I still think the Big 12 got lucky this year that OU was the team to win it with 1 loss

[Got Rings?]

Rings,

Why do you think the SEC is the best fit for OU? Personally I think the B10 is a better fit for OU.

The SEC fits our football culture better than any other conference and still would play in the state of Texas which is extremely important for our recruiting. The B10 would mean no games in the state of Texas would absolutely kill our recruiting I think. If OU were in the SEC can you imagine how our recruiting would go through the roof? It would be off the charts and ESPN would be a continual promotional tv network for us. Can you imagine the hype we would get with ESPN all the time. It would be up there with Alabama. A Blueblood program in the SEC like Oklahoma. I think we would be cherry picking the best players in the country and for sure Texas. B10 means playing up north in the cold weather a lot and snow etc. etc. Texas kids don't want to play in that conference, the parents wouldn't be able to see them play as often being so far away etc.

 

[Raysor]

I don't care for that logic. OU beat the three top teams in the Big 12 & all of these wins was against back up QBs.

Say what? I was saying that Michigan State won despite playing their backups. So it's a bigger loss for tOSU. My point was valid. Ohio State had no quality wins this year until they beat the Wolverines at the end of their season.

My view generally, is that if North Carolina wins, they should be at four. And I think that OU vs Iowa would be a great advantage for OU. But I think with a month off, that Michigan State might be the best team in the country if they beat Iowa. Cook is a very solid quarterback, and they have wins over Michigan, Ohio State and Oregon. They were lucky against Michigan, but Cook wasn't close to 100%. I know they won on a fluke, but the flip side is that when they had to make a play, they made maybe the biggest play of the year.

D'Antonio is a heck of a coach. OU matched up against them in the semi's would be a tough tough challenge.

 

[wsmonroe]

Blue blood program does not mean as much as who you beat and who you played.

Any 1 loss big xii champion with a win at Knoxville would be in the final 4.

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[SoonerTulsan]

Say what? I was saying that Michigan State won despite playing their backups. So it's a bigger loss for tOSU. My point was valid. Ohio State had no quality wins this year until they beat the Wolverines at the end of their season.

My view generally, is that if North Carolina wins, they should be at four. And I think that OU vs Iowa would be a great advantage for OU. But I think with a month off, that Michigan State might be the best team in the country if they beat Iowa. Cook is a very solid quarterback, and they have wins over Michigan, Ohio State and Oregon. They were lucky against Michigan, but Cook wasn't close to 100%. I know they won on a fluke, but the flip side is that when they had to make a play, they made maybe the biggest play of the year.

D'Antonio is a heck of a coach. OU matched up against them in the semi's would be a tough tough challenge.

Yeah, it's not too smart to complain about the QBs OU played against, your point was valid. No shock there. I'd argue NC doesn't deserve #4 if they win IF Stanford wins...but that's debateable.

 

[Raysor]

I dislike Stanford pretty intensely, so I'd lobby against them even if I thought they deserved it. But I don't.

I'd absolutely argue that if Michigan State loses to Iowa, that there is no way that Ohio State should get in. MSU beat them in Columbus. If Stanford is worthy of consideration with two losses, then surely Michigan State would be.

Michigan State beat Oregon. The Ducks beat Stanford. So I believe that even with a loss, Michigan State, who beat both Ohio State and the team that beat Stanford, ought to go over either.

 

[NoleGa_rivals170091]

I don't care for that logic. OU beat the three top teams in the Big 12 & all of these wins was against back up QBs.

And looked impressive improving each week doing it...

 

[Blair Sanderson_rivals]

I dislike Stanford pretty intensely, so I'd lobby against them even if I thought they deserved it. But I don't.

I'd absolutely argue that if Michigan State loses to Iowa, that there is no way that Ohio State should get in. MSU beat them in Columbus. If Stanford is worthy of consideration with two losses, then surely Michigan State would be.

Michigan State beat Oregon. The Ducks beat Stanford. So I believe that even with a loss, Michigan State, who beat both Ohio State and the team that beat Stanford, ought to go over either.

There isn't any way possible that the commitee will place a loser of this weekend's games in the Top 4. If MSU loses to Iowa, they're done. OU squeeked in losing their Champ game once, but those days are gone. The reason I've even mentioned tOSU as a possible contender that slides into the Top 4 is that per the committee's latest poll, they are showing a lot of love to the Big Ten schools. They have the Big 10 (as a group) ranked higher than the Pac and the Big 12. Of course having tOSU slide in would require someone to lose, most likely Clemson.

 

[Chasescott66]

I feel like Briles is a decent coach, but he lucked out a bit with RG3. That set the table for him to reel in some top notch talent, and then he exploited a fragile time in Big XII history when both OU and Texas were subpar. Now that we're back, he's going to struggle a bit more with top talent wanting to go to a crap town and take mandatory religious classes and chapel.
Flash in the pan is what I'm predicting and hoping.

Briles did get lucky, I agree with you and add their new stadium will become less full with time. Since the Baylor game, I really disliked them, including their coach.

 

[YourCrimsonNightmare]

I don't think there's any outcome that can keep OU out of the playoff. The Big Ten championship game loser will have a recent loss, won't be a conference champion, and won't have a season with nearly the number of quality wins that the Sooners have.

Ohio State has won exactly one game against a top-25 team this year: last week against Michigan. The week before, when playing at home, Ohio State gained 5 first downs and 130 yards of total offense while being totally dominated by the Spartans. No one would pick the Buckeyes ahead of the Sooners.

If Alabama loses to Florida, the SEC will be out of the playoff. If UNC beats Clemson, the Tar Heels have a chance to get in the playoff, but that's when compared to Ohio State and Stanford. It doesn't impact the Sooners chances.

Stanford still has a puncher's chance of getting into the playoff, but that's based on winning their conference championship game combined with a loss by Bama or Clemson, or both. If the Cardinal get in, it will be as the 4th seed.

It's pretty unlikely that the playoff field will include any teams that aren't conference champions unless both the Tide and Tigers lose on Saturday, and the chances of that happening are very slim.

None of that really matters, though. The Sooners' case has been made, and that book is closed. Nobody can really move them from the top 4, and I don't think the Big Ten champion will have done enough to move OU down from 3rd to 4th.

Sooners are in, period. Root for Clemson to win tomorrow, because that all but guarantees that the Sooners will play in the Cotton Bowl on New Year's Eve.

YCN, Plaino (or anyone)

What do we want to happen this week while we're relaxing ? I've heard theories that IF iowa wins it could pave the way for tosu to ace us out depending on what the others do. (I'm not sure I buy that, and won't be pulling for the hawx)

 

[phantommarine]

OU and Texas not playing every year won't make networks happy and won't make fans like me happy. That is an epic rivalry in college football. Don't want to lose that tradition for Cincy and usf.

And with your divisions OU would only play 1 conference game a year in state of Texas.

I think we should add teams like USF and Cincinnati, which would expand our television footprint and recruiting bases and stick with the Big XII.
Set up two divisions, A- UT, TTech, BU, TCU, and the Kansas schools; B- OU, OsU, WV, ISU, Cincinnati, USF -- when things fall right, it would be OU and UT in the championship game!

 

[Raysor]

There isn't any way possible that the commitee will place a loser of this weekend's games in the Top 4. If MSU loses to Iowa, they're done. OU squeeked in losing their Champ game once, but those days are gone. The reason I've even mentioned tOSU as a possible contender that slides into the Top 4 is that per the committee's latest poll, they are showing a lot of love to the Big Ten schools. They have the Big 10 (as a group) ranked higher than the Pac and the Big 12. Of course having tOSU slide in would require someone to lose, most likely Clemson.

I think that depends on the closeness of the game. Still no way that tOSU should go over Mich St. I agree with you that there is an awful lot of love going out for the Big Ten. I've been told that Barry Alvarez and Tom Osburn or the ipso facto leaders of the group. That wouldn't seem to be a good thing.

 

[NoleGa_rivals170091]

The King should give "Dr. Tom" a friendly phone call reminding him that he kicked his *** then & will do it again if he and baldy pull any shenanigans...