that flag, and worked 25 years at Nellis AFB in Las Vegas. If you are talking about living with my wife in the country she was born, Taiwan then I guess in some perverted way I was an expat. But guess what, I’m back in Kentucky were most people love America, the Flag, and are proud to be a Kentuckian and an American.
What’s perverted about being an expat? You were a person who lived outside of their native country (definition of “expat”) and **** on it from afar for years (while comparing it to how great expat life in Taiwan was) IIRC.

Thanks for your service. Glad you saw the light and came back.
 
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IdaCat

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I pledge allegiance to Earth! It was here long, long before any country.
Fine, you can rely on Earth for your constitutional rights and privileges. Earth can also pay your social security.

Some of you people don't know how special the United States of America is and how GD lucky you are to be here. Half the population are trying to destroy the most perfect union ever established. Crazy *** loony tunes.
 

812scottj

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I just read a blurb that the author was a communist, and he wanted to use the phrase “and equality for all” but others wouldn’t support it due to women and African Americans not getting consideration
 

chroix

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Whoever wrote it is whatever they were. The United States is a great country that can be and should be improved every chance we get. I think the original line was to Form a More Perfect Union. Sounds like a plan to me.
 
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BlueVelvetFog

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Fine, you can rely on Earth for your constitutional rights and privileges. Earth can also pay your social security.

Some of you people don't know how special the United States of America is and how GD lucky you are to be here. Half the population are trying to destroy the most perfect union ever established. Crazy *** loony tunes.
Yep. Being born in the US is like winning the cosmic lottery
 

420grover

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I do, and I also still like and respect you.
Same. I have no issue at all with anyone's religious views. Just don't try to cram it down my throat. I spent several years researching lots of religions in the search for my truth and came to the conclusion that I don't know what the truth is, neither does anyone else, and I don't need a book, written by human beings with a political agenda, to tell me how to be a good person.
 

KopiKat

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The pledge was written by Francis Bellamy, a socialist, so that the magazine he worked for could sell flags to U.S. schools as a subscription premium.

God bless 'Murca.
And that there tells you plenty about the public school system's long standing companionship with socialists
 

KopiKat

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I just read a blurb that the author was a communist, and he wanted to use the phrase “and equality for all” but others wouldn’t support it due to women and African Americans not getting consideration
Reasonable then and reasonable now . . . women and minorities do not have equality with white men not because they are denied it, but because they are protected from it. Anyone who does not understand this fact has either (1) not been an active participant in modern workplaces, (2) too young and stupid to understand facts, (3) a woman or (4) other.