I think Grunk deserves his own thread....

rigi19040

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Wrong. PSU traded Grunk for a 3-year starter (who had transfer interest from LSU) AND ISU’s backup, who was as highly recruited as Grunk was and has an extra year of eligibility. As much as I liked Grunk, that’s a great deal.

Might have had both. Therefore iSU traded grunk for the ISU backup.
 
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G3624

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The worst decision Grunkenmeyer could have made is running to Franklin's side. He saw what the coach did to the other QBs that played at PSU. Namely Hack and Allar, he completely f!!!!d them up.
 
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BobPSU92

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The worst decision Grunkenmeyer could have made is running to Franklin's side. He saw what the coach did to the other QBs that played at PSU. Namely Hack and Allar, he completely f!!!!d them up.

O’Brien‘s got this.
 
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Tgar

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Wrong. PSU traded Grunk for a 3-year starter that weighs 190 pounds dripping wet and stands barely six feet tall with two damaged shoulders (who had transfer interest from LSU) AND ISU’s backup, who was as highly recruited as Grunk was and has an extra year of eligibility. As much as I liked Grunk, that’s a great deal though Grunk did show what leadership looks like in Happy Valley.
FIFY
 
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WPB_lion

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I don’t know why everybody would hate Franklin Penn State fired him. He didn’t leave on his own accord. He did a lot of great things here and believe me he would still be here if you were allowed.
You cannot be serious.

Franklin's departure from PSU was not handled with class by Franklin and he burned bridges on his way out. As could be seen from his demeanor after the UCLA and Northwestern loses, he checked out after the loss to Oregon and the team followed his lead. He refused to take responsibility for his historically terrible coaching job that justified his firing and acted like a victim as he walked out the door with $49 million still being guaranteed from the University. If you want to see a classy way to leave an Organization without burning bridges, see Mike Tomlin.
 
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Big_O

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You cannot be serious.

Franklin's departure from PSU was not handled with class by Franklin and he burned bridges on his way out. As could be seen from his demeanor after the UCLA and Northwestern loses, he checked out after the loss to Oregon and the team followed his lead. He refused to take responsibility for the historically terrible coaching job that did this year that justified his firing and acted like a victim as he walked out the door with $49 million still being guaranteed from the University. If you want to see a classy way to leave an Organization without burning bridges, see Mike Tomlin.
Mike Tomlin likely is looking to get away from the coaching grind and maybe vying for a front office job. He was smart to do what he did.
 

EricLAllen

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Campbell may not have wanted to deal with Grunk still being too much a part of the last regime. I won't ever know exactly why he didn't want to keep Grunk around. We're going to have to learn to deal with it and be glad Penn State didn't have to settle for who the hell knows if Campbell would not have taken this job.
 

Navion N8865H

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Campbell may not have wanted to deal with Grunk still being too much a part of the last regime. I won't ever know exactly why he didn't want to keep Grunk around. We're going to have to learn to deal with it and be glad Penn State didn't have to settle for who the hell knows if Campbell would not have taken this job.
Campbell wanted Grunk to stay, period. Grunk wanted starter NIL money and essentially to be promised QB1. The new staff was not willing to tie up a lot of this year's NIL money in just two players; Becht and Grunk
 

LMTLION

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Campbell wanted Grunk to stay, period. Grunk wanted starter NIL money and essentially to be promised QB1. The new staff was not willing to tie up a lot of this year's NIL money in just two players; Becht and Grunk
This is true from different sources. Campbell did want Grunk and they had a preexisting relationship in high school recruiting, but he did not want Grunk as his 2026 starter. Campbell needs to create immediate momentum in 2026 with an easier schedule to help build for the future. The best way to do that is to bring in his own QB that already knows his system. Grunk is a drop back passer, and Franklin has a very poor record with drop backs. Hopefully Franklin will modify his approach with Grunk to not ruin him as he did Allar.
 

EricLAllen

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Oh well. He did a nice job, but I'm not exactly sitting here thinking they ran off Johnny Unitas. It's Campbell's show now. Let's sit back and enjoy it.
 

CDLionFL

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What is remarkable is that he experienced Franklin first hand. He witnessed the destruction of Allar. He witnessed how Franklin's assistant turned the offense AND PASSING GAME around. Why would he trust the guy? It's all on tape for the love of Pete.
I think it was after the multiple OT loss to Illinois, I was on here saying that Grunk should re-think his recruiting situation because after what we witnessed in that game, why would any dropback QB ever come to PSU with Franklin as the coach. So not only did Grunk come here and deal with it for 1 1/2 seasons but he apparently liked it so much that he followed Franklin to VT. I think what we saw out of Grunk in the final 4 games is his true talent and potential and it'll be interesting to track what happens when he's back under Franklin's coaching.
 
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psu0408

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Not sure why this is surprising. Franklin overspent NIL on backup receivers, TE's and walk-ons, so it's not crazy to think he made Grunk and offer he can't refuse. The biggest risk is if he doesn't develop at VT or doesn't win the starting job. He then went from being the likely PSU starter in 2027 to likely transferring again to a lower tier P4 school.
 

LMTLION

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Not sure why this is surprising. Franklin overspent NIL on backup receivers, TE's and walk-ons, so it's not crazy to think he made Grunk and offer he can't refuse. The biggest risk is if he doesn't develop at VT or doesn't win the starting job. He then went from being the likely PSU starter in 2027 to likely transferring again to a lower tier P4 school.
That is the risk. Sometimes we think that the portal completely favors the players, but the reality is different for many. Some players certainly get enriched portaling to new teams and some find new life at lower level schools, but many players go to worse situations and others transfer so often they never get developed. Sometimes it happens in high school. Our former developmental QB recruit Kritza went to several high schools and came to PSU so raw that they had to work on the absolute basics with him in practice. And then he transfers again. Guys like that will never get developed.
 
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bbrown

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That is the risk. Sometimes we think that the portal completely favors the players, but the reality is different for many. Some players certainly get enriched portaling to new teams and some find new life at lower level schools, but many players go to worse situations and others transfer so often they never get developed. Sometimes it happens in high school. Our former developmental QB recruit Kritza went to several high schools and came to PSU so raw that they had to work on the absolute basics with him in practice. And then he transfers again. Guys like that will never get developed.
+1. I saw the other day that the former Auburn QB, TJ Finley is now on his 7th transfer.
Do we even ask about credits transferring anymore? :ROFLMAO:
 

Big_O

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That is the risk. Sometimes we think that the portal completely favors the players, but the reality is different for many. Some players certainly get enriched portaling to new teams and some find new life at lower level schools, but many players go to worse situations and others transfer so often they never get developed. Sometimes it happens in high school. Our former developmental QB recruit Kritza went to several high schools and came to PSU so raw that they had to work on the absolute basics with him in practice. And then he transfers again. Guys like that will never get developed.
That’s because he is a legend in his own mind.
 

Auxgym

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What is remarkable is that he experienced Franklin first hand. He witnessed the destruction of Allar. He witnessed how Franklin's assistant turned the offense AND PASSING GAME around. Why would he trust the guy? It's all on tape for the love of Pete.
Maybe he just wants to ride the bench some more and get paid for it?? Think Union Job…. The American Way!!!
 
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rigi19040

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Not sure why this is surprising. Franklin overspent NIL on backup receivers, TE's and walk-ons, so it's not crazy to think he made Grunk and offer he can't refuse. The biggest risk is if he doesn't develop at VT or doesn't win the starting job. He then went from being the likely PSU starter in 2027 to likely transferring again to a lower tier P4 school.


Iowa State is saying the same thing about all their backups who PSU paid double to transfer.
 

Nitt1300

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Good luck to Grunk but probably not the ideal landing spot for him. As has been noted, VA Tech brought in another QB via the portal so it’s not like he’s guaranteed the job anyway
At least he'll get the chance to compete for it- he wasn't going to get that at PSU
 

Nittering Nabob

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+1. I saw the other day that the former Auburn QB, TJ Finley is now on his 7th transfer.
Do we even ask about credits transferring anymore? :ROFLMAO:
Given how admissions offices deny equivalent credits for transferring students, I suspect TJ is an academic freshman